From zest4parus at hotmail.com Sat May 1 09:53:19 2021 From: zest4parus at hotmail.com (Faye McAdams Hands) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Turtle Doves being wiped out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for sharing Diane. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Tweeters on behalf of Diane Yorgason-Quinn Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 12:16:08 PM To: Tweeters Subject: [Tweeters] Turtle Doves being wiped out Turtle Doves along the Mediterranean have been declining steeply and have been upgraded to Globally Threatened by the International Union for the Conservation of Nature. At the same time, the Italians have granted licenses to shoot up to 7.5 million, out of a population estimated to be between 3 and 11 million on the continent. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-joins-efforts-to-conserve-turtle-doves-as-italy-declares-open-season/ Diane Yorgason-Quinn Gig Harbor, WA Avosetta@hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 1northraven at gmail.com Sat May 1 10:00:33 2021 From: 1northraven at gmail.com (J Christian Kessler) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] ABA's Birding magazine Message-ID: I have 30 years (Dec 1990 - January 2021) of *Birding* magazine in search of a more attentive home. As I moved coast to coast three times during this period, it may be missing 2-3 magazines (I have not checked), but is otherwise icomplete. Prefer an institutional new home, but private homes acceptable too. Please email me privately. 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URL: From ucd880 at comcast.net Sat May 1 12:52:33 2021 From: ucd880 at comcast.net (HAL MICHAEL) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Turtle Doves being wiped out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <223469611.33050.1619898753623@connect.xfinity.com> Our attitude towards gambier management is a tad warped. In an old book I have, on CA Gamebirds I believe, the authors note that Band-tailed Pigeon, annually lay two eggs and yet had a daily limit of multiple birds. Deer, with the same annual reproductive output, had a one per year. More thought is necessary. Hal Michael Board of Directors, Ecologists Without Borders http://ecowb.org/ Olympia WA 360-459-4005 360-791-7702 (C) ucd880@comcast.net > On 05/01/2021 9:53 AM Faye McAdams Hands wrote: > > > > Thanks for sharing Diane. > > Get Outlook for iOS https://aka.ms/o0ukef > > --------------------------------------------- > From: Tweeters on behalf of Diane Yorgason-Quinn > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 12:16:08 PM > To: Tweeters > Subject: [Tweeters] Turtle Doves being wiped out > > Turtle Doves along the Mediterranean have been declining steeply and have been upgraded to Globally Threatened by the International Union for the Conservation of Nature. At the same time, the Italians have granted licenses to shoot up to 7.5 million, out of a population estimated to be between 3 and 11 million on the continent. > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-joins-efforts-to-conserve-turtle-doves-as-italy-declares-open-season/ > > Diane Yorgason-Quinn > Gig Harbor, WA > Avosetta@hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Singing continuously and approachable. About 10am Saturday. Other highlights for his group: Western Tanager: Everybody got good looks. RB Sapsucker: Another eye popper. Chipping Sparrows: Close looks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marvbreece at q.com Sat May 1 18:01:21 2021 From: marvbreece at q.com (Marv Breece) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Kent Valley birding Message-ID: <2015966606.63219525.1619917281050.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com> This afternoon there were 2 WESTERN KINGBIRDS on 204th just west of Frager Road. The birds were perched at the west end of the horse track. This is in Kent. There was also a pair of CALIFORNIA SCRUB-JAYS. Here's one of the kingbirds: [ https://flic.kr/p/2kW5TMf | https://flic.kr/p/2kW5TMf ] At M Street, off 15th in Auburn, near Emerald Downs, there was a SEMIPALMATED PLOVER on the far side of the big pond. Also at this location were LEAST SANDPIPERS, WESTERN SANDPIPERS, 2 DUNLIN & 2 LONG-BILLED DOWITCHERS. Marv Breece Tukwila, WA marvbreece@q.com Pbase Images : https://www.pbase.com/marvbreece Flickr Videos : https://www.flickr.com/photos/138163614@N02/ Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHbkNzr4TaZ6ZBWfoJNvavw/featured -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdanzenbaker at gmail.com Sat May 1 18:29:05 2021 From: jdanzenbaker at gmail.com (Jim Danzenbaker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Crazy Battle Ground, Clark County yard birding Message-ID: Hi Tweeters, I decided to spend a nice quiet afternoon in my Battle Ground, Clark County yard this afternoon with my eyes to the sky and was rewarded for my effort: American White Pelican: 11 (one flock heading east) Turkey Vulture: 5 (one flock - what's a sky watch without a few vultures?) Osprey: 1 Northern Harrier: 1 (only occasional in Spring over my yard) Cooper's Hawk: 1 (local breeder) Bald Eagle: 2 Red-tailed Hawk: 6 (2 local pairs, one lone adult and one immature) SWAINSON'S HAWK: 5!!!!! (Yes, that's correct, FIVE. All of them dark birds. Obviously buteos with long wings with pronounced pointed wings. Slight dihedral. First was at 2:40pm followed by 2 together at 3:00pm. All three flew nnw. The 4th was flying high and flying due west. The 5th circled south of my yard and gained altitude before eventually flying north. 4th bird seen with Greg Johnson. 5th bird seen with Greg Johnson and Tim Shelmerdine. Keep your eyes to the sky for those northbound Swainson's Hawks! Jim -- Jim Danzenbaker Battle Ground, WA 360-702-9395 jdanzenbaker@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ednewbold1 at yahoo.com Sat May 1 21:02:01 2021 From: ednewbold1 at yahoo.com (Ed Newbold) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] The Warblers of Butyl Creek want you to watch the movie they made today References: <1814450958.229976.1619928121562.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1814450958.229976.1619928121562@mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, We had a fallout here on Butyl Creek today. Mostly Yellow-rumped Warblers, who knows how many, maybe 40, plus Warbling Vireos, Orange-crowned Warblers, Wilson's Warblers, a MacGillivray's Warbler, a Black-throated Gray Warbler, a Hermit Thrush, a Red-breasted Nuthatch and a Lincoln's Sparrow. Throw in a distant Red-tailed Hawk for 22 yardbirds. At one point we had 11 Warblers crowded into the creek at once. 7 are visible in stretch of the creek in the movie. (It's only 12 feet long so there aren't that many stretches.) We had the camcorder ready this time and I got all the Warblers, but missed most of the others. The exuberant bathing is set to music from Duane Eddy--Movin and Groovin--(thus the title of the movie) and Richard Freitas, Your Wicked Ways. Here is the link to the movie:? ? ? ?https://youtu.be/RQCRUAOC0t0 If it is broken, go to my website?http://www.ednewbold.com?and then go to sightings, 1st blog. Thanks all, Ed Newbold? (and Delia Scholes) ednewbold1@yahoo.com Beacon Hill, Seattle One other thing. I have a question. What's going on with Robinson Canyon, (a long east-west canyon west of Ellensburg.)? That used to be our go-to spot east of the crest but I see no one has e-birded it in a year and a half. Is there a closure, or are there too many shooters or what? Thanks in advance, I think others might be interested if anyone knows. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mostly Yellow-rumped Warblers, who knows how many, maybe 40, plus Warbling Vireos, Orange-crowned Warblers, Wilson's Warblers, a MacGillivray's Warbler, a Black-throated Gray Warbler, a Hermit Thrush, a Red-breasted Nuthatch and a Lincoln's Sparrow. Throw in a distant Red-tailed Hawk for 22 yardbirds. > > At one point we had 11 Warblers crowded into the creek at once. 7 are visible in stretch of the creek in the movie. (It's only 12 feet long so there aren't that many stretches.) > > We had the camcorder ready this time and I got all the Warblers, but missed most of the others. > > The exuberant bathing is set to music from Duane Eddy--Movin and Groovin--(thus the title of the movie) and Richard Freitas, Your Wicked Ways. > > > > Here is the link to the movie: https://youtu.be/RQCRUAOC0t0 > > > > > > > If it is broken, go to my website http://www.ednewbold.com and then go to sightings, 1st blog. > > > > Thanks all, > > > Ed Newbold (and Delia Scholes) ednewbold1@yahoo.com Beacon Hill, Seattle > > > One other thing. I have a question. What's going on with Robinson Canyon, (a long east-west canyon west of Ellensburg.) That used to be our go-to spot east of the crest but I see no one has e-birded it in a year and a half. Is there a closure, or are there too many shooters or what? > > Thanks in advance, I think others might be interested if anyone knows. > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjm284 at gmail.com Sun May 2 09:55:43 2021 From: rjm284 at gmail.com (Ryan Merrill) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Red-naped Sapsucker at Carkeek Message-ID: There has been an adult male Red-naped Sapsucker hanging out in the orchard at Carkeek Park in Seattle for the past 20 minutes. It?s moving around a lot but seems to like it here. Ryan Merrill Seattle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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While Barred Owls might be considered the primary characters there are also some appearances by a Common Raven and a Cooper?s Hawk. Enjoy! https://unionbaywatch.blogspot.com/2021/05/surprised.html Have a great day on Union Bay?where nature lives in the city and Black Birders are welcome! Larry Hubbell ldhubbell at comcast dot net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cariddellwa at gmail.com Sun May 2 18:08:23 2021 From: cariddellwa at gmail.com (Carol Riddell) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Edmonds Roundup - April 2021 Message-ID: Hi Tweets, April is always a big month for new species. Last year I reported April?s birds by abundance code. This year I am offering them up by date so that those interested can quickly see the earliest date in Edmonds of an April arrival. April 1: Violet-green Swallow (code 1) at Edmonds marsh. April 2: Savannah Sparrow (code 2) at Water Street; Peregrine Falcon (code 3) at Water Street. April 3: Barn Swallow (code 1) at Edmonds marsh. April 6: Turkey Vulture (code 3) in the Pine Ridge neighborhood. April 8: Greater Scaup (code 2) on the waterfront. April 10: American Kestrel (code 4) in the Westgate neighborhood. April 11: Northern Rough-winged Swallow (code 3), Common Yellowthroat (code 3), both at Edmonds marsh. April 14: Brown-headed Cowbird (code 2), American Pipit (code 3), both at Edmonds marsh. April 16: Least Sandpiper (code 1) at Edmonds marsh, Black-throated Gray Warbler (code 2) at Yost Park, Snow Goose (code 3) at Pine Ridge Park (an overflight). April 18: Black Oystercatcher (code 4) on the waterfront. April 20: Lesser Yellowlegs (code 4) at Edmonds marsh, Chipping Sparrow (code 4) in the Edmonds Lake Ballinger neighborhood, Franklin?s Gull (code 4) and Long-tailed