[Tweeters] North Jetty Spizzella looks quite fine for a Chipping Sparrow to me!

[Robert O'Brien]

Got this from Brad-
Brad Waggoner
9:10 PM (21 minutes ago)
to me
Got this from Brad-

"Look closely at your obvious Clay-colored Sparrow please Bob! There is no
loral eye stripe as Dennis Paulson had also noted in his brief but to the
point reasoning for the North Head bird being a CHSP! Key ID features as
noted go before perceived “too stripey head”! The spizella at North Head on
that checklist is unquestionably a Chipping Sparrow! Thanks for showing an
obvious CCSP!".

OK, I'll give.  Somehow I had not looked at the third image of the North
Jetty bird, the best image of them all, and showing the lores well..  Yes,
this is a chipping sparrow.  Notice also how the jizz, general shape of the
head in the Oregon Clay-colored is much different from the 'gentle' rounded
Chipping Sparrow shape.
Bob


On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:50 PM Robert O'Brien <baro at pdx.edu> wrote:


> I gotta agree with Mike.  The head is just too stripey in too many places

> for chipping.

> Here's an example.from a few weeks ago.

> Bob OBrien  Carver OR

>

>

> https://ebird.org/checklist/S94849232?_gl=1*1grzp13*_ga*MTc1ODE0NjE2OS4xNjMzODA5NTIw*_ga_QR4NVXZ8BM*MTYzNDM1NTY1Ny41LjEuMTYzNDM1NTczMi40NQ..#flag-370655411&_ga=2.187790056.1595968831.1634355644-1758146169.1633809520

>

> Bob OBrien  Portland

>

> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 6:44 PM Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson at comcast.net>

> wrote:

>

>> I would say the distinctly reddish crown stripes and dark eyeline

>> continued in front of the eye to me points to it being a Chipping Sparrow.

>> In Clay-colored the lores are pale or just slightly darkened, not with the

>> fairly distinct dark line that seems to characterize Chipping.

>>

>> I agree with Mike that either species would be unusual at that date and

>> locality.

>>

>> Dennis Paulson

>> Seattle

>>

>> > On Oct 15, 2021, at 5:35 PM, Ryan Justice <blackburnian151 at gmail.com>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> > Looks like a Chipping to me.

>> >

>> > Ryan

>> >

>> > Sent from my iPhone

>> >

>> >> On Oct 15, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Mike Patterson <celata at pacifier.com>

>> wrote:

>> >>

>> >> As you say, fall Spizellas are difficult and, given that Chipping

>> >> Sparrow is a resident and Clay-colored is vagrant, it is understandable

>> >> that one my to default to the more expected species, except that

>> >> Clay-colored Sparrow is actually less rare than Chipping along the

>> >> Pacific Coast this time of year...

>> >>

>> >> In this case the buffy breast, the strong mustachial mark and

>> >> the well defined crown stripe and contrast between the very gray

>> >> nape and the generally buffy tones over say this is a slam dunk

>> >> Clay-colored Sparrow.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Mike Patterson

>> >> Astoria, OR

>> >> I don't know...

>> >> http://www.surfbirds.com/community-blogs/northcoastdiaries/?p=3924

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