[Tweeters] Feral vs. Wild Rock Pigeons

Hans-Joachim Feddern thefedderns at gmail.com
Sat Feb 19 19:55:15 PST 2022

Years ago, when we lived in Denver, Colorado. I watched some Rock Pigeons
at the Red Rock Amphitheater. They all looked like the original wild Rock
Pigeons with no color variations, even though they were likely from feral
stock. They sure looked like they were in their natural habitat! Not to
date myself, but if I correctly recall, they were not "countable" at that
time. Now the Magnificent Frigatebird I found, was a first for the Colorado

Good Birding!


On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 7:12 PM HAL MICHAEL <ucd880 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Pigeons were introduced/escaped into North America. It's like Red

> Junglefowl; any seen in N America will be feral. I also doubt that there

> are any populations in N America that are pure wild Rock Pigeon.


> Hal Michael

> Board of Directors,Ecologists Without Borders (http://ecowb.org/)

> Olympia WA

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> > On 02/19/2022 6:47 PM Carol Riddell <cariddellwa at gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dennis Paulson raised a great question about why some pigeon sightings

> turn up as rare birds in eBird. Rock Pigeon (Feral Pigeon) is the listing

> on the basic checklist. If you want to report a wild type, you have to add

> a species to the checklist and select Rock Pigeon (wild type). That is

> considered a rare bird. But how are we to determine what is a feral pigeon

> and what is a wild type Rock Pigeon? There is no guidance in eBird that I

> can find. When should we consider using the wild type category and what

> evidence of a rare pigeon sighting would eBird reviewers want to consider

> when deciding whether to include the report in the public data?

> >

> > I think knowing this would be as useful to birders who do not use eBird

> as it would be to eBirders. We all want to improve our birding skills and

> learn how to distinguish things in the field. Any answers from any local

> eBird reviewer who might feel so inclined? Thanks.

> >

> > Carol Riddell

> > Edmonds, WA

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*Hans Feddern*
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