Duck (code 3) on the waterfront. April 22: Spotted Sandpiper (code 3) at Edmonds marsh, Warbling Vireo (code 2) at Chase Lake. April 23: Western Sandpiper (code 1) at Edmonds marsh. April 25: Whimbrel (code 3) on the waterfront. April 28: American White Pelican (code 4), Edmonds overflight, Yellow Warbler (code 2) at Yost Park. April 29: Pacific-slope Flycatcher (code 2) and Wilson?s Warbler (code 1) in Yost Park. April 30: Western Meadowlark (code 3) at Edmonds marsh, Yellow-headed Blackbird (code 3) at Marina Beach. Interesting additional sightings: A pair of California Quails were seen along 100th Ave W, between the Edmonds Memorial Cemetery and Elm Way on 4-22. This is in the vicinity of a report of this species about this time last year. There was a skein of Snow Geese heading north over the Sound on April 19th. There were two separate eBird reports of Ring-billed Gull on the waterfront. Neither had a photo or a description of field marks observed so we continue to leave this very uncommon Edmonds species off of our year list. If you think you are seeing a Ring-billed Gull in Edmonds and you use eBird, please describe the field marks specific enough to distinguish it from an immature Mew or California Gull or get a photo. Either would be so helpful. We have 144 species on our 2021 year list as of April 30. I am always grateful to those of you who share your Edmonds sightings with me. It helps us keep an accurate track of our year birds and our rare birds. Thank you! If you would like a copy of our 2021 city checklist, please request it at checklistedmonds@gmail.com . Good birding, Carol Riddell Edmonds, WA Abundance codes: (1) Common, (2) Uncommon, (3) Harder to find, usually seen annually, (4) Rare, 5+ records, (5) Fewer than 5 records -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, I suspect that the gluttonous slaughter of European Turtle Doves by Arab hunters on the Red Sea littoral might be even worse than the carnage wrought by the Italians, Maltese, and so forth.? Quite a few years ago, I read a factoid about this. As I recall, it was stated that the number of Turtle Doves trapped annually on just a few small islands in the southern Red Sea was equivalent to the entire year's production of fledged offspring from northeastern Europe. The hunters on those Red Sea islands still use bird-lime and other ancient methods to capture the hapless migrants that make the mistake of landing there. When I lived in Arabia, I was horrified to experience the Turtle-Dove hunt firsthand. Each autumn, the dove-hunters in Yanbu, Saudi Arabia gear up. They are usually armed with pellet guns and small-bore shotguns, or the occasional twenty-two. They drive along in beat-up sedans and pickups, plinking at anything that moves, even in urban parks. They shoot just about every species of bird that comes their way. I watched them shooting at Greater Spotted Eagles, Black-crowned Night Herons, Bee-eaters, Squacco Herons, and so forth. Most of the birds are just left dead on the sand, to be picked up by crows, gulls, and kites. Even species that are specifically identified as not being halal, such as the Roller, are shot. The Rollers are "harvested" because the Arab men believe that certain internal organs of that bird can be used as aphrodisiacs--although the consumption of these birds is proscribed in their own scriptures. They call the Turtle Doves "gumri" there. They have a saying, something like, "Gumri, al-yumri," which I think means something like "Turtle Doves are my beloved." One of the parks in Yanbu is even named after the Turtle Dove.? I used to make a game out of spotting my first Turtle Dove before spotting my first Turtle-Dove hunter. It took me a few years to accomplish that goal. 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What do you think from the (hopefully) attached video?? Any other talking crow stories? file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/73/03/4076B3EC-36C3-4FD7-99EE-BD47AB34B6C7/MOV_5243.mov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jemskink at gmail.com Mon May 3 07:51:30 2021 From: jemskink at gmail.com (Joan Miller) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Incredible Barred Owl Show! Message-ID: Tweets, What a night last night. A pair of barred owls put on quite a show for me and my neighbors. Next to Camp Long, it started out with a low soft hooting. I went out on my deck to listen. The owl was in a tree right at the edge of the park. The soft calling went on for a little while. Soon I heard what I assumed was its mate begin hooting back from a short distance away. They continued to hoot. All of a sudden I heard it very close, and looked up to see the second owl had landed atop a telephone pole right in front of me, next to my house. I stood silently watching and listening. The one on the pole looked so big and chunky. It was amazing. Then they started their VERY loud raucous "monkey" babbling back and forth. Woweee, was it loud! It was like a nature show. The one from the tree flew out toward us and went past to the south, right by my neighbor's house. The one on the pole didn't move. Pretty soon the other returned, flying right near us. The wingspan made it look huge. I wasn't sure what was going to happen. Was "she" going to land? Were they going to mate right in front of me? She kept flying back to her tree. The one on the pole still didn't move. They continued calling and babbling. I saw my neighbors go over toward the tree to watch. Finally, the one on the pole flew into the tree to join its mate. I went out to chat with my neighbors. "Wasn't that cool?" Our mouths were open. What a spine-tingling experience. I'm more in awe of our owls now than ever. That was the treat of a lifetime. Paul Bannick, I'm sure you're nodding your head. Yep, owls are awesome! I'd love to know more about that behavior. Were they courting, just bonding, or saying hello? Joan Miller West Seattle jemskink at gmail dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valhikes at gmail.com Mon May 3 08:02:22 2021 From: valhikes at gmail.com (Valerie Anderson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] FOY Black-headed Grosbeak Message-ID: First of the year male Black-headed is at my feeder this morning. Yesterday we had some Evening Grosbeaks. Valerie Anderson Olympia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From acunha5112 at gmail.com Mon May 3 13:47:36 2021 From: acunha5112 at gmail.com (Anne C) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Breakfast with red crossbills Message-ID: Amazingly, a flock of approx 30 red crossbills dropped into our front yard birdbath this morning. Stayed for a couple of minutes and were on their way. Not the first time we?ve hosted red crossbills but it?s been a while and never this large a number. Fabulous! Anne & Judy Lynnwood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.seiferth at icloud.com Mon May 3 15:26:01 2021 From: john.seiferth at icloud.com (John Seiferth) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] PNW Big Day Strategy Message-ID: <9139A90E-8C29-4279-ADBC-D8C194A4B4FD@icloud.com> Tweeters, Long-time lurker, first-time poster. If you were scheduling a Big Day in the PNW, what locations would you include? I am a novice and relatively new to WA (~3.5 years) so I?d love to hear where the more experienced locals would go to rack up the sightings in a 24 hour period. Also, if there is a non-list-based resource you know of, send that along. Don?t want to cause a reply storm if it can be avoided. Cheers! John Seiferth Queen Anne->Seattle From mattxyz at earthlink.net Tue May 4 06:01:18 2021 From: mattxyz at earthlink.net (Matt Bartels) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Washington Bird Records Committee recent decisions (Spring 2021 interim packet & meeting) Message-ID: Hi Tweeters & INWBirders - Thursday, April 22, 2021, the Washington Bird Records Committee met via Zoom for a spring meeting. Normally, the spring packet of reports is only voted on remotely, with reports receiving mixed votes held-over until the annual Fall meeting. The ability to meet over Zoom allowed the committee to deliberate over these reports sooner this year. Results are also posted online at: https://wos.org/records/votingsummary/spring-2021/ Here?s a summary of our results. 29 reports were accepted as valid new records. 1 additional record was accepted as continuing sightings of a record previously accepted at an earlier meeting. 8 reports were not accepted. 1 additional report was re-reviewed, resulting in no change to the original decision. The WBRC accepted one species new to the state list: Winter Wren This brings the official Washington State Checklist to 521 species, including 508 species fully accredited (supported by specimen, photograph, or recording) and 13 species which are sight-only records (supported only by written documentation). Key: Votes in parentheses (# accepted ? # not accepted ? # abstain) [Notations: p=photo, v = video, a = audio, s = sketch] ACCEPTED RECORDS: EMGO-2020-1, Emperor Goose - 3 Nov 2020, Snively Rd., 2 mi NW of W. Richland, Benton County. Nick Hoffard [w, p] (6-1-0). BESW-2019-2, "Bewick's" Tundra Swan (C.c. bewickii) - 20 Jan - 23 Feb 2019, Skagit WMA, North Fork Access, Skagit County. Adrian Lee [p], Ryan Merrill [p] (7-0-0). BESW-2021-1, "Bewick's" Tundra Swan (C.c. bewickii) - 17 Feb 2021, Vancouver Lowlands, Vancouver, Clark County. Jim Danzenbaker [w], Randy Hill [w], Cindy McCormack [w] (7-0-0). UPSA-2005-1, Upland Sandpiper - 11 Aug 2005, Deming Homesteader Road, Whatcom County. Wayne Weber [w] (7-0-0). LIGU-2020-1, Little Gull - 16-17 Oct 2020, Point No Point, Hansville, Kitsap County. Brad Waggoner [w, p], Jason Vassallo [p] (7-0-0). SBGU-2020-2, Slaty-backed Gull - 28-29 Oct 2020, Cape Alava, Clallam County. Eric Heisey [w, p], Shep Thorp [w, p, v] (7-0-0). SBGU-2021-1, Slaty-backed Gull - 4 Jan 2021, Carruthers Slough, Pacific County. Will Brooks [w, p] (7-0-0). SNEG-2020-3, Snowy Egret - 4 Dec 2020 - 19 Jan 2021, Lower River Road, Vancouver, Clark County. Jordan Gunn [p], Tom O'Callahan [p] (7-0-0). WTKI-2020-1, White-tailed Kite - 21-22 Dec 2020, Willow Grove, Longview, Cowlitz County. Randy Hill [w, p], Becky Kent [w, p], Shep Thorp [w, p] (7-0-0). NOTE: The committee agreed that these two records likely represent different individual White-tailed Kites. WTKI-2020-2, White-tailed Kite - 29 Dec 2020 - 27 Feb 2021, Puget Island, Cathlamet, Wahkiakum County. Rachel Hudson [w, p], Dalton Spencer [w, p], Margaret Snell [p] (7-0-0). NOTE: The committee agreed that these two records likely represent different individual White-tailed Kites. YBSA-2020-2, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 4 Dec 2020 - 1 Feb 2021, Jackson Elementary School area, Everett, Snohomish County. Amanda Colbert [p], Dick Holcomb [p], Teri Martine [p], Dennis Paulson [p], David Poortinga [p], Netta Smith [p], Gregg Thompson [p] (7-0-0). YBSA-2020-3, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 6 Dec 2020 - 17 Feb 2021, 19th St., Fall City, King County. Carl Haynie [w, p], Dalton Spencer [w, p], Nadine Drisseq [p], Mason Maron [p], Kazuto Shibata [p, v], Jason Vassallo [p] (7-0-0). YBSA-2021-1, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 5 Jan 2021, Dixie, Walla Walla County. Larry Goodhew [w, p] (7-0-0). WIWR-2021-1, Winter