<div dir="auto">Thank you Sally! Yes, I go back to Green-backed Heron, but could not remember the name. Despite checking in old field guides and even the remake of Peterson’s original field guide showed Green Heron!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hans<br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><b style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(51,51,51)">Hans Feddern</span></b><br style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA</span><br style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(0,0,102);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:thefedderns@gmail.com" target="_blank">thefedderns@gmail.com</a></span><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 3:04 PM Sally Walters via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Green heron’s naming woes… I'm old enough to remember the green-backed heron’s name change. Given the brief small amount of green …. Woe with me! Perhaps the gray green-backed rufous necked heron. Multi colored heron?<br>
Sally M. Walters<br>
Sacramento CA<br>
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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 12:37:12 -0700<br>
From: Jim Betz via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
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Larry,<br>
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? We, the people in the field, don't get to choose the names for the<br>
birds.? It's best to just<br>
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accept whatever name they have rather than lobby for a change ... ????<br>
At least the name<br>
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of the Green Heron hasn't changed like the Marsh Hawk and some others<br>
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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:16:18 -0700<br>
From: Elaine Anderson via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
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I didn?t get the sense that Larry was lobbying for a change, but that he<br>
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I never did understand where ?green heron? came from!<br>
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> Larry,<br>
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> We, the people in the field, don't get to choose the names for the<br>
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> accept whatever name they have rather than lobby for a change ... ???<br>
> At least the name<br>
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> of the Green Heron hasn't changed like the Marsh Hawk and some others<br>
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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:38:52 -0700<br>
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Today (8.17.25<<a href="http://17.25" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://17.25</a>>) at the mouth of the Cedar River in Renton:<br>
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Least Sandpiper - a few<br>
Western Sandpiper - a few juveniles & 1 adult<br>
Semipalmated Sandpiper - 2 juv <a href="https://flic.kr/p/2ro64eE" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://flic.kr/p/2ro64eE</a> & <a href="https://flic.kr/p/2ro5uVALong-billed" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://flic.kr/p/2ro5uVA<br>
Long-billed</a> Dowitcher - 1 adult<br>
Solitary Sandpiper - 1 juv <a href="https://flic.kr/p/2ro4i3M" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://flic.kr/p/2ro4i3M</a> & <a href="https://flic.kr/p/2rnZ3aQ" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://flic.kr/p/2rnZ3aQ</a><br>
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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:43:29 -0700<br>
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Hi Folks - Sorry to trouble you. We?re trying to figure out the missing messages problem.<br>
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MAKE PLAIN TEXT = ENABLED<br>
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Rob Faucett<br>
Seattle, WA<br>
(206) 619-5569<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:45:55 -0700<br>
From: Rob Faucett via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
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Last one.<br>
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Rob Faucett<br>
+1(206) 619-5569<br>
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> Rob Faucett<br>
> Seattle, WA<br>
> (206) 619-5569<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 18:47:42 -0700<br>
From: Carol Riddell via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
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Subject: [Tweeters] Edmonds Roundup - July 2025<br>
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Hi Tweeters,<br>
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With July additions we have reached 170 species for our Edmonds 2025 list. In taxonomic order, the new species are:<br>
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Vaux?s Swift (code 3), 1 at Edmonds marsh, 7-3-2025.<br>
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Semipalmated Sandpiper (code 3), 2 at Edmonds marsh, 7-1-2025 (critical field marks described).<br>
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Leach?s Storm-Petrel (code 5), 1 at waterfront, 7-16-2025 (critical field marks described).<br>
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American White Pelican (code 4), approximately 35 flying over Edmonds marsh, 7-5-2025 (ID photos).<br>
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Of interest: A Green Heron (code 3) was at Edmonds marsh throughout the month, with two seen together on 7-10-2025.<br>
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Declined: Short-billed Dowitcher (code 4), Lesser Yellowlegs (code 4), Baird?s Sandpiper (code 3), Bank Swallow (code 4), Northern Rough-winged Swallow (code 3). These were just ticks on eBird checklists with no documentation. They could be data entry errors, misidentifications, or correct identifications. Without some documentation, we cannot add these species to the year list.<br>
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As always, I appreciate it when birders get in touch with me to share sightings, photos, or recordings. It helps us build our collective year list. If you would like a copy of our 2025 city checklist, with 283 species, please request it from checklistedmonds at gmail dot com. The 2025 checklist, with sightings through July, is in the bird information box at the Olympic Beach Visitor Station at the base of the public pier.<br>
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Good birding,<br>
<br>
Carol Riddell<br>
Edmonds, WA<br>
cariddellwa at gmail dot com<br>
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Abundance codes: (1) Common, (2) Uncommon, (3) Harder to find, usually seen annually, (4) Rare, 5+ records, (5) Fewer than 5 records<br>
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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 20:46:50 -0700<br>
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Subject: [Tweeters] Blackberries<br>
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The discussion about Himalayan blackberries sufficiently addressed, I?ll just add that I was taught by the natural resources staff for the Forest Steward program on Mercer Island the following method of removing blackberries:<br>
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Cut the canes starting from the top into 8? to 12? pieces. Let them fall where they may. When you?re down to about 8? left, dig out the roots. Keep doing that over the area of work. Rake up the pieces and root wads into a pile and let them compost on site.<br>
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I find this method prevents them from attaching to my sleeves, jacket, pants, hat, and what all. Likewise prevents lots of cursing. Lots of fun!<br>
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Carolyn Boatsman<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 20:57:43 -0700<br>
From: dick via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
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Subject: [Tweeters] Off-Topic: Backroads from Ellensburg to Wenatchee?<br>
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Does anyone know if there is a summertime route from Ellensburg to Wenatchee through the Colockum Area? Maybe accessing Mission Ridge from the South?ThanksDick, BellinghamSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone<br>
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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 22:24:06 -0700<br>
From: Larry Schwitters via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
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Subject: [Tweeters] Vaux's Migration begins<br>
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Every night since the rain hit Wagner and Selleck have been sheltering low thousands of swifts.<br>
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You don?t want to go to Selleck. You might want to go to Monroe.<br>
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Larry Schwitters Issaquah<br>
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