<div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">I think that generalization and polarization are natural and not shameful. Working to get over generalization and polarization, as well as speaking out about and trying to fix what we see as wrongdoing are appropriate responses by me.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"><br></font></div><font size="4">I don't have to get back to enjoying birds and nature<span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">;</span> I keep enjoying birds and nature even while I pick up trash and call out bad behavior and seek solutions to problems.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"> I enjoy working while I whistle.</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"></span><br clear="all"></font></div><div><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></span></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Bird seed bags are great for collecting trash at places where I bird watch. They're quite tough -- don't shred with broken glass and sharp pieces of metal.</div><br></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">Good Birding,</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">Kevin Lucas</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">Yakima County, WA</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="6"><a href="https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/">https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/</a></font><font size="4"></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"><br></font></div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><b><font size="6"><span style="color:rgb(95,99,104);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif">Qui tacet consentire</span><span style="color:rgb(77,81,86);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif"> videtur</span></font></b></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 7:36 AM Dennis Paulson via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Ann, I couldn’t agree more. Shame on us for every generalization that leads to polarization. We do it all too well. Let’s go back to enjoying birds and nature, which we all have in common, no matter how we approach it.<div><br><div>Dennis<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 21, 2025, at 8:35 PM, Ann Kramer <<a href="mailto:lens4birds@gmail.com" target="_blank">lens4birds@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I think it was ducks, Dennis. I'd heard it last year, I think. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">As I read this thread, I read negative comments about hunters and bird listers, and I'm surprised bird photographers aren't in the mix. We are often high on the list of people's disdain. Including my own, at times, when I observe how photographers pursue and flush birds and disregard signs of their discomfort. As a bird photographer who spends a lot of time with birders, the ones I know are respectful and ethical. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">It just seems like it's all too easy for all of us to get into the place where we generalize any bad experiences we've had with one or two representatives of any of these groups to the whole group, which is obviously a mistake and prevents us from seeing people individually and not lumping them all together. It's something I also have to remind myself of regularly. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><div><b style="color:rgb(106,168,79);font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif">Ann</b></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Ann Pultz Kramer</div><div>Stanwood, WA</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#6aa84f">"<font size="1"><b>Use what talents you possess; the wood would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best</b></font></font><font size="1"><b>."</b></font></div><div><font color="#6aa84f" size="1"><b>Henry Van Dyke</b></font></div><div><p><br></p></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 1:12 PM Dennis Paulson <<a href="mailto:dennispaulson@comcast.net" target="_blank">dennispaulson@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks, Ann. There may have been fish parts but we saw several fly up with ducks. I suppose “baiting” would be hard to prove, as maybe some hunters just toss the ducks they don’t want out in a field. Although these were well away from the road, so it seems that they were placed their intentionally. We can just hope that none of the ducks had avian flu, as eating sick waterfowl is one way it is known to spread to raptors.<div><br></div><div>Dennis Paulson</div><div>Seattle<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 21, 2025, at 12:57 PM, Ann Kramer via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Someone has left large amounts of bait in the past in that area in years past. I think it was fish parts. I heard about it so I wouldn't be surprised if that is what's happening again. </div></div><div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" color="#6aa84f"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" color="#6aa84f"><b>Ann</b></font></div><div><br></div><div>Ann Pultz Kramer</div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"></span>S<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">tanwood, WA</span></div><div><br></div><div><font color="#6aa84f">"<font size="1"><b>Use what talents you possess; the wood would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best</b></font></font><font size="1"><b>."</b></font></div><div><font color="#6aa84f" size="1"><b>Henry Van Dyke</b></font></div><div><p><br></p></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 12:51 PM Tom Benedict via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">If this is intentional baiting, would that be a violation of the Bad and Golden Eagle Protection Act?<br>
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Tom Benedict<br>
Seahurst, WA<br>
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> On Jan 21, 2025, at 12:40, Dennis Paulson via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hello tweets,<br>
> <br>
> A few days ago we drove through the Samish Flats and again saw a huge concentration of Bald Eagles, north of the Bayview-Edison Road and not far west from the East 90. Many were on the ground, but they were interacting constantly in the air, chasing one another for what looked like carcasses or pieces therefrom, and one we got a good look at was a duck. They certainly didn’t catch all those ducks and carry them to a common feeding area, so we wondered what was going on.<br>
> <br>
> It was absolutely spectacular for photography, eclipsing the Short-eared Owls that were also flying in the bright sun at 11 am. The usual number of cars and photogaphers were there.<br>
> <br>
> Are people putting out carcasses in those fields to attact eagles? Does anyone know?<br>
> <br>
> Dennis Paulson<br>
> Seattle<br>
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