[Tweeters] Dark-eyed Junco with white wing bars

Robert O'Brien baro at pdx.edu
Mon Oct 11 23:42:01 PDT 2021

Well, you have to be careful about generalizations, particularly those
based on older literature.
Check out this discussion from Colorado Birds Listserv. where they have
lots of experience with lots of Junco races.
The photos of the original bird are not there anymore and the 'many' photos
by Christian Nunes are not much help. But his comments are certainly
he's Paja....atHotmail.com
It's hard to say too much without better photos. *Hopefully it will
return and Jeannine can get better, still, photos tomorrow. *
A very cool bird, whatever it is.
Bob OBrien Portland.
PS You may have to click on individual posts to expand them.

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 9:15 PM Wilson Cady <gorgebirds at juno.com> wrote:

> We had Washington's first White-winged Junco at our feeders in Skamania

> County in April, 2018. They are larger in size than Oregon Juncos and

> other identification features are a huge pink bill and as mentioned

> earlier, the amount of white in the tail and black mask. The feather

> coloration was unlike that of a Slate-colored, with the one we had looking

> more bluish gray.



> Wilson Cady

> Columbia River Gorge, WA



> ---------- Original Message ----------

> From: "Robert O'Brien" <baro at pdx.edu>

> To: Philip Dickinson <pdickins at gmail.com>

> Cc: Jeannine Carter <jnine28 at gmail.com>, "tweeters at u.washington.edu" <

> tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Dark-eyed Junco with white wing bars

> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:33:18 -0700


> Actually it seems more likely to be The White Winged junco subspecies of

> Dark-eyed junco. This was once considered a separate species but now has

> been lumped with all the rest of them. It ranges from the Black Hills of

> South Dakota down into Eastern Colorado and Wyoming. Males are pretty

> non-migratory and this looks like a male. Note the darkness around the eye

> I don't believe slate'colored junco shows that. Now this has far more white

> than even a white winged junco, which typically shows 2 white wing bars of

> varying intensity. Here they seem to be joined together to form a single

> wide wing bar. That's not normal.

> White-winged juncos are very rare on the West Coast. I know if only one

> record for Oregon many many years ago. Don't know if there are any for

> Washington state. Bob O'Brien Portland



> On Monday, October 11, 2021, Philip Dickinson <pdickins at gmail.com> wrote:


>> Looks like a slate-colored junco, and these occasionally have bold white

>> wing bars


>> Phil Dickinson


>> Sent from my iPhone


>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Jeannine Carter <jnine28 at gmail.com> wrote:



>> Hi Tweeters,


>> I was sitting at my kitchen table where I watch the birds in our

>> backyard, and this junco immediately caught my eye with its white wing

>> bars. I'm in NW Seattle, and have a ton of Juncos year-round.


>> I'm quite unsure whom I have visiting my yard. Can anyone help me with

>> this ID?


>> Here is the video I took of it at 5pm this evening, so I apologize for

>> the lighting:

>> https://youtu.be/9t7t2jWTMhk


>> Thanks!

>> Jeannine Carter

>> NW Seattle


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