Wren - 8-27 Jan 2021, West Orting Farms, Orting, Pierce County. Will Brooks [w, p, a], Ed Pullen [w, p, a], Bill Tweit [w], Brad Waggoner [w, p, a], Jordan Gunn [p], Liam Hutcheson [p], Ryan J Merrill [p, a] (7-0-0). NOTE: State first record. BRTH-2020-2, Brown Thrasher - 13 Oct 2020, Palatine Ave. N., Seattle, King County. Kelly Forsyth [w] (7-0-0). WHWA-2020-1, White Wagtail (?Black-backed? M.a. lugens) - 14-15 Oct 2020, Alki Beach, West Seattle, King County. Sam Fason [w, p], John Puschock [w, p], Greg Harrington [p] (Species ID: 7-0-0, Subspecies ID: lugens = 7 votes). PUFI-2020-1, "Eastern" Purple Finch (H.p. purpureus) - 27 Dec 2020 - 1 Jan 2021, Highland Park, Seattle, King County. Ryan Merrill [w, p] (7-0-0). PUFI-2021-1, "Eastern" Purple Finch (H.p. purpureus) - 22 Feb - 4 Mar 2021, Pine Bluff, Chatteroy, Spokane County. Andrew Thomas [w, p], Michael Woodruff [w, p], Marlene Cashen [p], Jacob Elonen [p], Jon Isacoff [p], Curtis Mahon [p], Mark Selle [p] (7-0-0). HORE-2020-2, Hoary Redpoll - 28 Nov 2020, Sun Lakes SP, Grant County. Ryan Merrill [w, p] (7-0-0). HOOR-2020-1, Hooded Oriole - 31 Dec 2020 - 1 Feb 2021, Bay Center, Pacific County. Rachel Hudson [w, p], Dalton Spencer [w, p], Bill Tweit [w], Jordan Gunn [p], Jordan Roderick [p] (7-0-0). COGR-2020-2, Common Grackle - 11 Dec 2020 - 3 Jan 2021, Neal Road, Fall City, King County. Matt Bartels [w], Alan Grenon [w], Carl Haynie [w], Mason Maron [w, p], Dalton Spencer [w, p], Sam Fason [p], Jordan Gunn [p] (7-0-0). COGR-2020-3, Common Grackle - 14-15 Dec 2020, south of Walla Walla, Walla Walla County. Mike & MerryLynn Denny[w], Jim Parrish [p] (7-0-0). COGR-2021-1, Common Grackle - 9-13 Jan 2021, 27600 78th Ave S. Kent, King County. Nadine Drisseq [w, p], Raphael Fennimore [w, p, v], John Puschock [p] (7-0-0). OVEN-2011-2, Ovenbird - 19 Jun 2011, Battleground, Clark County. Jim Danzenbaker [w] (7-0-0). BAWW-1984-1, Black-and-white Warbler - 13 Sep 1984, Billy J. Frank Nisqually NWR, Thurston County. Glenn Dunmire [w] (7-0-0). BAWW-1998-4, Black-and-White Warbler - 30 May 1998, Northrup Canyon, Grant County. Wayne Weber [w] (7-0-0). BTBW-2020-3, Black-throated Blue Warbler - 22 Dec 2020, SW Bank Rd., Vashon Island, King County. Gary Shugart [w, p] (7-0-0). PRAW-2020-1, Prairie Warbler - 3 Nov 2020, Kaiser Rd., Olympia, Thurston County. Liam Hutcheson [w, p] (7-0-0). PABU-2020-1, Painted Bunting - 30 Nov - 2 Dec 2020, Federal Ave, Everett, Snohomish County. Jay Gravelle [w], Bernadette Miklusicak [p] (7-0-0). RECORDS ACCEPTED AS CONTINUING SIGHTINGS OF PREVIOUSLY-ACCEPTED RECORDS: Slaty-backed Gull in Eastern Washington: The committee agreed that the December 2020 ? February 2021 record of a Slaty-backed Gull in Walla Walla, Benton and Franklin counties (formerly treated as SBGU-2020-3) is best treated as a returning instance of SBGU-2016-1, the prior sighting of this species in the area the previous four winters. The two records are merged and treated as SBGU-2016-1. Dates and observation info for December 2020 ? February 2021 occurrence: Slaty-backed Gull - 19 Oct 2020 - 8 Feb 2021, Leslie Groves Park, Richland, Carpet Island & Wallula, Benton, Franklin & Walla Walla County. Bill and Nancy LaFramboise [w, p], RJ Baltierra [p], Jason Fidorra [p] (7-0-0). REPORTS NOT ACCEPTED: LBMU-2020-1, Long-billed Murrelet - 10 Dec 2020, Discovery Park, Seattle, King County (0-7-0). ARLO-2020-1, Arctic Loon - 29-31 Dec 2020, Saltwater SP, Des Moines, King County (0-7-0). HORE-2020-1, Hoary Redpoll - 5 Nov 2020, S. Greystone Lane, Spokane, Spokane County (0-7-0). HORE-2021-1, Hoary Redpoll - 5 Feb 2021, Chesaw Rd., Oroville, Okanogan County (0-7-0). CCLO-2020-1, Chestnut-collared Longspur - 26 Oct 2020, Damon Point, Ocean Shores, Grays Harbor County (0-7-0). EATO-2021-1, Eastern Towhee - 13-21 Feb 2021, East Wenatchee, Douglas County (0-7-0). BAOR-2021-1, Baltimore Oriole - 1 Mar 2021, Moran Prairie, Spokane, Spokane County (0-7-0). COGR-2020-1, Common Grackle - 28 Oct 2020, Capitol Hill, Seattle, King County (0-7-0). OTHER DECISIONS: The committee re-reviewed a record of Orchard Oriole from Neah Bay, Clallam County. This Orchard Oriole record was observed from 26 Oct 2014 to 8 Apr 2015. The committee reexamined this record in light of its long presence, and in light of the recent example of multiple Orchard Orioles being present in one season (see the fall 2020 meeting acceptance of six individuals from Sep ? Dec 2019). On review, the committee agreed that there was no definitive evidence of multiple individuals and the record remains as originally published (7-0-0). 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It was refreshing, after the negative political press to find every body in offices and businesses firmly wearing masks and being most friendly. The bad news was that the Umtanum Ridge road was devasted by fire. All the way to Umtanum Falls was much blackened or just plain not there. Only the Quaking Aspen were regenerating from the roots. And several pretty lithosol plants were blooming. Only Mountain Bluebirds , not Western were present and many other species had not yet arrived. The Potholes area also had some fire damage and quite a few important bird species were not back yet. No phalaropes seemingly, but the Avocets and Black-necked Stilts were in several watery locations. Heading up Hwy 17, between Moses Lake and Soap Lake there was still a Burrowing Owl to be found, perched on a white-washed rock. The highlight of the trip, was using our navigation device & getting lost in the rocky prairies north of HWY 2. It was thrilling to see Sage Thrasher breeding display, they perched on rocks and rapidly vibrating their wing tips. Eventually we staggered out of the back country to find the lodge at Jameson Lake burned down. But as we had hoped, many red-colored duck species were there, with male Ruddy Ducks a fiery red. With a lovely, tranquil exit through Moses Coulee and only a bried assault by ticks, we headed back to the park and our weeding and watering. Oh and the apples in Ellensburg were great. David Hutchinson, 206-499 7305 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Records note: Loggerhead Shrikes have been seen at the Fill before in the spring, but not according to any pattern I can identify: May 25, 1975; April 10, 1989; March 31, 2004; April 12, 2008; March 4 and 5, 2009; April 5, 2011. Also reported: Yellow Warblers at a couple of different spots, including near Main Pond and in Yesler Swamp. - Connie Sidles, Seattle constancesidles@gmail.co m -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From natural.world.explorer at gmail.com Tue May 4 12:04:42 2021 From: natural.world.explorer at gmail.com (LARRY BAXTER) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] FOY: Black-headed Grosbeaks Message-ID: The FOY Black-headed Grosbeaks male and female showed up at our bird feeders this morning on north Camano Island. Since 2014, they have arrived at our feeders every year from April 27 to May 5th. Larry Baxter Mthiker57 at gmail dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zoramon at mac.com Tue May 4 12:09:02 2021 From: zoramon at mac.com (Zora Monster) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Escape to "Eastern" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94773E2E-BE13-4971-B39C-7D6A07FC7067@mac.com> This report could not have been more timely. My husband and I are headed east today, and Umtanum Falls was on our list. Thank you for the update. Zora Dermer Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2021, at 9:48 AM, David Hutchinson wrote: > > ? > After 18 months of being pinned down, pulling weeds in Discovery Park, > Kris Baker and I decided to escape over the mountains for the May Day weekend. > It was refreshing, after the negative political press > to find every body in offices and businesses firmly wearing masks > and being most friendly. The bad news was that the Umtanum > Ridge road was devasted by fire. All the way to Umtanum Falls was > much blackened or just plain not there. Only the Quaking Aspen were > regenerating from the roots. And several pretty lithosol plants were blooming. > Only Mountain Bluebirds , not Western were present and many other species had > not yet arrived. > The Potholes area also had some fire damage and quite a few important > bird species were not back yet. No phalaropes seemingly, but the Avocets and > Black-necked Stilts were in several watery locations. Heading up Hwy 17, between > Moses Lake and Soap Lake there was still a Burrowing Owl to be found, perched > on a white-washed rock. > The highlight of the trip, was using our navigation device & getting lost in the rocky > prairies north of HWY 2. It was thrilling to see Sage Thrasher breeding display, > they perched on rocks and rapidly vibrating their wing tips. Eventually we staggered > out of the back country to find the lodge at Jameson Lake burned down. But as we > had hoped, many red-colored duck species were there, with male Ruddy Ducks a > fiery red. > With a lovely, tranquil exit through Moses Coulee and only a bried assault by ticks, > we headed back to the park and our weeding and watering. Oh and the apples > in Ellensburg were great. > David Hutchinson, 206-499 7305 > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It includes: * Four general interest articles covering diversity and inclusion in birding, habitat change, and birding highlights from all 39 Washington counties. * Seven articles with updates, analysis, and expanded knowledge on regularly occurring species covering topics such as the end of the Northwestern Crow as a distinct species and the "Western Flycatcher" problem in Washington. * Eleven articles providing species accounts for fourteen species new to the Washington State list since 2005, when the latest Birds of Washington State by Wahl et al. came out. * The Eleventh Report of the Washington Bird Records Committee (WBRC), previously printed in Western Birds. I hope you enjoy the knowledge and expertise of the contributors to this work, Ed Swan, editor Ed Swan Nature writer and guide www.theswancompany.com edswan2@comcast.net 206.949.3545 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best wishes, Dennis > On May 4, 2021, at 1:05 PM, edswan2@comcast.net wrote: > > The latest issue of Washington Birds, Volume 13, published in April 2021, is now available for viewing online: Washington Birds Volume 13 (April 2021) ? Washington Ornithological Society (wos.org) . > > Washington Birds is the journal of the Washington Ornithological Society (WOS). > > Volume 13 of Washington Birds packs a lot of information about birds and birding in Washington State in 183 pages. It includes: > > ? Four general interest articles covering diversity and inclusion in birding, habitat change, and birding highlights from all 39 Washington counties. > ? Seven articles with updates, analysis, and expanded knowledge on regularly occurring species covering topics such as the end of the Northwestern Crow as a distinct species and the ?Western Flycatcher? problem in Washington. > ? Eleven articles providing species accounts for fourteen species new to the Washington State list since 2005, when the latest Birds of Washington State by Wahl et al. came out. > ? The Eleventh Report of the Washington Bird Records Committee (WBRC), previously printed in Western Birds. > > I hope you enjoy the knowledge and expertise of the contributors to this work, > > Ed Swan, editor > > Ed Swan > Nature writer and guide > www.theswancompany.com > edswan2@comcast.net > 206.949.3545 > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If I see a post of a formal date, I will pass it along. > > Scott Downes > Downess@charter.net > Yakima Wa > >> On Apr 30, 2021, at 1:34 AM, Dan Reiff wrote: >> >> ?Tweeters, >> The Umptanum parking lot and bridge are currently closed at the entrance, for repairs to the parking lot and bridge. >> It has been closed for at least a few weeks and I do not know when it will reopen. >> I wanted to get the word out about the closure so no one drives over there and disappointed they can?t enter. >> Dan Reiff >> MI >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From avnacrs4birds at outlook.com Tue May 4 20:10:10 2021 From: avnacrs4birds at outlook.com (Denis DeSilvis) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] FOY Black-headed Grosbeak at Roy Message-ID: Hey Tweeters, Today a Black-headed Grosbeak showed up feeding several times on a suet feeder next to the house (photo on eBird). 