[Tweeters] Unknown Hawk

[Peggy Mundy]

The OP bird doesn't show any yellow on the beak (cere, if I were talking parakeets), which red-shouldered hawks seem to have, even in immature birds from photos I'm seeing online.I'm still leaning toward red-tailed hawk -- our most common Buteo (and quite diverse in its appearance).
Peggy Mundy

 

    On Friday, March 11, 2022, 08:22:04 p.m. PST, Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 https://pixels.com/featured/5-red-shouldered-hawk-david-campione.html





On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:24 PM, Zora Monster <zoramon at mac.com> wrote:

The banding on the tail seems to narrow for a red-shouldered, and the length of the tail doesn’t seem long enough to me.  I believe this is a juvenile dark-morph red-tailed hawk.
Respectfully,Zora DermerSeattle

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On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:15 PM, Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10 at gmail.com> wrote:




The Audubon map is far out of date.  I remember from the 1960s while birding with Harry Nehls and a friend that we walked up on a very approachable immature Red-shouldered Hawk on Sauvie’s Island (in the Columbia River). About that time it was questioned  if the Oregon birds had been escapees from captivity.  (That happens a lot until it is realized that a species is getting or got to a location on its own.).   We were stunned because other than a few sightngs on the far southern Oregon Coast (Curry County), the species had not been reported in Oregon since the 1800s near Burns by Bendire.    Now of course they are very common in southern Oregon, particularly on the coast, and have been regular in NW Oregon and far SW Washington for years.  I have seen several in Pacific County, WA, but they are more numerous on the Oregon side of the river.  I am still hoping for a Red-shouldered Hawk on my yard list at Willapa Bay.  I only have seen two buteos in the yard, oddly one being a adult Broad-winged Hawk.    I am guessing that the Fir Island bird was quite approachable, which Red-shouldered Hawks are often, whereas Red-tailed Hawks always seem wary to me.
Jeff




On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:01 PM, THOMAS BENEDICT <benedict.t at comcast.net> wrote:
 
  I think Jeff may be correct. Look at this photo at audubon.org https://www.audubon.org/field-guide/bird/red-shouldered-hawk#photo5   
   Tom Benedict   Seahurst, WA  
  On 03/11/2022 6:53 PM Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10 at gmail.com> wrote:   
 immature Red-shouldered Hawk    
  On Mar 11, 2022, at 7:48 PM, THOMAS BENEDICT <benedict.t at comcast.net> wrote:     It's hard to tell size from the photo. Do you think it was Sharp-shinned hawk size or more like Red-tail Hawk size? Did you happen to see it fly? A description of its underside and front would be helpful.   
   Tom Benedict   Seahurst, WA  
  On 03/11/2022 6:27 PM BURT CUNNINGHAM <burtc_8 at msn.com> wrote:   
 Hello,  My wife and I went for a ride around Fir Island and got a picture of this Hawk.  https://flic.kr/p/2n82Wbg   We were not able to decide what it was. Please help.   Thanks  
   
    
 
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