<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I have a vague recollection from some source that American Robins before white settlement were probably fairly restricted to sub-alpine and recently burned habitats. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jeff Gilligan</div><div class="">Willapa Bay<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 18, 2023, at 2:45 PM, J Christian Kessler <<a href="mailto:1northraven@gmail.com" class="">1northraven@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">I remember a robin at the top of a Ponderosa Pine at about 11,000 feet on a steep slope in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains just singing its lungs out - nothing even close to level ground or or any grass within miles. I lived in Virginia then and was kind of stunned, I had to climb about 500 feet up-slope from where I first was to get a level look at the bird to make sure it was a Robin and not some western bird I didn't know at the time. <br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">in my experience these days in northwest WA, the "American Lawn Thrush" loves mountain slopes, especially gravel roads, in the summer months.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">Chris Kessler</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">Seattle<br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 2:17 PM Jerry Tangren <<a href="mailto:kloshewoods@outlook.com" class="">kloshewoods@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="">I believe they were a mountain meadow species. When we began putting meadows (aka lawns) in our yard, they moved right in. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Lorna and I were in Nome, Alaska the third week of June. One of the common species of the willow scrub on the Seward Peninsula is the Robin.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">—Lorna & Jerry Tangren</div>
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So when I think of a robin - it is in the yard working the lawn for<br class="">
worms and insects. This has been true for my entire life (more than 70).<br class="">
True enough that I've started to consider seeing a robin where there<br class="">
wasn't some form of lawn near as 'exceptional'. A "lawn" would be any<br class="">
area where it is mowed several times a year - not necessarily the<br class="">
manicured lawns so many of us have.<br class="">
We used to see a lot of robins in our yard. We converted our lawn to<br class="">
all native plants (no grass). Now we still have the occasional robin<br class="">
but no where near as many as when we had a lawn.<br class="">
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So my question for this group is "where did the robins feed - before<br class="">
humans started planting lawns?".<br class="">
- Jim in Burlington<br class="">
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