<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Well, I did it again, misidentifying a common bird as a Little Stint. I was in a hotel in Wakulla Springs, Florida, tired after driving all day (and having driven 4100+ miles since we left Seattle on 4/13), and I should have looked at the photo more carefully. It looks quite like a Little Stint, but the shorter wings and primary projection make it easy to see that it is a Least Sandpiper.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My apologies for so uncritically agreeing, Dan! But I suppose it’s better to get less critical in your old age rather than more critical . . .</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dennis Paulson</div><div class="">Seattle<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 26, 2022, at 11:02 AM, Robert O'Brien <<a href="mailto:baro@pdx.edu" class="">baro@pdx.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">PS My Peep Photo was taken in Fall about 1985, scanned here from a slide.</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:41 AM Robert O'Brien <<a href="mailto:baro@pdx.edu" class="">baro@pdx.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">You learn something every day! Decades ago photographed a small peep that I tried for decades to make into a Little Stint. Photos taken near Astoria.<div class="">Noone could say anything for sure. Eventually I accepted it as a very petite male western. Hence my 'Most Wanted' for this stint. But, for old times sake I just Googled the comparison and came up with this 'cool' ID feature.</div><div class=""><a href="https://blog.aba.org/2017/11/open-mic-a-new-field-mark-for-differentiating-stints-and-peeps.html" target="_blank" class="">https://blog.aba.org/2017/11/open-mic-a-new-field-mark-for-differentiating-stints-and-peeps.html</a><br class=""></div><div class="">Now, in one of the Stint photos you can barely make out the 'Gape Notch' (I'd never heard this term before). A more horizontal photo would have been better, but I believe it is visible as it is. </div><div class="">Then click to the next eBird photo (Western Sandpiper) with the little arrow to the right. No Notch on the Western.</div><div class="">I'm hardly an expert as I just discovered this. I would have helped a lot with my long ago photo that is here:</div><div class=""><a href="http://www2.rdrop.com/users/green/Stint%3f/LIST02.JPG" target="_blank" class="">http://www2.rdrop.com/users/green/Stint%3f/LIST02.JPG</a><br class=""></div><div class="">Note No Notch.</div><div class="">Love to hear from Dennis Paulson on this whole subject. I'm sure these details were not known when he wrote his famous book so long ago.</div><div class="">Bob OBrien Portland</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:29 AM Robert O'Brien <<a href="mailto:baro@pdx.edu" target="_blank" class="">baro@pdx.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi Steve-</div>?The bird to the left of the Stint in the eBird photos is a Least Sandpiper.? Note the yellow legs.Feet especially<div class="">Bob OBrien </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:23 AM Steve Hampton <<a href="mailto:stevechampton@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">stevechampton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Bob, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Thanks for engaging me. I'm a bit confused about what you said about leg color in the photos, which you said appeared yellow in the Least photo and dark in the stint photos. But there are no photos of Least Sandpiper; there are just two photos of the presumed stint. To me, the legs have a hint of olive, which means they are probably yellow, just in shadow or with mud. My understanding is that Little Stint legs should be jet black, blacker than Western. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Regarding plumage, I pulled out Veit and Jonsson (1987) from <i class="">American Birds, </i>which has excellent illustrations and discussion. The tertials and scapulars on both species (in alternate plumage) can be nearly identical. To me, the extensive streaking on the breast sides and the tail protruding beyond the wings suggest Least Sandpiper, as does the overall structure.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">Again, the pics are here: <a href="https://ebird.org/checklist/S107940245" target="_blank" class="">https://ebird.org/checklist/S107940245</a> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">I'm hoping others will weigh in. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">thanks, </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:37 PM Robert O'Brien <<a href="mailto:baro@pdx.edu" target="_blank" class="">baro@pdx.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">One giveaway is the legs. Least Sandpiper has yellow legs, visible in the photo. The Little Stint clearly has dark legs also visible in the excellent photos.<div class="">I'd worry more about Western Sandpiper, which is the next excellent photo. There are obvious differences there but the legs don't help.<br class=""><div class="">Bob OBrien Portland</div><div class="">PS Can anyone predict what time of day (tidewise?) would be best for chasing tomorrow, Tuesday? I guess it was seen around 9-10AM Saturday. Little Stint is my Most Wanted Stint.................</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:42 PM Steve Hampton <<a href="mailto:stevechampton@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">stevechampton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">I've only seen Little Stint a few times, so I'm interested in more discussion of this bird. The bill shape and overall posture seem identical to Least Sandpiper to me. Plumage-wise, is the strong streaking on the sides of the breast possible on Little Stint? I'm interested in an explanation why this is not a bright adult Least Sandpiper and what the key marks are.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)">thanks, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(7,55,99)"> </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 6:58 PM dan&erika <<a href="mailto:danerika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danerika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large">Hi Tweets--</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large">First let me apologize for the delay in my posting this record. Yesterday, 25 April 2022, I photographed a bird at the Billy Frank Jr National Wildlife Refuge. It was on the south side of the very beginning of the estuary boardwalk. Two birds are in the image, one clearly a Least Sandpiper. It slowly occurred to me that the other, brighter bird is a Little Stint. I shared the photo with Dennis Paulson, who concurs with my identification. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large">Two photos are included in the following eBird checklist: </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large"><a href="https://ebird.org/checklist/S107940245" target="_blank" class="">https://ebird.org/checklist/S107940245</a>.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><font face="times new roman, serif" size="4" class="">Note apparent black legs, white-tipped wing coverts, and rusty breast, and note the black streaks against a pale chestnut wash on the sides of the breast and the chestnut color of the tertials.</font><div class=""><font face="times new roman, serif" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="times new roman, serif" size="4" class=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large">A refuge volunteer informed us that the shorebirds had been absent on Saturday the 24th, but that a large fallout of shorebirds occurred on Saturday night. I took the photos in eBird only because the birds presented a pretty composition.</span><br class=""></font><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large">Dan</div><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dan or Erika Tallman<br class="">Olympia, Washington <br class=""><a href="mailto:danerika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danerika@gmail.com</a><br class=""><br class="">".... the best shod travel with wet feet...Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes ....”—H. D. Thoreau</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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