[Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
jimbetz at jimbetz.com
jimbetz at jimbetz.com
Fri Aug 12 12:33:26 PDT 2022
Vicki,
Did anyone ask why this traffic isn't going to Paine Field? That
airport is certainly under-utilized and since it already exists an
increase in its traffic would be less impact than building a new
airport.
Did anyone talk about or ask about "how will the construction be
funded?"? I'm guessing that hefty amounts of taxpayer money will
go into this ...
- Jim
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> 3. 08062022 Westport Seabirds Trip Report (bill shelmerdine)
> 4. More SW semi-euphoria: tracked by the Border Patrol; 3.3
> inches of rain at Cave Creek Ranch already for August (Ed Newbold)
> 5. Enumclaw airport update (Vicki)
> 6. Re: Enumclaw airport update (Beverly Choltco-Devlin)
> 7. Re: Enumclaw airport update (johanna striar)
> 8. Re: Enumclaw airport update (Robert O'Brien)
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> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 15:21:32 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Marv Breece <marvbreece at q.com>
> To: Tweeters <Tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: [Tweeters] Kent Red-shouldered Hawk
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> This morning I saw the Kent RED-SHOULDERED HAWK from S 204th Street
> looking south. The bird was flying from one tree to another, at one
> point perching for several minutes at the SW corner of the horse
> track.
>
> Marv Breece
> Tukwila, WA
> marvbreece at q.com
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> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:51:02 -0700
> From: Michael Hobbs <birdmarymoor at gmail.com>
> To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: [Tweeters] Marymoor Park (Redmond, King Co.) 2022-08-11
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> Tweets - a fine sunny day with some birds, but not a lot that was
> unexpected. Still, really good to be out birding.
>
> Highlights:
>
> - Eurasian Collared-Dove - One at Compost Piles
> - Cooper's Hawk - Many, many sightings, but we believe it was all one
> bird
> - Hairy Woodpecker - Heard three times; 1-2 birds
> - Peregrine Falcon - One interacting with swallows, seen from Lake
> Platform
> - Warbling Vireo - One heard singing from Dog Meadow, after a miss last
> week. More should be coming through in migration soon
> - Western Tanager - Two or three across the slough, including a fine
> looking male
>
> Misses included Rock Pigeon, Vaux's Swift, Bushtit, Red-winged Blackbird,
> and Brown-headed Cowbird.
>
> For the day, 59 species.
>
> = Michael Hobbs
> = BirdMarymoor at gmail.com
> = www.marymoor.org/birding.htm
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> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 21:44:54 +0000
> From: bill shelmerdine <georn1 at hotmail.com>
> To: tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: [Tweeters] 08062022 Westport Seabirds Trip Report
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> Wow, what a trip. Great weather and an impressive bird and mammal
> show. It would be hard to do the trip justice and still keep this
> report reasonably short. We had sunny weather all day, starting off
> with a great sunrise as we left the harbor and great views of
> Olympic Mountains to the north and Mount Rainier to the east.
> After checking wind & swell direction, and checking to see where
> fishing boats were working, skipper Phil Anderson opted for a
> southerly route to Pacific County and Willipa Canyon. This was the
> area where the Hake fleet was fishing while shrimpers were working
> the waters north of Grays Canyon.
> This route turned out to be a great choice! The trip out was
> productive with the regular streams of Sooty Shearwater and Common
> Murres plentiful on the inner shelf. Large flocks of Phalarope
> (hundreds) were gathered on the water in many locations. For the
> second week in a row, Red Phalarope significantly outnumbered
> Red-Necked, most trips it?s the other way around. It was here where
> our first Cassin?s Auklet was sighted feeding within a large
> Phalarope flock.
