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<p class="MsoNormal">I am completely in agreement with Steve’s post, and the request to stop discussing it in this venue. If you can’t see that even having an argument about this issue is alienating to so many I’m really not sure what to say. Inclusiveness
in enjoying the wild world around us should take precedence over one’s own opinion about something not actually relevant to appreciating and studying birds. In your own mind you’re welcome to call them whatever you wish, whether old or new names or those you’ve
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Teresa Michelsen<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hoodsport, WA<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tweeters <tweeters-bounces@mailman11.u.washington.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Lucas via Tweeters<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Hampton <stevechampton@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> TWEETERS tweeters <tweeters@u.washington.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tweeters] Inappropriate posts - from the thread Amerigo Vespucci<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Thank you very much.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Kevin Lucas -- A white male not yet over the 65 year old threshold, in Yakima County, WA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#5F6368">Qui tacet consentire</span></b><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#4D5156"> videtur</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 6:37 AM Steve Hampton via Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#073763">In the absence of any intervention by a Tweeters administrator, I will reply. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#073763">These posts against proposed bird name changes - usually with incorrect information and speculation regarding scope, costs and benefits, and other aspects - are inappropriate here and do harm
to the birding community and the use of Tweeters as representative of the birding community. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#073763">Without trying to convince anyone why bird names (and organization names) matter, I'll point out that they seem to matter to a lot of people. Regardless of the rationale, there are three basic
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1) The demographic breakdown on this issue is stark. Most younger people and people of color support the changes. Nearly all of the opposition comes from white people over 65. This tells me, from a diversity, equity, and inclusion perspective, there is a "there"
there. We should pay attention to why this is. <br>
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2) Due to historical biases and discrimination in opportunities and privileges, the former group are the exact same demographics that are under-represented in birding; and the latter are far more likely to be today's field trip leaders, esteemed ornithologists,
and conservation organization leaders. This is evident and much has been written about it. <br>
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3) Having the latter group publicly dismiss the former group (on any issue) is both insensitive and reckless when it comes to the future of birding. Using Tweeters as a safe space for the latter group to openly gripe and plan opposition is "gatekeeping" - public
actions that preserve the status quo and drive certain newcomers away. Intentions don't matter here; impacts do. This is why so many younger people and people of color do not participate in Tweeters, certain other social media groups, many birding organizations,
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I'm dubious anyone will learn from this post, or be inspired to learn more. And I'm dubious about my continued participation in Tweeters. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#073763">I do wish everyone good birding, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:#073763">Steve Hampton</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Port Townsend, WA (<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">qatáy</span>)<o:p></o:p></p>
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