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Joe Sweeney sweeneyfit at Mac dot com Sent from my iPhone From mercator1948 at comcast.net Wed May 5 09:58:44 2021 From: mercator1948 at comcast.net (Scott Morrison) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Nisqually 5-4-2021 Message-ID: <1898511529.69475.1620233924566@connect.xfinity.com> Highlights of today at Nisqually were: 8 Greater White-fronted Geese 5 Whimbrel being harassed by Ring-billed Gulls Hooded Merganser female with 8 ducklings 1 Sora Scott Morrison Lacey WA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christysway at gmail.com Wed May 5 13:41:50 2021 From: christysway at gmail.com (Christy) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Scope for sale Message-ID: Leica Televid APO straight scope and tripod. 20 x 60 zoom eyepiece. Comes with Bogan micro fluid head, Bogen car window clamp. Also an Eagle Optics carry case for the scope and a carry bag with handle and shoulder strap which holds scope and tripod. The tripod is heavy, but it doesn't blow over! All in great shape. Asking $1500 for everything. I have photos to send, if you're interested. Local only please. No shipping. I'm in Issaquah. Can meet you within reasonable distance. Send me an email. Christy Anderson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ksnyder75 at gmail.com Wed May 5 15:25:46 2021 From: ksnyder75 at gmail.com (Kathleen Snyder) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] (Another) Vesper Sparrow near Tenino Message-ID: >From Paul Hicks: Tweets, Today I stumbled upon a Vesper Sparrow at 2400 180th Ave SW, off the Bucoda Hwy/SR 507. It was not singing, but happened to walk right in front of me. It was at the edge of a tree farm along with four other sparrow species. Other FOS finds in the area: Hermit & Yellow Warbler, Warbling Vireo, Canada Jay, Pacific-slope Flycatcher, Black-headed Grosbeak. Good birding! 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URL: From RichardAWalker at outlook.com Wed May 5 18:25:08 2021 From: RichardAWalker at outlook.com (Richard Walker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Yellow-Headed Blackbird at KGY Message-ID: Hi All, Just saw a female Yellow-Headed Blackbird feeding on the grassy area near one of the benches at KGY Point, Olympia. Lifer for me. Richard Walker Sent from Outlook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elstonh at yahoo.com Wed May 5 19:11:07 2021 From: elstonh at yahoo.com (Elston Hill) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Arctic Terns at Des Moines Marina References: <94874A6C-B53D-4759-A26B-F99FF6811740.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <94874A6C-B53D-4759-A26B-F99FF6811740@yahoo.com> Ten days ago and again today at low tide, there was a flock of arctic terns on the gravel bar at the Des Moines Marina at the mouth of Des Moines Creek. They did some fishing and flew right over the pier. From mcallisters4 at comcast.net Wed May 5 21:08:31 2021 From: mcallisters4 at comcast.net (mcallisters4@comcast.net) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Yellow-Headed Blackbird at KGY In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <025f01d7422d$7a3eda60$6ebc8f20$@comcast.net> Yeah, I just saw the comment on the Western Washington Facebook site about Yellow-headed Blackbirds becoming "increasingly rare" north of Ridgefield. What? They were more common here in the past? I've lived in Olympia my entire life and have never seen one here. I'd say, in a David Byrne kind of way.. Rare as it ever was. Kelly McAllister From: Tweeters On Behalf Of Richard Walker Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:25 PM To: tweeters@u.washington.edu Subject: [Tweeters] Yellow-Headed Blackbird at KGY Hi All, Just saw a female Yellow-Headed Blackbird feeding on the grassy area near one of the benches at KGY Point, Olympia. Lifer for me. Richard Walker Sent from Outlook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schasecredo at gmail.com Wed May 5 21:32:49 2021 From: schasecredo at gmail.com (Stephen) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Yellow-Headed Blackbird at KGY In-Reply-To: <025f01d7422d$7a3eda60$6ebc8f20$@comcast.net> References: <025f01d7422d$7a3eda60$6ebc8f20$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7AEC77F3-3436-4C98-8701-38BE486AA9D0@gmail.com> Hi Kelly, I made that comment, and you misunderstood it. Someone mentioned that they see them all the time at Ridgefield. My point was simply that as you go north from Ridgefield in Western Washington, they become much more difficult to find, thus Richard?s find in Olympia is noteworthy even if a sighting at Ridgefield isn?t. The comment was not a reference to their status and distribution in the past. All the best, Stephen Chase > On May 5, 2021, at 9:09 PM, mcallisters4@comcast.net wrote: > > ? > Yeah, I just saw the comment on the Western Washington Facebook site about Yellow-headed Blackbirds becoming ?increasingly rare? north of Ridgefield. What? They were more common here in the past? I?ve lived in Olympia my entire life and have never seen one here. I?d say, in a David Byrne kind of way?. Rare as it ever was. > > Kelly McAllister > > From: Tweeters On Behalf Of Richard Walker > Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:25 PM > To: tweeters@u.washington.edu > Subject: [Tweeters] Yellow-Headed Blackbird at KGY > > Hi All, > Just saw a female Yellow-Headed Blackbird feeding on the grassy area near one of the benches at KGY Point, Olympia. > Lifer for me. > Richard Walker > > Sent from Outlook > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birder at pottersaylor.com Wed May 5 21:43:51 2021 From: birder at pottersaylor.com (Mary Saylor) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] RFI: Favorite King County and WA hawkwatching spots? Message-ID: Hi folks, Are there particularly good locations for watching migrating hawks in King County? Or Washington in general? You hear of mountain ridges and other places around the country where people gather to watch migrating hawks, but I haven?t heard of a place like that here. Of course a good wide view of the sky is a must, but I imagine thermals and geography also come into play. I?ve had some random hawk-watching good luck this year finding Swainson?s Hawks in a parking lot and a field? I don?t know that those spots were particularly special except for boredom, a wide view of the sky, and in the first case, being with an expert birder. I?m looking to hawk watch on purpose tomorrow and taking suggestions. Montlake Fill (UBNA), Ravenna Park, maybe a clearing or ridge in the foothills? Mary Saylor Issaquah From mcallisters4 at comcast.net Wed May 5 22:03:13 2021 From: mcallisters4 at comcast.net (mcallisters4@comcast.net) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Yellow-Headed Blackbird at KGY In-Reply-To: <7AEC77F3-3436-4C98-8701-38BE486AA9D0@gmail.com> References: <025f01d7422d$7a3eda60$6ebc8f20$@comcast.net> <7AEC77F3-3436-4C98-8701-38BE486AA9D0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <027701d74235$1f696620$5e3c3260$@comcast.net> O.K. I get it now, increasing rarity with distance from Ridgefield, rather than increasingly rare on a temporally. Sorry about the mistinterpretation. Kelly From: Stephen Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:33 PM To: mcallisters4@comcast.net Cc: Richard Walker ; tweeters@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Yellow-Headed Blackbird at KGY Hi Kelly, I made that comment, and you misunderstood it. Someone mentioned that they see them all the time at Ridgefield. My point was simply that as you go north from Ridgefield in Western Washington, they become much more difficult to find, thus Richard?s find in Olympia is noteworthy even if a sighting at Ridgefield isn?t. The comment was not a reference to their status and distribution in the past. All the best, Stephen Chase On May 5, 2021, at 9:09 PM, mcallisters4@comcast.net wrote: ? Yeah, I just saw the comment on the Western Washington Facebook site about Yellow-headed Blackbirds becoming ?increasingly rare? north of Ridgefield. What? They were more common here in the past? I?ve lived in Olympia my entire life and have never seen one here. I?d say, in a David Byrne kind of way?. Rare as it ever was. Kelly McAllister From: Tweeters > On Behalf Of Richard Walker Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:25 PM To: tweeters@u.washington.edu Subject: [Tweeters] Yellow-Headed Blackbird at KGY Hi All, Just saw a female Yellow-Headed Blackbird feeding on the grassy area near one of the benches at KGY Point, Olympia. Lifer for me. Richard Walker Sent from Outlook _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sowersalexander1 at gmail.com Thu May 6 07:07:30 2021 From: sowersalexander1 at gmail.com (Xander Sowers) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] =?utf-8?q?Franklin=E2=80=99s_Gulls_=40_Montclair_Fill?= Message-ID: A flock of 5 or so FRANKLIN?S GULLS just flew over the Montlake Fill headed SW towards the Cut. 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Dan Reiff Flock of giant California condors trash woman's home Giant California condors are rare, but not at Cinda Mickols? home Read in ABC News: https://apple.news/AM-BcRmfHR8G9-8cWrRh4lA Shared from Apple News Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mombiwheeler at gmail.com Thu May 6 13:29:38 2021 From: mombiwheeler at gmail.com (Lonnie Somer) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] ABC NEWS: Flock of giant California condors trash woman's home In-Reply-To: <40E9ED75-7F06-4931-BCE7-DDA637FC10F4@gmail.com> References: <40E9ED75-7F06-4931-BCE7-DDA637FC10F4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mine too! That would be a cool yard bird species. Lonnie Somer Seattle On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:04 PM Dan Reiff wrote: > Tweeters, > They are welcome at my home! > Dan Reiff > > *Flock of giant California condors trash woman's home* > Giant California condors are rare, but not at Cinda Mickols? home > > Read in ABC News: https://apple.news/AM-BcRmfHR8G9-8cWrRh4lA > > > Shared from Apple News > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birdmarymoor at gmail.com Thu May 6 14:43:21 2021 From: birdmarymoor at gmail.com (birdmarymoor@gmail.com) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Marymoor Park (Redmond, King Co.) 2021-05-06 Message-ID: <9781258A087242F8B9507ABEE1BE8D76@DESKTOPER2GUVC> Tweets ? Today is the last day of Week 18*, the week of the year with the greatest diversity of birds at Marymoor over the years (at least 148 species!), so we were expecting a good day today. Despite the unsettled weather (variable winds, occasional drizzle-squalls, one bout of hail), things really weren?t too bad. The birds did seem to be slow in getting active today, but things definitely picked up. Quite a day. We again split into two groups, traveling in opposite directions. Highlights: a.. CINNAMON TEAL ? Male in slough, and seen at the lake. This, and next week, are the best weeks of the year for this species at Marymoor b.. Northern Shoveler ? about 2 dozen in a mixed flock of ducks far out on the lake c.. Green-winged Teal ? getting late for them, but still quite a few d.. Common Goldeneye ? our group had a flyby bird ? 