[Tweeters] Fwd: Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?

[Mark Kluth]

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> From: Daniel Estabrooks <daniel.estabrooks at warner.edu>

> Date: August 14, 2022 at 6:41:38 PM PDT

> To: Mark Kluth <bt.gull at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?

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> My first question is, why does anyone care what the bird's "official" status with USFWS is? I don't see how it makes any practical difference.

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> I want to see more definitive evidence before I believe that the Ivory-bill is still with us, but the behavior of some of the people who are trying to debunk it is asinine and largely ego-driven. I made a comment on Facebook a few months ago that I think some people really want the bird to be extinct just to make a point, and I got blasted by a guy for whom it apparently touched a nerve - probably because he's one of them!

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>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 4:42 PM Mark Kluth <bt.gull at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Amusing posts.

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>> Sent from my iPhone

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>>> From: Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10 at gmail.com>

>>> Date: August 13, 2022 at 11:12:45 PM PDT

>>> To: Tom Benedict <benedict.t at comcast.net>

>>> Cc: tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

>>> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?

>>> 

>>> The guy suggesting it ”could be anything” and that “there are more convincing photos of a Sasquatch” really should be ignored based on those inane comments alone. 

>>> 

>>> The video of a bird flying to and landing on tree that was shot from above is very intriguing.  The large amount of white on the upper wings certainly rules out Wood Duck.  If I had to bet, I would think the video is of a Red-headed Woodpecker though.  I assume that the size of the bird in comparison to the limb it landed on could be definitive.

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>>> Jeff Gilligan

>>> Willapa Bay

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>>>> On Aug 13, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Tom Benedict <benedict.t at comcast.net> wrote:

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>>>> Evidently there are still folks out there looking for the Ivory-billed Woodpecker. 

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>>>> https://apnews.com/article/science-animals-wildlife-north-america-birds-de73ecb49a997b96201d8614d38f6f49

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>>>> Millions of sharp and in focus photos of every other bird species on earth, but all these IBWO “evidence” photos are grainy and low res. 

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>>>> I guess there’s a fast approaching deadline for official declaration from the US Fish and Wildlife Service to declare IBWO extinct, so these reports are showing up. We can probably expect a few more.

>>>> 

>>>> Tom Benedict

>>>> Seahurst, WA

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