>
> When we approached the deeper shelf towards Willipa Canyon, we could
> see this was going to be a good day. For those counting and
> recording numbers it would be a challenge. Seeing the Hake Fleet
> fishing in the distance we began to encounter great number of birds
> and a nice mix of species. Scanning in every direction, were large
> groups of California Gulls and Shearwaters, and many Fork-tailed
> Storm Petrels. Splashes in the distance indicated several schools/
> pods of dolphins working the area. There was lot?s of food in the
> water and the feeding activity was impressive. It was here were we
> had our first really good looks at Pink-footed Shearwaters, Cassin?s
> Auklet, and Fork-tailed Storm Petrels, many young of the year in
> pristine juvenile plumage.
>
> Then there was all of the activity around the Hake boats. As is
> often the case this had the effect of concentrating a large number
> of species dominated by California Gulls and Sooty Shearwaters. It
> was here that we picked up our first Black-footed Albatross of the
> day. Northern Fulmar were plentiful and our first of Short-tailed
> Shearwaters of the day were seen here at close range, often coming
> right up to the boat. With all the activity there must be
> Jaegers/Skua. They did not disappoint us. We were treated to great
> looks and both adult and Sub-adult Long-tailed and Pomarine Jaegers;
> South Polar Skua, and an acrobatic Parasitic Jaeger giving chase to
> gulls. Within a span of 15 or 20 minutes we had the coveted Skua
> Slam with all members of the North Pacific Jaeger/ Skua clan working
> the area.
>
> It was difficult to leave all this action, but deeper waters and the
> potential for a few different species called. The trip to Willipa
> Canyon and Deep Chum stop off the edge of the shelf was productive.
> Often with so much activity at the boats, this area can be fairly
> devoid of birds having all been drawn to the fishing activity. Not
> so today. We added to our numbers and picked up a few new species
> for the day. An Arctic Tern came in close, but briefly and was seen
> well only by those on the bow. Our first Leach?s Storm-Petrel
> appeared and then disappeared in the distance (to be seen well later
> at the chum stop). The big surprise was a quick flyby Alcid showing
> the characteristics of an alternate plumage Parakeet Auklet. Sadly,
> the bird was seen by only a couple of lucky individuals on the bow
> and was not photographed. An exceptional sighting for the season.
> It is interesting to note that winter and spring trips recorded
> numbers of this species this year, while a br!
> eeding plumage individual has been summering along the San
> Fransisco Coastline (for the second year in a row).
> As we approached our deep chum stop, there were few if any birds in
> sight. There was however, a nice light breeze, good conditions for
> chumming. Starting out quiet, after a time activity built to a
> great stop. Really good looks at Black-footed Albatross on the
> water close; Sabines Gull and a sub-adult Long-tailed Jaeger made
> several close passes around the boat while a couple of Leach?s and
> fork-tailed Storm-Petrel worked the chum slick coming in close at
> times. Our first Buller?s Shearwater of the year was picked out by
> Spotter Cara Borre, a striking bird making a single close pass and
> moving on. 11 species visited the slick or passed through with
> great looks and many photo opportunities for many. Blue Shark and
> Mola Mola also made appearances with one Mola Mola leaping clear of
> the water at one point, a feat that seems most improbable for this
> curious looking species.
>
> The return trip continued with plenty of action. Dolphins and
> Tufted Puffin were highlights. The outer shelf held large numbers
> of Pacific White-sided, with some very accommodating bow-riders.
> Shortly they were joined by Northern Right-Whale Dolphins. Never
> expected and always appreciated; at least five individuals chose to
> ride the bow wake and stay close to the boat for quite some time.
> Always a treat, they were seen well by all on board. As we departed
> the area numbers dropped off but we still had scattered numbers
> throughout the trip home, there was always something to look at,
> including probably our best looks at Humpback Whale. A bit more of
> just about everything and our first of three Tufted Puffin for the
> day.
> Inshore, the area around harbor entrance and the south jetty were
> nothing short of remarkable (and very difficult to count accurately
> as the numbers and species mix had us trying to look in every
> direction at once). I?m sure we undercounted here. Very large
> numbers of Common Murre and Rhinoceros Auklets were impressive,
> among them a breeding plumage Tufted Puffin, unusual this close to
> shore and a third for the trip, a great total for the day.
