[Tweeters] Unknown Hawk

[J. Acker]

I’m not so sure about imm Red-Shouldered.  This bird appears to be a buteo, and a chunky one.  Red shoulders are more slender / less bulky looking.  Also the number and width of the tail bars is not matching up with the photos I have viewed online of red-shouldered. Additionally,  the cere should be yellowish in a red-shouldered and this photo has an all dark bill and cere.
But I am confused as to what this bird is also.

J. Acker
Owler at sounddsl.com
Bainbridge Island, WA
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From: BURT CUNNINGHAM
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 6:55 PM
To: THOMAS BENEDICT; tweeters at uw.edu
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Unknown Hawk

We thought more like Red-tail Hawk size. Did not see it fly.   Thanks. 

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From: THOMAS BENEDICT <benedict.t at comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 6:48:58 PM
To: BURT CUNNINGHAM <burtc_8 at msn.com>; tweeters at uw.edu <tweeters at uw.edu>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Unknown Hawk 
 
It's hard to tell size from the photo. Do you think it was Sharp-shinned hawk size or more like Red-tail Hawk size? Did you happen to see it fly? A description of its underside and front would be helpful. 

Tom Benedict 
Seahurst, WA 
On 03/11/2022 6:27 PM BURT CUNNINGHAM <burtc_8 at msn.com> wrote: 

Hello, 
My wife and I went for a ride around Fir Island and got a picture of this Hawk.  https://flic.kr/p/2n82Wbg 
We were not able to decide what it was. Please help. 
Thanks. 

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