2nd latest ever spring sighting e.. MOURNING DOVE ? Jordan?s group had four; my group had only one, First of Year (FOY) f.. Great Horned Owl ? Matt saw one predawn (FOY) g.. Merlin ? both groups saw one h.. WESTERN KINGBIRD ? Jordan?s group saw two over near the Model Airplane Field i.. SWAINSON?S THRUSH ? Matt heard them doing two different calls, predawn (FOY) j.. Western Meadowlark ? my group had one north of Fields 7-8-9 k.. BULLOCK?S ORIOLE ? at least 3, including both males and a female (FOY) l.. NASHVILLE WARBLER ? Jordan?s team saw one near the Dog Area portapotties (FOY) m.. Western Tanager ? pretty good showing for both groups n.. BLACK-HEADED GROSBEAK ? several singing males (FOY) Combined, we had a SEVEN WARBLER DAY, with Orange-crowned, Nashville, Common Yellowthroat, Yellow, Yellow-rumped (both Myrtle and Audubon?s), Black-throated Gray, and Wilson?s Warblers. >From the Lake Platform, we saw a large, distant, mixed flock of ducks on the lake. We were able to pick out quite a few male NORTHERN SHOVELER, but I was eager to see if I could scope this flock after the walk. It was a bit of a shocker. The flock totaled about 72 birds: a.. Northern Shoveler ~ 25 b.. Gadwall ~ 12 c.. EURASIAN WIGEON ? 1 male, ONLY OUR 2nd EVER AT MARYMOOR (FOY) d.. American Wigeon ~ 12 e.. Green-winged Teal ~ 10 f.. LESSER SCAUP ~ 12 ? Latest spring sighting ever I also had two HORNED GREBE, latest spring sighting ever, and two GLAUCOUS-WINGED GULLS. Tuesday, just 2 days ago, I went to Marymoor for 4 hours starting at 9 a.m., and found NINE SPECIES WE DIDN?T SEE TODAY! a.. Rock Pigeon ? two b.. Vaux?s Swift ? about 10 c.. Virginia Rail ? adult and a tiny black fluff ball baby along the boardwalk d.. American Coot ? just one; last until fall? e.. LEAST SANDPIPER ? two below the weir f.. Wilson?s Snipe ? one below the weir; last until fall? g.. GREATER YELLOWLEGS ? one below the weir h.. COMMON LOON ? one on the lake i.. Lincoln?s Sparrow ? two Misses today, besides Rock Pigeon, Vaux?s Swift and Lincoln?s Sparrow, were Hooded Merganser, Pied-billed Grebe, Green Heron, Belted Kingfisher, and Cliff Swallow. Today, Jordan?s team had 58 species. Mine had 69. Adding in the predawn birds and the birds I found on the late scan of the lake, and we had a COMBINED 81 SPECIES for the day! Dan Bormann photographed a YELLOW-HEADED BLACKBIRD yesterday, and I had the nine additional species on Tuesday. eBird shows a few more sightings, so definitely more than 90 species at Marymoor THIS WEEK. With seven new species today, our year list is at 130, I believe. * New Years Day is Day 1 of Week 1 in my reckoning. Calendar weeks aren?t comparable year-to-year, since if the year starts on Saturday, Week 1 has just one day. 2021 started on a Friday, so we?re just finishing Week 18 today. = Michael Hobbs = www.marymoor.org/birding.htm = BirdMarymoor@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From csdesilets at comcast.net Thu May 6 15:57:37 2021 From: csdesilets at comcast.net (Charles Desilets) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Gilded Flicker or hybrid seen on my backyard on birdbath Message-ID: <019601d742cb$35f82c50$a1e884f0$@comcast.net> Tweeters: I was stunned to see a flicker with a bright yellow crown and nape on May 1, 2021. I was in my house and looked up to see this bird on my birdbath at 9:05 AM. I haven't posted this earlier but I've been researching flicker species to find out what it was. Unfortunately, the bird flew off after a few seconds after I moved a little . What struck me was the bright yellow crown and nape which is indicative of a Gilded Flicker. I was able to observe the gray face, red malar, and black breastband, but not the underside of the wings or back. The yellow crown and nape seemed very much of a Gilded Flicker way out of its' range. The only other suspect bird seems to be a Northern Red-shafted Flicker/Gilded Flicker hybrid. The bird has not been seen again over the past week. No photos. I keep waiting. CD in Mukilteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marvbreece at q.com Thu May 6 16:40:23 2021 From: marvbreece at q.com (Marv Breece) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] birds Message-ID: <1554768186.1107318.1620344423913.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com> Yesterday I thought I heard the grumbling of an oriole in Tukwila, so today I set out to find one for certain. Found a female BULLOCK'S ORIOLE at Fort Dent Park in Tukwila, along the river just after crossing the bridge at the entrance to the park. This has been a reliable oriole spot in the past. Also, there was a lone SEMIPALMATED PLOVER at M Street, near Emerald Downs in Auburn. I did not see it at the big pond. It was in the flooded field before (south of) the big pond. At times the bird disappeared in the "rough" beyond the water. Marv Breece Tukwila, WA marvbreece@q.com Pbase Images : https://www.pbase.com/marvbreece Flickr Videos : https://www.flickr.com/photos/138163614@N02/ Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHbkNzr4TaZ6ZBWfoJNvavw/featured -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krothnelson at yahoo.com Thu May 6 16:40:57 2021 From: krothnelson at yahoo.com (krothnelson@yahoo.com) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Upcoming Presentation on the Birds of SE Peruvian Amazon! References: <1823146024.1432101.1620344457532.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1823146024.1432101.1620344457532@mail.yahoo.com> The Peruvian Amazon is one of the most biodiverse regions in the world, and thousands of species are distributed in this region! Unfortunately, many bird species and their habitats have been affected by deforestation, agriculture expansion, and illegal mining.Please join Skagit Audubon Society this?Tuesday, May 11, at 7:00 PM to hear UW Bothell professor?Dr. Ursula Valdez discuss her research findings focusing on avian community ecology, habitat use, and community-based conservation development in SE Peruvian Amazon.This is a free online event. Please register in advance at:?http://bit.ly/sasmay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That would be a cool yard bird species. > > Lonnie Somer > Seattle > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:04 PM Dan Reiff wrote: > >> Tweeters, >> They are welcome at my home! >> Dan Reiff >> >> *Flock of giant California condors trash woman's home* >> Giant California condors are rare, but not at Cinda Mickols? home >> >> Read in ABC News: https://apple.news/AM-BcRmfHR8G9-8cWrRh4lA >> >> >> Shared from Apple News >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From natural.world.explorer at gmail.com Fri May 7 09:29:57 2021 From: natural.world.explorer at gmail.com (LARRY BAXTER) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] FOY: Western Tanager on north Camano Island Message-ID: We saw a beautiful male Western Tanager on our suet feeder this morning. Since 2014, they have arrived every year between May 4th and May 11th. Larry Baxter Mthiker57 at gmail dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birder4184 at yahoo.com Fri May 7 09:51:28 2021 From: birder4184 at yahoo.com (B B) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Potholes and Elsewhere Yesterday References: <1824036439.888014.1620406288684.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1824036439.888014.1620406288684@mail.yahoo.com> A new birder friend and I birded in Kittitas and Grant Counties yesterday.? Lots of migrants are in but we missed some we hoped for.? We found MacGillivray's, Yellow, Orange Crowned, Yellow Rumped and Nashville Warblers, Warbling and Cassin's Vireos.? Many bluebirds (mostly Mountain)? on Umptanum and Durr Roads.? A surprise was an adult Black Crowned Night Heron at Silica Road Ponds - on the way to the always wondrous Frenchman's Coulee where we had astounding close views of White Throated Swift. But by far the highlight was seeing one or two pairs of Western Grebes "running" on the water in courtship display at Potholes - seen from the main boat launch.? There were over 70 Western/Clark Grebes there - the Clark assumed as we did not check all the grebes.? Also at the boat launch there were a half dozen actively fishing Forster's Terns, a Greater Yellowlegs and a Spotted Sandpiper. At County Line Ponds there were many Black Necked Stilts, 4 American Avocets, Cinnamon and Blue Winged Teal, least Sandpipers and 6 (at least) Wilson's Phalaropes. 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URL: From kyle.elfman at gmail.com Fri May 7 10:52:25 2021 From: kyle.elfman at gmail.com (Kyle Elfman) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Tracking Bird Migration from Space Message-ID: NASA shared an interesting overview video (about 5 minutes long) this morning of how they are using the International Space Station to help track migrating birds: https://youtu.be/Ds1cUlPEfv8 Kyle Elfman Burien, WA kyle dot elfman at gmail dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ellenblackstone at gmail.com Fri May 7 12:09:23 2021 From: ellenblackstone at gmail.com (Ellen Blackstone) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] leucistic Red-winged Blackbird Message-ID: hard to believe my eyes... sure this isn't April 1? https://twitter.com/pnwkate/status/1390466400754421761 Take care, Tweeters, Ellen Blackstone, Seattle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From travelgirl.fics at gmail.com Fri May 7 12:14:56 2021 From: travelgirl.fics at gmail.com (ck park) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] leucistic Red-winged Blackbird In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: looks a lot like one i photographed at lot at juanita bay park; i nicknamed him "whitewall" :) his main territory was the inner reed marsh between the western and middle boardwalks, where he was king for (i think) three summers... 