[Tweeters] Little Stint / Billy Frank Jr National Wildlife Refuge

Robert O'Brien baro at pdx.edu
Tue Apr 26 10:29:35 PDT 2022


Hi Steve-
?The bird to the left of the Stint in the eBird photos is a Least
Sandpiper.? Note the yellow legs.Feet especially
Bob OBrien

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:23 AM Steve Hampton <stevechampton at gmail.com>
wrote:


> Bob,

>

> Thanks for engaging me. I'm a bit confused about what you said about leg

> color in the photos, which you said appeared yellow in the Least photo and

> dark in the stint photos. But there are no photos of Least Sandpiper; there

> are just two photos of the presumed stint. To me, the legs have a hint of

> olive, which means they are probably yellow, just in shadow or with mud. My

> understanding is that Little Stint legs should be jet black, blacker than

> Western.

>

> Regarding plumage, I pulled out Veit and Jonsson (1987) from *American

> Birds, *which has excellent illustrations and discussion. The tertials

> and scapulars on both species (in alternate plumage) can be nearly

> identical. To me, the extensive streaking on the breast sides and the tail

> protruding beyond the wings suggest Least Sandpiper, as does the overall

> structure.

>

> Again, the pics are here: https://ebird.org/checklist/S107940245

>

> I'm hoping others will weigh in.

>

> thanks,

>

> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:37 PM Robert O'Brien <baro at pdx.edu> wrote:

>

>> One giveaway is the legs. Least Sandpiper has yellow legs, visible in

>> the photo. The Little Stint clearly has dark legs also visible in the

>> excellent photos.

>> I'd worry more about Western Sandpiper, which is the next excellent

>> photo. There are obvious differences there but the legs don't help.

>> Bob OBrien Portland

>> PS Can anyone predict what time of day (tidewise?) would be best

>> for chasing tomorrow, Tuesday? I guess it was seen around 9-10AM

>> Saturday. Little Stint is my Most Wanted Stint.................

>>

>>

>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:42 PM Steve Hampton <stevechampton at gmail.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>>> I've only seen Little Stint a few times, so I'm interested in more

>>> discussion of this bird. The bill shape and overall posture seem identical

>>> to Least Sandpiper to me. Plumage-wise, is the strong streaking on the

>>> sides of the breast possible on Little Stint? I'm interested in an

>>> explanation why this is not a bright adult Least Sandpiper and what the key

>>> marks are.

>>>

>>> thanks,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 6:58 PM dan&erika <danerika at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Hi Tweets--

>>>>

>>>> First let me apologize for the delay in my posting this record.

>>>> Yesterday, 25 April 2022, I photographed a bird at the Billy Frank Jr

>>>> National Wildlife Refuge. It was on the south side of the very beginning of

>>>> the estuary boardwalk. Two birds are in the image, one clearly a Least

>>>> Sandpiper. It slowly occurred to me that the other, brighter bird is a

>>>> Little Stint. I shared the photo with Dennis Paulson, who concurs with my

>>>> identification.

>>>>

>>>> Two photos are included in the following eBird checklist:

>>>> https://ebird.org/checklist/S107940245.

>>>>

>>>> Note apparent black legs, white-tipped wing coverts, and rusty breast,

>>>> and note the black streaks against a pale chestnut wash on the sides of the

>>>> breast and the chestnut color of the tertials.

>>>>

>>>> A refuge volunteer informed us that the shorebirds had been absent on

>>>> Saturday the 24th, but that a large fallout of shorebirds occurred on

>>>> Saturday night. I took the photos in eBird only because the birds presented

>>>> a pretty composition.

>>>>

>>>> Dan

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Dan or Erika Tallman

>>>> Olympia, Washington

>>>> danerika at gmail.com

>>>>

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