> All and all a great trip with a great group of folks. About half of
> the participants were Washingtonians joined by others from Oregon,
> New Mexico, Texas and Florida. Spotters for the trip were Bill
> Tweit, Bill Shelmerdine, and Cara Borre. Boat Crew included Skipper
> Phil Anderson and Ken Luce. Trip totals and final numbers will be
> posted to ebird and the Westport Seabirds webpage.
> Bill Shelmerdine
> Westport Seabirds
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 04:25:24 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Ed Newbold <ednewbold1 at yahoo.com>
> To: Tweeters Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: [Tweeters] More SW semi-euphoria: tracked by the Border
> Patrol; 3.3 inches of rain at Cave Creek Ranch already for August
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> Hi all,
> The monsoon still seems perhaps even better than a normal one in the
> US Southwest, a piece of news that doesn't fit the pattern of bad
> news lately. (Many Northwest birds are known to leave the Northwest
> early and head to the SW and NW Mexico in hopes of rain there.)
> Delia and I are back. We ducked lightning bolts and got at least
> some rain every day, we got tracked by Border Patrol agents, we
> hosted Turtle researchers and Bat researchers,? saw our first Bats
> at close range, ducked off a trail for a Bear family, trekked 9
> miles in 95 degree heat, and picked up a few lifers while bursting
> into E-birds top-1000 for Arizona.? Seattle seems boring by
> comparison.
> Here's the blog and the movie, which is just me ranting:
>
> Ed Newbold | ?Make sure you pet the cubs so the mother knows you are
> friendly?
>
>
>
> Thanks all,
> Ed Newbold? Beacon Hill, Seattle? ednewbold1 at yahoo.com
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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 06:20:38 -0700
> From: Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com>
> To: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: [Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
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> Hi, so, I attended the meeting, which was chaos, and the speaker discussed
> too many things on his agenda, which ticked me off.
> But, the 6 mile area touches near the west side of Lake Tapps, takes over
> part of the Green River, and touches the north east part of Enumclaw.
> Although Veazie Marsh is not directly within the perimeter that was mapped
> out, it would be terribly affected by this.
> This airport is for CARGO, and the statement was, they are practically
> giving the land away. It also butts up against Muckleshoots Amphitheater.
> Makes me wonder whose land they plan on including here.
> This is a flat area, for the most part and great winter birding is
> scattered everywhere. And it is mostly pasture and farmland they will be
> of course whittling away at more precious open space that needs protection.
> Please contact the powers that be in your area and help fight this.
> There is room at Paine Field, according to what was shared.
> Unfortunately very little information of substance was actually shared
> at this meeting, which was outside with little ability to hear the majority
> of the conversation.
> Vicki Biltz
> Buckley, WA 98321
> --
>
>
>
> vickibiltz at gmail.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/saw-whets_new/
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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 06:46:58 -0700
> From: Beverly Choltco-Devlin <bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com>
> To: Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com>
> Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
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> Thank you for this information, Vicki.
>
> I am appalled at the notion of having a possibly international airport so
> close to Mt. Rainier, several state parks and the beautiful farmlands in
> this area.
>
> Wildlife is already being displaced due to the rampant clear-cutting of
> forests to put thousands of homes in place with zero regard for the impact
> of the natural areas, not to mention the farmland.
>
> The noise alone would be disruptive to the many species here and the birds
> especially who migrate using the many wetlands including Veazie marsh and
> other nearby birding locations. What will be the impact on the Green and
> White rivers? They've already added an international airport in Everett. I
> can't believe they need another one. Additionally there is no road
> infrastructure to support this.
>
> I am planning to write to my legislators and the commission today.
>
> We must stop this and it is very concerning that, in this proposal, the
> Enumclaw plateau ranks highest.
>
> Here are some links I found so people can become informed.