00 caren ParkGallery.org george davis creek, north fork On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 12:10 PM Ellen Blackstone wrote: > hard to believe my eyes... > sure this isn't April 1? > https://twitter.com/pnwkate/status/1390466400754421761 > > Take care, Tweeters, > Ellen Blackstone, Seattle > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Fri May 7 12:25:13 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Tracking Bird Migration from Space In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5124E623-12C5-408B-BE17-5D165DC12CC4@gmail.com> Very neat project, Kyle. Thank you, Dan Reiff MI Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Kyle Elfman wrote: > > ?NASA shared an interesting overview video (about 5 minutes long) this morning of how they are using the International Space Station to help track migrating birds: > > https://youtu.be/Ds1cUlPEfv8 > > Kyle Elfman > Burien, WA > kyle dot elfman at gmail dot com > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dennispaulson at comcast.net Fri May 7 12:30:25 2021 From: dennispaulson at comcast.net (Dennis Paulson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] leucistic Red-winged Blackbird In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12722E7F-1402-4898-AC56-E7D06D9976AF@comcast.net> This is actually a surprisingly common mutation in Red-winged Blackbirds. I know of 4 or 5 of them reported in western Washington in the past few decades. They all look just about like this bird, quite spectacular. Dennis Paulson Seattle > On May 7, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Ellen Blackstone wrote: > > hard to believe my eyes... > sure this isn't April 1? > https://twitter.com/pnwkate/status/1390466400754421761 > > Take care, Tweeters, > Ellen Blackstone, Seattle > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikewile at comcast.net Fri May 7 12:32:50 2021 From: mikewile at comcast.net (mikewile@comcast.net) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] New Yard Bird - Eurasian Collared Dove Message-ID: <004401d74377$c4a97c90$4dfc75b0$@comcast.net> Good afternoon- Probably not so exciting for some of you, but I had my first new yard bird in quite some time a few minutes ago. One singing Eurasian Collared Dove. I live in unincorporated Redmond (Union Hill) area. Good Birding Mike Mike Wile Redmond, Washington mikewile@comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncpeters at uw.edu Fri May 7 13:09:40 2021 From: ncpeters at uw.edu (Nathaniel Peters) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=9CIf_you_build_it=2C_they_will_come?= =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=9D_-_Savannah_Sparrows_at_Fritz_Hedges_Waterway_P?= =?utf-8?q?ark?= Message-ID: Howdy Tweets! I was pleasantly surprised yesterday, and greeted again today, by the song of Savannah Sparrows in the high grass area of the Fritz Hedges Waterway Park adjacent to the UW Campus on Portage Bay. This is the first time I have heard or seen Savannah Sparrows right around my workplace, as it has little to no high grass and is typically dominated by Song and White-crowned Sparrows, Juncos, and Bewick?s Wrens at this time of year. Now, there are at least 2 singing Savannah Sparrows within the small, high grass area. This is not big bird news, but is a welcome addition to the walking portion of my daily commute. If you find yourself strolling around this park, keep an ear out for its new residents! -- - May the* F*lu*OR*escen*CE* be with you! - Nathaniel Peters Ph.D. W. M. Keck Microscopy Center Manager University of Washington ncpeters@uw.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Fri May 7 13:31:54 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Migratory songbirds climb to extreme altitudes during daytime -- ScienceDaily Message-ID: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/05/210507112018.htm Sent from my iPhone From jamietholland at gmail.com Sat May 8 07:25:41 2021 From: jamietholland at gmail.com (Jamie Holland) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Marymoor Great Blue Heron Message-ID: My son and I noticed a deceased adult Great Blue Heron in the rookery at Marymoor yesterday. It is hanging from a nest, its foot tangled with what may be kite string. Quite high up. Can anything be done to remove it? Circle of life and all that, but the string makes it less of a natural process into which one ought not interfere. I have a hard time imagining what could be done, however. 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URL: From jeffgilligan10 at gmail.com Sat May 8 20:28:23 2021 From: jeffgilligan10 at gmail.com (Jeff Gilligan) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Pacific Conty birds today Message-ID: an adult Red-Shouldered Hawk near Chinook 2 Ruddy Turnstones on the flats at Ledbetter State Park 3 White Pelicans - Columbia River estuary Jeff Gilligan (Willapa Bay) From panmail at mailfence.com Sat May 8 20:44:40 2021 From: panmail at mailfence.com (pan) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Seattle migration Message-ID: <1955327151.626755.1620531880111@ichabod.co-bxl> Tweets, Passerine migration may finally be getting a little bump -- I hope they're late, not gone. In Seattle's Montlake Fill today, Dusky Flycatcher, Hammonds Flycatcher (per Louis K.), Yellow Warbler, Western Tanagers, Black-headed Grosbeak, and in the big bird department, six American White Pelicans soared and circled north overhead. Also reports of four dove spp. and sightings of Virginia Rail and Pileated Woodpecker. 8 May, 2021, Alan Grenon Seattle panmail AT mailfence.com From dgrainger at birdsbydave.com Sun May 9 09:15:49 2021 From: dgrainger at birdsbydave.com (dgrainger@birdsbydave.com) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Wilson's Warbler in Port Townsend Message-ID: We have had a lone Wilson's Warbler show up in late afternoons to sip from the smaller bird bath which is in the area we have fenced with low wire to discourage cats. Port Townsend WA up on Castle Hill... Got nice photos despite it being nervously flitting about. (on my website) From cmborre1 at gmail.com Sun May 9 11:03:11 2021 From: cmborre1 at gmail.com (Cara Borre) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Westport Seabirds Trip Report May 8, 2021 Message-ID: Westport Seabirds contributed significantly to the eBird Global Big day, however due to the nature of our reporting, our unique additions for Washington will be delayed getting on the ebird.org/globalbigday tally. Exploring that site and participating in the Global Big day can be fun and informative. Please forgive that short plug for eBird which for those not familiar, is a free bird tracking resource to manage your bird sighting lists and much more. Now on to our trip. We had a great mix of veteran pelagic birders and first timers who dealt with drizzle at times, a ?snotty? bar crossing (Bill Tweit?s adjective), and some early swells, with the hardiness that is sometimes required of seafarers. As we worked our way to the chum spot, we had the usual suspects, Gray Whales, Sooty Shearwater, and Common Murre, but also an unexpected treat of migrating flocks of Common Tern. During the day we had good sized flocks of phalaropes to work through, but couldn?t come up with a Red, finding nothing but beautiful breeding plumage Red-necks. The one or two good looks at Pink-footed Shearwater were greatly appreciated as we had exceptionally low numbers of them for the day. Rhinoceros Auklet and Cassin?s Auklet were very cooperative with an unusual finding of about 5 standing Rhinos on a floating log. As the boat approached we could tell they were exhibiting posturing and sky pointing, actively involved in courtship. They are really magnificent this time of year with their white plumed racing stripes and name-defining yellow horn rising vertically from the bill. You will see a lovely picture of this bird, taken by Eric Ellingson, who happened to be on our trip yesterday, if you search the species in Cornell?s Birds of The World website. Now for the main event, the chum stop. Numbers in parentheses are at the chum stop only, not for the day. We started with virtually no birds and dispersed a fishy, oily cocktail into the sea. As the wind was Goldilocks perfect, not too strong to increase wave height interfering with our viewing ability, and not too weak to prevent our bird attractant from traveling, the birds soon began arriving. Black-footed Albatross (50) was seen well soaring by and sitting on the water eating our thrown suet offerings. We were fortunate to be able to compare the size of our largest tubenose, the albatross, to our smallest, Fork-tailed Storm-Petrel (200+) who were actively feeding and very plentiful. The feeding frenzy continued with Sabine?s Gull (100), Arctic Tern (20), and our only skua, a distant, but clearly seen and definitive Long-tailed Jaeger. Long-tailed Jaeger can be difficult to see well as it often gracefully, yet quickly sails by and doesn?t linger to pirate other birds as the other skuas do. Other participants in the chum event included the ever present Sooty Shearwater, a few Northern Fulmar, and Red-necked Phalaropes. Whale blows attracted our attention and their presence likely added to the bird concentration at the site. As two whales approached, I was viewing them using my phone attached to a new gimbal device to improve the quality of my videos. I watched them on the phone thrilled with the video I was capturing as they surfaced close to the bow, blew and dove. Soon after, Captain Phil pointed out that these were not the Humpback Whales we expected, as they had a falcate or sickle-shaped dorsal fin. We are presuming for now these were Sei Whale as the size, color, and fieldmarks fit best with that species. I regret that during the excitement I looked down at the phone and realized what I had been viewing was NOT being recorded. I would have loved to share that with you, however we are hopeful those onboard have pictures to share and they will be included in a trip compilation video soon. The trip also included a couple brief visits from a few Pacific White-sided Dolphins and several Humpback Whales resulting in a rare three whale day. To cap the day, the jetty produced good looks at several Wandering Tattler and Ruddy Turnstone. Captain Phil Anderson and First Mate Chris Anderson continue to make these journeys possible. Bill Tweit and Bruce LaBar shared years of knowledge, while helping those onboard view and identify the birds as did I. With our reduced capacity due to Covid safety measures, spots are filling fast on future trips. 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URL: From kelsberg at uw.edu Sun May 9 13:30:17 2021 From: kelsberg at uw.edu (Gary A Kelsberg) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Warbling Vireo in Leschi Message-ID: The first Warbling Vireo that I?ve noticed this spring is singing in our backyard in Leschi (for Mother?s Day). Gary Kelsberg Seattle Kelsberg at Yew dot Warshington dot Ee-dew From scottratkinson at hotmail.com Sun May 9 15:40:34 2021 From: scottratkinson at hotmail.com (Scott Atkinson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] migrant highlights up in n. Lake Stevens, including Bullock's Oriole Message-ID: Tweeters: This year certainly hasn't made the big "splash" that late April-early May 2020 did, but today I found 51 species along the 2.4-mile walking route here at Tiny's Land in northmost Lake Stevens. The big surprises were two Bullock's Orioles (only our third encounter in 25 years here) and a roost of Turkey Vultures, right along 84th Street NE, the roost also being a first for the route. Several FOS-FOYs showed up on-time in the last few days, like W. Wood-Pewee, Swainson's Thrush, W. Tanager, and Black-headed Grosbeak. That said, despite good species diversity, numbers of neotropicals seem rather low thus far, and I've heard this from a couple other observers, too. Perhaps south of us another wave of migrants is coming, but it seemed oddly quiet at times along the walking route...I found myself wondering about mortality from last year's smoky-air event...Rufous Hummingbirds have been decidedly rarer this spring (had one today and just two in March). Full EBird list with vulture shots: eBird Checklist - 9 May 2021 - 13704 84th Street NE, Tiny's Lane, Lake Stevens, WA 98258 - 51 species (+3 other taxa). 