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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I question the motivation of the people behind the drive to officially declare the Ivory-billed WP extinct. If the bird is officially extinct, will that open up more land for development, logging, etc.? Just wondering.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Lori Markoff <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tweeters <tweeters-bounces@mailman11.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Kluth<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 14, 2022 7:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> tweeters@u.washington.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tweeters] Fwd: Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b>From:</b> Daniel Estabrooks <<a href="mailto:daniel.estabrooks@warner.edu">daniel.estabrooks@warner.edu</a>><br><b>Date:</b> August 14, 2022 at 6:41:38 PM PDT<br><b>To:</b> Mark Kluth <<a href="mailto:bt.gull@gmail.com">bt.gull@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [Tweeters] Do videos show ivory-billed woodpecker, or is it extinct?</b><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>My first question is, why does anyone care what the bird's "official" status with USFWS is? I don't see how it makes any practical difference.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I want to see more definitive evidence before I believe that the Ivory-bill is still with us, but the behavior of some of the people who are trying to debunk it is asinine and largely ego-driven. I made a comment on Facebook a few months ago that I think some people really want the bird to be extinct just to make a point, and I got blasted by a guy for whom it apparently touched a nerve - probably because he's one of them!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style='margin-top:6.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=470 style='width:352.5pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=10 valign=top style='width:7.5pt;padding:0in 7.5pt 0in 0in'></td><td valign=top style='border:none;border-right:solid #45668E 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'></td><td valign=top style='padding:0in 7.5pt 0in 7.5pt;font-stretch:normal;text-align:initial'><div style='margin-bottom:3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002B5C'>Daniel Estabrooks</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2F3B4C'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002B5C'>Warner University<br>Assistant Professor of Biological Sciences</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2F3B4C'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=470 style='width:352.5pt;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px'><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p style='margin:0in'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#073763'>O:</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#073763'> 863.638.7506 | <b>M (preferred):</b> 865.719.9212</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#646464'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p style='margin:0in'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#073763'>E: </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#073763'><a href="mailto:daniel.estabrooks@warner.edu" target="_blank">daniel.estabrooks@warner.edu</a> | </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#646464'><a href="http://warner.edu/" target="_blank">warner.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><div style='margin-top:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#646464;display:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px'><tr><td style='padding:0in 3.75pt 0in 0in'></td><td style='padding:0in 3.75pt 0in 0in'></td></tr></table></div></td></tr></table></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>