>
> https://tvw.org/video/commercial-aviation-coordinating-commission-2022061166/?eventID=2022061166
> https://www.cityofenumclaw.net/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=533
>
> And from this article:
> https://darik.news/washington/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-protest/681234.html
>
> "The Enumclaw City Attorney is tasked with researching the matter and
> reporting back to the council when further information is received. The
> CACC is seeking comments from local citizens who may be potentially
> affected by its decision. Virtual public meetings will be held by the CACC
> from August 23 to August 31. More information and links will be announced.
> If you would like to contact CACC about this issue, visit Christina Cree,
> Communications 360-810-0902 or write CACC at wsdot.wa.gov
> <https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-resist/mailto:CACC@wsdot.wa.gov>
> "
>
> We must act to preserve the remaining green spaces in southern King County
>
> Beverly
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:21 AM Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, so, I attended the meeting, which was chaos, and the speaker discussed
>> too many things on his agenda, which ticked me off.
>> But, the 6 mile area touches near the west side of Lake Tapps, takes over
>> part of the Green River, and touches the north east part of Enumclaw.
>> Although Veazie Marsh is not directly within the perimeter that was mapped
>> out, it would be terribly affected by this.
>> This airport is for CARGO, and the statement was, they are practically
>> giving the land away. It also butts up against Muckleshoots Amphitheater.
>> Makes me wonder whose land they plan on including here.
>> This is a flat area, for the most part and great winter birding is
>> scattered everywhere. And it is mostly pasture and farmland they will be
>> of course whittling away at more precious open space that needs protection.
>> Please contact the powers that be in your area and help fight this.
>> There is room at Paine Field, according to what was shared.
>> Unfortunately very little information of substance was actually shared
>> at this meeting, which was outside with little ability to hear the majority
>> of the conversation.
>> Vicki Biltz
>> Buckley, WA 98321
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> vickibiltz at gmail.com
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/saw-whets_new/
>>
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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 08:10:36 -0700
> From: johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com>
> To: Beverly Choltco-Devlin <bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com>
> Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
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> I live in Port Angeles and the growlers really growl. I recommend those
> who are more in the know get organized and send us links so we can voice
> our concerns.
>
> thank
> Johanna Striar
> regular El Wha visitor
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:48 AM Beverly Choltco-Devlin <
> bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for this information, Vicki.
>>
>> I am appalled at the notion of having a possibly international airport so
>> close to Mt. Rainier, several state parks and the beautiful farmlands in
>> this area.
>>
>> Wildlife is already being displaced due to the rampant clear-cutting of
>> forests to put thousands of homes in place with zero regard for the impact
>> of the natural areas, not to mention the farmland.
>>
>> The noise alone would be disruptive to the many species here and the birds
>> especially who migrate using the many wetlands including Veazie marsh and
>> other nearby birding locations. What will be the impact on the Green and
>> White rivers? They've already added an international airport in Everett. I
>> can't believe they need another one. Additionally there is no road
>> infrastructure to support this.
>>
>> I am planning to write to my legislators and the commission today.
>>
>> We must stop this and it is very concerning that, in this proposal, the
>> Enumclaw plateau ranks highest.
>>
>> Here are some links I found so people can become informed.
>>
>>
>> https://tvw.org/video/commercial-aviation-coordinating-commission-2022061166/?eventID=2022061166
>> https://www.cityofenumclaw.net/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=533
>>
>> And from this article:
>> https://darik.news/washington/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-protest/681234.html
>>
>> "The Enumclaw City Attorney is tasked with researching the matter and
>> reporting back to the council when further information is received. The
>> CACC is seeking comments from local citizens who may be potentially
>> affected by its decision. Virtual public meetings will be held by the CACC
>> from August 23 to August 31. More information and links will be announced.