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A typical song is here: https://ebird.org/checklist/S84123936 The song is also not typical for gambelli and probably not for any other form, though I'm not familiar with others. The bird appeared to have a yellowish bill and acted as if on territory. -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Mon May 10 01:12:41 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Seattle Times article: Peter Cavanagh Message-ID: <0750097B-111F-43C6-BB1C-64ABDBA2E068@gmail.com> Tweeters, There was a very nice Seattle Times article regarding Peter Cavanagh and his bird photography on the front page of section C1, yesterday, Sunday, May 9, 2021. Congratulations on your new book, Peter. I look forward to seeing it. 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URL: From Jennifer.Vanderhoof at kingcounty.gov Mon May 10 08:56:44 2021 From: Jennifer.Vanderhoof at kingcounty.gov (Vanderhoof, Jennifer) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Marymoor Great Blue Heron Message-ID: The heron that is hanging dead at the Marymoor rookery is hanging from fishing line that it had integrated into the nest. It is heartbreaking to imagine how much it must have struggled before it died, while its mate and the rest of the colony looked on, and possibly with eggs in the nest. I have photos but am not sure how to share them in Tweeters. WDFW has a Monofilament recovery and recycling program, but more needs to be done. I want to help in any way I can. Seeing that heron absolutely broke my heart. -Jen Jen Vanderhoof, Senior Ecologist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beneteau at wavecable.com Mon May 10 09:45:07 2021 From: beneteau at wavecable.com (beneteau) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Evening Grosbeaks, Apology Message-ID: Don't know if I should say sorry or not.? Noticed that there aren't many reports in eBird of Evening Grosbeaks in northern Snohomish County.? Don't know if this is normal every year (I don't browse eBird very much-find it difficult) but most of the reports seem to be at my place north of Arlington. So, I might have hogged the market for these guys.? I used that word advisedly--they don't have beaks at all, they have snouts! Critters, 15-25 of 'em, are going through 20 pounds plus of seed every week.? They don't seem to actively chase off other birds very much (siskins sneak in readily) but they are such a crowd that no one else can fit! So, sorry, didn't mean to keep them all in my yard every bloomin' day, all day, CHEEP! CHEEP! CHEEP! -- Jim Beneteau Arlington, Wa From edwardpullen at gmail.com Mon May 10 11:15:43 2021 From: edwardpullen at gmail.com (Edward Pullen) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Father - daughter podcast guests Message-ID: Our own Scott and Sierra Downes are my guests on the 100th episode of The Bird Banter Podcast this week. I was really pleased to do this episode, and to have the WOS Patrick Sullivan Young Birder Award recipient (Sierra) and her Dad (Scott) for this milestone episode for me seemed very appropriate. Enjoy. http://birdbanter.com/index.php/category/thebirdbanterpodcastblog/ to see the blog post and get links to most podcast feeds if you're interested. Ed -- Ed Pullen Listen to my podcast at The Bird Banter Podcast available on iTunes podcast store and other feeds. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hank.heiberg at yahoo.com Mon May 10 11:24:13 2021 From: hank.heiberg at yahoo.com (Hank Heiberg) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Eastern WA References: <8E3ECCD1-5F9C-4202-961A-C86F4782AB18@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9D04FFF8-85E0-487C-81A5-6B00ACAEF803@yahoo.com> >> ?Last week we birded in Kittitas, Chelan, Grant and Adams counties. Our surprises were.. >> 1. A Caspian Tern harrassing a Black-crowned Night-Heron just south of Soda Lake in the Columbia NWR. >> 2. Three Harlequin Ducks above the spillway at the Leavenworth National Fish Hatchery. >> 3. An unattended camp fire along Umptanum Road which we were dousing with water from our car and shoveled dirt when a Kittitas County fire vehicle arrived followed by 4 DNR fire vehicles. It was the first time that we have used the shovel that we have carried in our car for years. >> 4. A blizzard on the way home between Easton and Snoqualmie Pass. >> >> Our tool for finding birds and their locales was, as usual, Washington Dashboard. >> >> http://birdingwashington.info/dashboard/wa/ >> >> The following photo album gives a good idea of what we saw. >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ljcouple/albums/72157719109873141 >> >> The locations are either in the caption under the photo or as a tag which can be seen by scrolling down from the photo. Rotary Park in Ellensburg was good for Yellow-headed Blackbirds. Para Ponds northwest of Othello had a large variety of interesting birds, but we did not see Tri-colored Blackbirds in Othello. Sleeping Lady Resort has a Pygmy Nuthatch that is nesting in the snag right by the main circular drive. However we did not see any White-headed Woodpeckers. Driving through the Columbia NWR from Othello to Potholes State Park was very productive. 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I am looking for any person or persons who observed (and maybe photographed or took video) the events that expired. Larry mentioned a group of bird watchers were headed towards the nest area as he was leaving. Also, the person who observed the egg removal and possible cannibalism. If you monitor other Seattle area birding email groups, please forward this message (I can barely keep up with Tweeters in digest mode?) Any help in getting in touch with folks would be very much appreciated. Martin Muller, Seattle martinmuller@msn.com From stevechampton at gmail.com Mon May 10 21:18:09 2021 From: stevechampton at gmail.com (Steve Hampton) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Marymoor Great Blue Heron In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I learned a lot about fishing hook and line (FHL) entanglements and bird mortality when I worked for Calif Dept of Fish & Wildlife. Using Intl Bird Rescue data, we estimated that something like 500 birds die from FHL injuries each year (half were pelicans around piers and jetties). It is an even larger issue in Florida. While a lot has been done to install used fishing line receptacles and provide educational signage about not leaving line (and not cutting the line if you hook a bird), we found that many of the receptacles have no maintenance-- they are overflowing because no one empties them regularly. They may have been installed at a public location by an NGO, but neither the NGO nor the public agency maintain them. That may be one place where volunteers can step in. Thank you for your willingness to address this problem. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 8:58 AM Vanderhoof, Jennifer < Jennifer.Vanderhoof@kingcounty.gov> wrote: > The heron that is hanging dead at the Marymoor rookery is hanging from > fishing line that it had integrated into the nest. It is heartbreaking to > imagine how much it must have struggled before it died, while its mate and > the rest of the colony looked on, and possibly with eggs in the nest. I > have photos but am not sure how to share them in Tweeters. > > > > WDFW has a Monofilament recovery and recycling program, but more needs to > be done. I want to help in any way I can. Seeing that heron absolutely > broke my heart. > > > > -Jen > > > > *Jen Vanderhoof, Senior Ecologist* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tvulture at gmx.com Tue May 11 13:41:31 2021 From: tvulture at gmx.com (Diann MacRae) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Pigeons and owl question Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Garrett Haynes Auburn, WA Sent from my iPhone From jdanzenbaker at gmail.com Tue May 11 14:50:49 2021 From: jdanzenbaker at gmail.com (Jim Danzenbaker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] end of Lower Rover Road, Vancouver Lowlands, Clark County, WA Message-ID: Hi Tweeters, Between several ponds east of the dike trail going northeast from the end of Lower River Road in the Vancouver Lowlands northwest of Vancouver Lake, Clark County, this morning, the following shorebirds were seen: Semipalmated Plover: 1 (there are 2 in the area) Killdeer: 10 Dunlin: 7 Least Sandpiper: 20 Semipalmated Sandpiper: 1 (first one I've ever seen in Spring in western Washington!) Western Sandpiper: 22 Long-billed Dowitcher: 9 Wilson's Snipe: 1 Wilson's Phalarope 1 (male) Spotted Sandpiper: 4 Greater Yellowlegs: 5 Lesser Yellowlegs: 1 I don't remember when I last saw 12 species of shorebirds in Clark County in Spring! Keep your eyes and ears focused on wherever the birds are. 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Mary Hrudkaj Belfair/Tahuya ________________________________ From: Tweeters on behalf of Diann MacRae Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 1:41 PM To: tweeters t Subject: [Tweeters] Pigeons and owl question Hi, Tweets A few days ago we had two band-tailed pigeons - quite a "new" bird for years. When we moved in 30+ years ago, the sellers told us there were lots of owls in the woods. It turned out they were band-tailed pigeons - in big numbers. They gradually thinned out to nothing so I was surprised to see the two the other day. They haven't been back. We are awaiting "our" barred owls that spent weeks in our yard last summer. My son hears them occasionally late at night, but I was wondering around when barred owls would fledge in our area (Bothell, lots of forest here). And, don't forget: turkey vultures are heading north to nest . . . etc. Cheers, Diann Diann MacRae Olympic Vulture Study 22622 - 53rd Avenue S.E. 