<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Humans with cats should build Catios - outdoor enclosures that allow cats to go outside, bask, and watch birds without endangering themselves, birds, or humans. The Portland Audubon society leads an annual tour of Catios in Portland backyards!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Example!</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=catio&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjWwrTNpP3fAhXEGTQIHdYDAso4ChD8BQgPKAI&biw=2522&bih=1227" class="">https://www.google.com/search?q=catio&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjWwrTNpP3fAhXEGTQIHdYDAso4ChD8BQgPKAI&biw=2522&bih=1227</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jill</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 20, 2019, at 1:15 PM, Diane Yorgason-Quinn <<a href="mailto:avosetta@hotmail.com" class="">avosetta@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class="">Here's a rebuttal to this collar, which has actually been around for a number of years.  Even if it does cut down (not stop) bird murders, there's still the other problems of cats outdoors including spreading disease to each other, other critters, AND humans. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.10000birds.com/can-birds-be-safe-if-only.htm" id="LPNoLP757255" class="">http://www.10000birds.com/can-birds-be-safe-if-only.htm</a><br class=""></div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class="">More details to be found in the excellent book by Peter Marra, director of the Smithsonian Migratory Bird Center,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class=""><i class="">CAT WARS</i></u>: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://press.princeton.edu/titles/10809.html" id="LPNoLP218816" class="">https://press.princeton.edu/titles/10809.html</a><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class="">So people, quit trying to justify having your cats outside.  You are the boss of your cat and can eventually train it to like the indoor life.  I've done it, and you can, too.<br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class="">Diane Yorgason-Quinn</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class="">Gig Harbor, WA</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class=""><a href="mailto:Avosetta@hotmail.com" class="">Avosetta@hotmail.com</a></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div id="appendonsend" class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 1513.109375px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tweeters <<a href="mailto:tweeters-bounces@mailman11.u.washington.edu" class="">tweeters-bounces@mailman11.u.washington.edu</a>> on behalf of Dan Reiff, PhD <<a href="mailto:dan.owl.reiff@gmail.com" class="">dan.owl.reiff@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, January 20, 2019 12:53 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:tweeters@u.washington.edu" class="">tweeters@u.washington.edu</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Tweeters] The Collar That Can Stop a Bird-Killing Cat - The Atlantic</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="BodyFragment"><font size="2" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><div class="PlainText">Interesting article-has anyone on Tweeters tried this potential, partial solution?<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fscience%2Farchive%2F2015%2F12%2Faccessories-for-your-murderous-pet%2F419601%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C4e47b6ba89d94158ba0308d67eb4dbf3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636835712583692345&amp;sdata=KXyn%2F4kNBLluRN5d%2FsJNhGgsXI2s9sxezMgDBrIFxCA%3D&amp;reserved=0" class="">https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fscience%2Farchive%2F2015%2F12%2Faccessories-for-your-murderous-pet%2F419601%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C4e47b6ba89d94158ba0308d67eb4dbf3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636835712583692345&amp;sdata=KXyn%2F4kNBLluRN5d%2FsJNhGgsXI2s9sxezMgDBrIFxCA%3D&amp;reserved=0</a><br class=""><br class="">Best regards,<br class="">Dan Reiff<br class="">MI<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Tweeters mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Tweeters@u.washington.edu" class="">Tweeters@u.washington.edu</a><br class=""><a href="https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman11.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftweeters&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C4e47b6ba89d94158ba0308d67eb4dbf3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636835712583692345&amp;sdata=%2BzMgn7gUeVpEh%2F%2BYmVLbOnUTMFTFcO0uKPt%2BEpFvync%3D&amp;reserved=0" class="">https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman11.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftweeters&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C4e47b6ba89d94158ba0308d67eb4dbf3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636835712583692345&amp;sdata=%2BzMgn7gUeVpEh%2F%2BYmVLbOnUTMFTFcO0uKPt%2BEpFvync%3D&amp;reserved=0</a><br class=""></div></span></font></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-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