>> If you would like to contact CACC about this issue, visit Christina Cree,
>> Communications 360-810-0902 or write CACC at wsdot.wa.gov
>> <https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-resist/mailto:CACC@wsdot.wa.gov>
>> "
>>
>> We must act to preserve the remaining green spaces in southern King County
>>
>> Beverly
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:21 AM Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, so, I attended the meeting, which was chaos, and the speaker
>>> discussed too many things on his agenda, which ticked me off.
>>> But, the 6 mile area touches near the west side of Lake Tapps, takes
>>> over part of the Green River, and touches the north east part of Enumclaw.
>>> Although Veazie Marsh is not directly within the perimeter that was mapped
>>> out, it would be terribly affected by this.
>>> This airport is for CARGO, and the statement was, they are practically
>>> giving the land away. It also butts up against Muckleshoots Amphitheater.
>>> Makes me wonder whose land they plan on including here.
>>> This is a flat area, for the most part and great winter birding is
>>> scattered everywhere. And it is mostly pasture and farmland they will be
>>> of course whittling away at more precious open space that needs protection.
>>> Please contact the powers that be in your area and help fight this.
>>> There is room at Paine Field, according to what was shared.
>>> Unfortunately very little information of substance was actually shared
>>> at this meeting, which was outside with little ability to hear the majority
>>> of the conversation.
>>> Vicki Biltz
>>> Buckley, WA 98321
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> vickibiltz at gmail.com
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/saw-whets_new/
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tweeters mailing list
>>> Tweeters at u.washington.edu
>>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters
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>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 08:26:46 -0700
> From: "Robert O'Brien" <baro at pdx.edu>
> To: johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com>
> Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Enumclaw airport update
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> Being from Portland, I have no direct involvement. But a major issue
> (which I don't believe has been mentioned) is the airspace around the
> airport. Airplane/Bird collisions are a major issue. Especially
> waterfowl, especially geese. I don't know the extent that this area is
> near flying waterfowl. But they have to be kept away from flight paths
> landing and taking off. This might be a safety issue.
> Bob OBrien Portland
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 8:11 AM johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I live in Port Angeles and the growlers really growl. I recommend those
>> who are more in the know get organized and send us links so we can voice
>> our concerns.
>>
>> thank
>> Johanna Striar
>> regular El Wha visitor
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:48 AM Beverly Choltco-Devlin <
>> bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for this information, Vicki.
>>>
>>> I am appalled at the notion of having a possibly international airport so
>>> close to Mt. Rainier, several state parks and the beautiful farmlands in
>>> this area.
>>>
>>> Wildlife is already being displaced due to the rampant clear-cutting of
>>> forests to put thousands of homes in place with zero regard for the impact
>>> of the natural areas, not to mention the farmland.
>>>
>>> The noise alone would be disruptive to the many species here and the
>>> birds especially who migrate using the many wetlands including Veazie marsh
>>> and other nearby birding locations. What will be the impact on the Green
>>> and White rivers? They've already added an international airport in
>>> Everett. I can't believe they need another one. Additionally there is no
>>> road infrastructure to support this.
>>>
>>> I am planning to write to my legislators and the commission today.
>>>
>>> We must stop this and it is very concerning that, in this proposal, the
>>> Enumclaw plateau ranks highest.
>>>
>>> Here are some links I found so people can become informed.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://tvw.org/video/commercial-aviation-coordinating-commission-2022061166/?eventID=2022061166
>>> https://www.cityofenumclaw.net/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=533
>>>
>>> And from this article:
>>> https://darik.news/washington/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-protest/681234.html
>>>
>>> "The Enumclaw City Attorney is tasked with researching the matter and
>>> reporting back to the council when further information is received. The
>>> CACC is seeking comments from local citizens who may be potentially
>>> affected by its decision. Virtual public meetings will be held by the CACC
>>> from August 23 to August 31. More information and links will be announced.
>>> If you would like to contact CACC about this issue, visit Christina Cree,
>>> Communications 360-810-0902 or write CACC at wsdot.wa.gov
>>> <https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-resist/mailto:CACC@wsdot.wa.gov>
>>> "
>>>
>>> We must act to preserve the remaining green spaces in southern King County
>>>
>>> Beverly
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:21 AM Vicki <vickibiltz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, so, I attended the meeting, which was chaos, and the speaker
>>>> discussed too many things on his agenda, which ticked me off.
