[Tweeters] Dark-eyed Junco with white wing bars
baro at pdx.edu
Tue Oct 12 06:02:19 PDT 2021
P.s. I take back what I just said about the photos not being useful. You
have to wade through a lot of different races but when you get to the ones
of white-winged junco they are very useful.
On Monday, October 11, 2021, Robert O'Brien <baro at pdx.edu> wrote:
> Well, you have to be careful about generalizations, particularly those
> based on older literature.
> Check out this discussion from Colorado Birds Listserv. where they have
> lots of experience with lots of Junco races.
> The photos of the original bird are not there anymore and the 'many'
> photos by Christian Nunes are not much help. But his comments are
> certainly pertinent.
> he's Paja....atHotmail.com
> It's hard to say too much without better photos. *Hopefully it will
> return and Jeannine can get better, still, photos tomorrow. *
> A very cool bird, whatever it is.
> Bob OBrien Portland.
> PS You may have to click on individual posts to expand them.
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 9:15 PM Wilson Cady <gorgebirds at juno.com> wrote:
>> We had Washington's first White-winged Junco at our feeders in Skamania
>> County in April, 2018. They are larger in size than Oregon Juncos and
>> other identification features are a huge pink bill and as mentioned
>> earlier, the amount of white in the tail and black mask. The feather
>> coloration was unlike that of a Slate-colored, with the one we had looking
>> more bluish gray.
>> Wilson Cady
>> Columbia River Gorge, WA
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: "Robert O'Brien" <baro at pdx.edu>
>> To: Philip Dickinson <pdickins at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Jeannine Carter <jnine28 at gmail.com>, "tweeters at u.washington.edu" <
>> tweeters at u.washington.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Dark-eyed Junco with white wing bars
>> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:33:18 -0700
>> Actually it seems more likely to be The White Winged junco subspecies of
>> Dark-eyed junco. This was once considered a separate species but now has
>> been lumped with all the rest of them. It ranges from the Black Hills of
>> South Dakota down into Eastern Colorado and Wyoming. Males are pretty
>> non-migratory and this looks like a male. Note the darkness around the eye
>> I don't believe slate'colored junco shows that. Now this has far more white
>> than even a white winged junco, which typically shows 2 white wing bars of
>> varying intensity. Here they seem to be joined together to form a single
>> wide wing bar. That's not normal.
>> White-winged juncos are very rare on the West Coast. I know if only one
>> record for Oregon many many years ago. Don't know if there are any for
>> Washington state. Bob O'Brien Portland
>> On Monday, October 11, 2021, Philip Dickinson <pdickins at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Looks like a slate-colored junco, and these occasionally have bold white
>>> wing bars
>>> Phil Dickinson
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Jeannine Carter <jnine28 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Tweeters,
>>> I was sitting at my kitchen table where I watch the birds in our
>>> backyard, and this junco immediately caught my eye with its white wing
>>> bars. I'm in NW Seattle, and have a ton of Juncos year-round.
>>> I'm quite unsure whom I have visiting my yard. Can anyone help me with
>>> this ID?
>>> Here is the video I took of it at 5pm this evening, so I apologize for
>>> the lighting:
>>> Jeannine Carter
>>> NW Seattle
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>>> Tweeters at u.washington.edu
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