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<div dir="ltr">Roger,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm not 100% sure what your intention was when you sent this response to <span style="text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Aadu's message. However, it is an operant example
of being tone deaf. At this point, several people on this listserv who oppose the AOS name changes have stated they don't understand why it's important (because they're only looking at it through the lens of their own personal experience). <span></span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Despite it not <span>being <span style="text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Aadu's
responsibility to explain it for (or justify it to) others, they have taken the time to do so, along with naming the impact it has had on them. Replying in this way is not helpful. Regardless of what your intention was when you clicked send, it reads as dismissive
of <span style="text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Aadu's message, while at the <span>same time driving their point home even more. </span></span><span></span></span></span></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 27, 2024 2:22 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tweeters] Inclusion in Birding
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You can please all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot please all the people all the time.<br>
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Sounds to me like there's going to be a lot of displeased people along with a ton of people who don't really care for what ever reason. So just how many people are going to be really pleased by this exercise in inclusivity and respectfulness? At least until
they have to run out and buy new birding books.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2024-06-26 2:46 p.m., Aadu Prakash via Tweeters wrote:</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><span style="font-size: inherit;">Hi Tweeters community,</span></div>
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<div style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Longtime lurker, but felt the need to write in. I'm a 31 y.o Indian American who has been birding for 25 years. Throughout my life, I've met many wonderful people who have welcomed me into the world of
birding/ornithology. But on the flipside, I have often felt like the odd one out in many of the communities I participated in.</div>
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<div style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">It's disappointing that the discourse around changing eponymous bird names is being shut down. Almost like we're being told to "shut up and bird". I applaud folks like Steve and Carmelo who bring up reasons
why this is an important initiative, and how it can lead to more diversity and inclusion in the birding world.</div>
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<div style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Many underrepresented groups are faced with the task of "terraforming" the communities they engage with. They have to put in serious work to make these communities "habitable" for them. But through censorship
and lack of support from leadership, they often burnout and disappear into the background (or leave the group altogether). </div>
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<div style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">From Carmelo's Op-Ed:</div>
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"Human beings at the AOS have committed their time, money, and resources toward this endeavor for the last several years. They’ve clearly stated an intention to actively involve the public in the process of selecting new bird names, as well as including a diverse
representation of individuals with expertise in the social sciences, communications, ornithology, and taxonomy." </blockquote>
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<div style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> These people are actively trying to "terraform" our birding community in a way that is inclusive and respectful to us all. They should be supported, not shot down. Otherwise things will largely stay
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<div style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I plan on unsubscribing from Tweeters and hope that the work is put into making this a more inclusive community that can attract AND retain folks from underrepresented communities.</div>
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<div style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Best,</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Aadithya (Aadu) Prakash</div>
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