>>>> But, the 6 mile area touches near the west side of Lake Tapps, takes
>>>> over part of the Green River, and touches the north east part of Enumclaw.
>>>> Although Veazie Marsh is not directly within the perimeter that was mapped
>>>> out, it would be terribly affected by this.
>>>> This airport is for CARGO, and the statement was, they are practically
>>>> giving the land away. It also butts up against Muckleshoots Amphitheater.
>>>> Makes me wonder whose land they plan on including here.
>>>> This is a flat area, for the most part and great winter birding is
>>>> scattered everywhere. And it is mostly pasture and farmland they will be
>>>> of course whittling away at more precious open space that needs
>>>> protection.
>>>> Please contact the powers that be in your area and help fight this.
>>>> There is room at Paine Field, according to what was shared.
>>>> Unfortunately very little information of substance was actually
>>>> shared at this meeting, which was outside with little ability to hear the
>>>> majority of the conversation.
>>>> Vicki Biltz
>>>> Buckley, WA 98321
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> vickibiltz at gmail.com
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/saw-whets_new/
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> From: THOMAS BENEDICT <benedict.t at comcast.net>
> To: johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com>, Beverly Choltco-Devlin
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>> I live in Port Angeles and the growlers really growl
>
> Does the proposal include military aircraft use?
>
> Tom Benedict
> Seahurst, WA
>
>> On 08/12/2022 8:10 AM johanna striar <jlstri at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I live in Port Angeles and the growlers really growl. I
>> recommend those who are more in the know get organized and send us
>> links so we can voice our concerns.
>>
>> thank
>> Johanna Striar
>> regular El Wha visitor
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:48 AM Beverly Choltco-Devlin
>> <bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com mailto:bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>> > > Thank you for this information, Vicki.
>> >
>> > I am appalled at the notion of having a possibly
>> international airport so close to Mt. Rainier, several state parks
>> and the beautiful farmlands in this area.
>> >
>> > Wildlife is already being displaced due to the rampant
>> clear-cutting of forests to put thousands of homes in place with
>> zero regard for the impact of the natural areas, not to mention the
>> farmland.
>> >
>> > The noise alone would be disruptive to the many species
>> here and the birds especially who migrate using the many wetlands
>> including Veazie marsh and other nearby birding locations. What
>> will be the impact on the Green and White rivers? They've already
>> added an international airport in Everett. I can't believe they
>> need another one. Additionally there is no road infrastructure to
>> support this.
>> >
>> > I am planning to write to my legislators and the commission today.
>> >
>> > We must stop this and it is very concerning that, in this
>> proposal, the Enumclaw plateau ranks highest.
>> >
>> > Here are some links I found so people can become informed.
>> >
>> >
>> https://tvw.org/video/commercial-aviation-coordinating-commission-2022061166/?eventID=2022061166
>> > https://www.cityofenumclaw.net/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=533
>> >
>> > And from this article:
>> https://darik.news/washington/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-protest/681234.html
>> >
>> > "The Enumclaw City Attorney is tasked with researching
>> the matter and reporting back to the council when further
>> information is received. The CACC is seeking comments from local
>> citizens who may be potentially affected by its decision. Virtual
>> public meetings will be held by the CACC from August 23 to August
>> 31. More information and links will be announced. If you would like
>> to contact CACC about this issue, visit Christina Cree,
>> Communications 360-810-0902 or write CACC at wsdot.wa.gov
>> https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/a-major-enumclaw-airport-is-being-proposed-we-must-resist/mailto:CACC@wsdot.wa.gov
>> "
>> >
>> > We must act to preserve the remaining green spaces in
>> southern King County
>> >
>> > Beverly
>> >
>> > >
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