<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><b>From:</b> Daniel Estabrooks <daniel.estabrooks@warner.edu><br><b>Date:</b> August 14, 2022 at 6:41:38 PM PDT<br><b>To:</b> Mark Kluth <bt.gull@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [Tweeters] Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?</b><br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">My first question is, why does anyone care what the bird's "official" status with USFWS is? I don't see how it makes any practical difference.<div><br></div><div>I want to see more definitive evidence before I believe that the Ivory-bill is still with us, but the behavior of some of the people who are trying to debunk it is asinine and largely ego-driven. 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target="_blank">jeffgilligan10@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:</b> August 13, 2022 at 11:12:45 PM PDT<br><b>To:</b> Tom Benedict <<a href="mailto:benedict.t@comcast.net" target="_blank">benedict.t@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [Tweeters] Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?</b><br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">The guy suggesting it ”could be anything” and that “there are more convincing photos of a Sasquatch” really should be ignored based on those inane comments alone. <div><br></div><div>The video of a bird flying to and landing on tree that was shot from above is very intriguing. The large amount of white on the upper wings certainly rules out Wood Duck. If I had to bet, I would think the video is of a Red-headed Woodpecker though. I assume that the size of the bird in comparison to the limb it landed on could be definitive.<div><br></div><div>Jeff Gilligan</div><div>Willapa Bay</div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 13, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Tom Benedict <<a href="mailto:benedict.t@comcast.net" target="_blank">benedict.t@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><h3 style="box-sizing:inherit;font-feature-settings:"liga";margin:0px;line-height:23px;font-variant-ligatures:normal"><font color="#231f20"><span style="font-size:14px;font-weight:normal">Evidently there are still folks out there looking for the Ivory-billed Woodpecker. </span></font></h3><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"><a href="https://apnews.com/article/science-animals-wildlife-north-america-birds-de73ecb49a997b96201d8614d38f6f49" target="_blank">https://apnews.com/article/science-animals-wildlife-north-america-birds-de73ecb49a997b96201d8614d38f6f49</a></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">Millions of sharp and in focus photos of every other bird species on earth, but all these IBWO “evidence” photos are grainy and low res. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">I guess there’s a fast approaching deadline for official declaration from the US Fish and Wildlife Service to declare IBWO extinct, so these reports are showing up. We can probably expect a few more.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">Tom Benedict</span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">Seahurst, WA</span></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Tweeters mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">Tweeters@u.washington.edu</a><br><a href="http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters" target="_blank">http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Tweeters mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">Tweeters@u.washington.edu</a></span><br><span><a href="http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters" target="_blank">http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>
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