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Jim On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jim Danzenbaker wrote: > Hi Tweeters, > > Between several ponds east of the dike trail going northeast from the end > of Lower River Road in the Vancouver Lowlands northwest of Vancouver Lake, > Clark County, this morning, the following shorebirds were seen: > > Semipalmated Plover: 1 (there are 2 in the area) > Killdeer: 10 > Dunlin: 7 > Least Sandpiper: 20 > Semipalmated Sandpiper: 1 (first one I've ever seen in Spring in western > Washington!) > Western Sandpiper: 22 > Long-billed Dowitcher: 9 > Wilson's Snipe: 1 > Wilson's Phalarope 1 (male) > Spotted Sandpiper: 4 > Greater Yellowlegs: 5 > Lesser Yellowlegs: 1 > > I don't remember when I last saw 12 species of shorebirds in Clark County > in Spring! > > Keep your eyes and ears focused on wherever the birds are. > > Jim > -- > Jim Danzenbaker > Battle Ground, WA > 360-702-9395 > jdanzenbaker@gmail.com > -- Jim Danzenbaker Battle Ground, WA 360-702-9395 jdanzenbaker@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They also called as they flew off. We returned to Diamondfield Jack Campground, and Joseph spotted a group of four more Cassia Crossbills coming down to feed on some fallen lodgepole pine branches close by. When they flew, they went right over our heads, and one of them even flew between us, so close that we felt its wingbeats. There were lots of other birds in the area. We were especially pleased to see a pair of Williamson's sapsuckers. Rachel Lawson and Joseph Brown Seattle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We'll be staying two nights in Grass Valley and one night in Dayville, and traveling with a 4 1/2-year-old boy who loves dinosaurs (fossil and living feathered ones) as well as snakes and lizards. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions! > > Robin Baird > Olympia, WA > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nrieferb at gmail.com Wed May 12 15:07:26 2021 From: nrieferb at gmail.com (Nelson Briefer) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Goshawk Anacortes Message-ID: While sitting in car a NG was heading toward me at about 150 feet altitude. The hawk was being hit by three small birds. The hawk had very rapid and flexible wing beats. The hawk was then drifting and circling toward Cap Sante and the bluff with woods, in the afternoon. 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If you want to try for it, from the park?s small parking lot, walk west beyond the prominent ?X? artwork piece (keeping the artwork on your left) to the fence and look west, scanning the shallow portion of the pond. That?s where it was hanging out. You?ll be facing Meridian Ave. There are a few young Killdeer in the grass; if the adults get really excited, you?ll know you are too close to their chicks. I will post a few photos of the Lark Sparrow with my eBird report. Good luck, Joe Joe Sweeney sweeneyfit at mac dot com sweeneyfit.wordpress.com http://joe-sweeney.fineartamerica.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Montlake Fill (Seattle) also reported more than a dozen Long-billed Dowitchers today. 12 May, 2021, Alan Grenon Seattle panmail AT mailfence.com From sweeneyfit at mac.com Wed May 12 17:58:00 2021 From: sweeneyfit at mac.com (Joe Sweeney) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Shoreline Lark Sparrow refound Message-ID: <0649BEFB-570E-4CCE-8183-479C7D19957E@mac.com> John Puschock texted me at 4:49pm that he refound the LARK SPARROW west of the Meridian Elementary School on a practice soccer field. Then he sent me an update that it?s between the school and the learning center. Joe Sweeney sweeneyfit at mac dot com NE Seattle sweeneyfit.wordpress.com http://joe-sweeney.fineartamerica.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That bird was still there today. https://flic.kr/p/2kYgfDg Marv Breece Tukwila, WA marvbreece@q.com Pbase Images : https://www.pbase.com/marvbreece Flickr Videos : https://www.flickr.com/photos/138163614@N02/ Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHbkNzr4TaZ6ZBWfoJNvavw/featured -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 1northraven at gmail.com Thu May 13 05:36:44 2021 From: 1northraven at gmail.com (J Christian Kessler) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birding magazine free Message-ID: I have 30 years of the ABA's Birding magazine (Dec 1990 - Jan 2021) free to first taker. I live in Seattle, but can arrange to meet half-way (I bird east side a lot). email me privately. Chris Kessler Seattle -- "moderation in everything, including moderation" Rustin Thompson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Most of the ?winter? birds have left, as have some pass-through migrants. Summer birds are slowly arriving. Highlights: a.. Northern Shoveler ? three flyby birds are a late remnant b.. Ring-necked Duck ? Matt saw a pair pre-dawn, also lingering late (only 2 later sightings ever) c.. Vaux?s Swift ? just one, at the Rowing Club d.. Spotted Sandpiper ? one at the weir ? First of Year (FOY) e.. Belted Kingfisher ? at least two; first in 5 weeks f.. OLIVE-SIDED FLYCATCHER ? one perched high. 3rd earliest spring sighting ever (FOY) g.. Warbling Vireo ? more than 10 h.. Swainson?s Thrush ? first actual sighting and first singing of the year; last week Matt heard some calls i.. Red Crossbill ? small flock at Rowing Club gave us good looks j.. White-crowned Sparrow ? one lingering ?Gambeli? type, singing, had a bum right eye. A few of the expected ?Pugetensis? k.. Bullock?s Oriole ? at least 4 (2 pair?) l.. Orange-crowned Warbler ? more than 10, only one glimpsed, rest heard-only m.. Yellow Warbler ? more than 10, with some good looks n.. Wilson?s Warbler ? more than 10, most heard-only o.. Western Tanager ? maybe 8, including several females p.. Lazuli Bunting ? one male seen briefly near Viewing Mound. Kazuto photographed one on Friday the 7th for FOY A late scan of the lake turned up a COMMON LOON in non-breeding plumage, and at least 8 BALD EAGLES, including seven sub-adults. Mammals today included AMERICAN BEAVER predawn, one MUSKRAT, and a LONG-TAILED WEASEL. Misses today included Wood Duck, Rock Pigeon, Glaucous-winged Gull, Green Heron, and Cliff Swallow. For the day, 67 species. For the year, adding 3, we?re up to 133 species. = Michael Hobbs = www.marymoor.org/birding.htm = BirdMarymoor@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Marv Breece Tukwila, WA marvbreece@q.com Pbase Images : https://www.pbase.com/marvbreece Flickr Videos : https://www.flickr.com/photos/138163614@N02/ Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHbkNzr4TaZ6ZBWfoJNvavw/featured -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradliljequist at msn.com Thu May 13 21:05:36 2021 From: bradliljequist at msn.com (BRAD Liljequist) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Migration? Message-ID: Alan Grenon mentioned this last week - but I am really feeling the dearth of birds right now - sort of feel like there's been almost no migration. But, maybe the nice weather has kept birds high over the City, flying at night, etc.? Migration so far this year: * A couple of Western Tanagers, heard not seen, Phinney Ridge * This morning, a very welcome Wilson's Warbler at our Phinney Ridge bird bath. * Last weekend on Obstruction Island, a few Orange Crowned and 3-4 Townsend's Warblers. That's it. 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But, maybe the nice weather has kept birds high over the City, flying at night, etc.? > > Migration so far this year: > A couple of Western Tanagers, heard not seen, Phinney Ridge > This morning, a very welcome Wilson's Warbler at our Phinney Ridge bird bath. > Last weekend on Obstruction Island, a few Orange Crowned and 3-4 Townsend's Warblers. > That's it. I really keep my ears open this time of year, windows rolled down, etc.. I'm just not seeing or hearing it. > > Any thoughts or reactions? > > Brad Liljequist > Phinney Ridge > Seattle, WA > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birdmarymoor at gmail.com Thu May 13 21:25:28 2021 From: birdmarymoor at gmail.com (Michael Hobbs) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Migration? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This week at Marymoor we finally had decent numbers for some of the neotropical migrants. But we've had no empids and no pewee yet. Vaux's Swift numbers have been very low. Swallow numbers have been low. Sunday, I did the Toppenish sector of the Yakima Migration Count and had pitifully few warblers and sparrows. My sense is that neotropical migrants are below 50% of normal, but we'll have hard data within a few weeks to answer these questions for real. - Michael On Thu, May 13, 2021, 9:07 PM BRAD Liljequist wrote: > Alan Grenon mentioned this last week - but I am really feeling the dearth > of birds right now - sort of feel like there's been almost no migration. > But, maybe the nice weather has kept birds high over the City, flying at > night, etc.? > > Migration so far this year: > > - A couple of Western Tanagers, heard not seen, Phinney Ridge > - This morning, a very welcome Wilson's Warbler at our Phinney Ridge > bird bath. > - Last weekend on Obstruction Island, a few Orange Crowned and 3-4 > Townsend's Warblers. > > That's it. I really keep my ears open this time of year, windows rolled > down, etc.. I'm just not seeing or hearing it. > > Any thoughts or reactions? > > Brad Liljequist > Phinney Ridge > Seattle, WA > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevechampton at gmail.com Thu May 13 21:49:35 2021 From: stevechampton at gmail.com (Steve Hampton) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Migration? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've heard the same thing from my friends in northern California-- few migrants. That said, here in Port Townsend, quite a few Warbling Vireos, Black-headed Grosbeaks, Pac-slope Flycatchers, and Wilson's, Orange-cr, and Yellow Warblers, and even a few Olive-sided Flycatchers, seem to already be on territory, singing from the same spots every morning for over a week. So I've seen a ton of "migrants", but I think most of these are local breeders. Among obvious migrants (that don't nest here), celata Orange-crowns are moving thru in decent numbers. Myrtles had an enormous push the last few weeks and have since thinned out. Other than those, I guess I haven't seen that many migrants. Spring migration can be very quick and direct, especially in clear weather. I wonder to what extent birds are spending very little time at stopovers and heading straight to their breeding spots. On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 9:26 PM Michael Hobbs wrote: > This week at Marymoor we finally had decent numbers for some of the > neotropical migrants. But we've had no empids and no pewee yet. Vaux's > Swift numbers have been very low. Swallow numbers have been low. > > Sunday, I did the Toppenish sector of the Yakima Migration Count and had > pitifully few warblers and sparrows. > > My sense is that neotropical migrants are below 50% of normal, but we'll > have hard data within a few weeks to answer these questions for real. > > - Michael > > > On Thu, May 13, 2021, 9:07 PM BRAD Liljequist > wrote: > >> Alan Grenon mentioned this last week - but I am really feeling the dearth >> of birds right now - sort of feel like there's been almost no migration. >> But, maybe the nice weather has kept birds high over the City, flying at >> night, etc.? >> >> Migration so far this year: >> >> - A couple of Western Tanagers, heard not seen, Phinney Ridge >> - This morning, a very welcome Wilson's Warbler at our Phinney Ridge >> bird bath. >> - Last weekend on Obstruction Island, a few Orange Crowned and 3-4 >> Townsend's Warblers. >> >> That's it. I really keep my ears open this time of year, windows rolled >> down, etc.. I'm just not seeing or hearing it. >> >> Any thoughts or reactions? >> >> Brad Liljequist >> Phinney Ridge >> Seattle, WA >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dougsantoni at gmail.com Thu May 13 21:50:28 2021 From: dougsantoni at gmail.com (Doug Santoni) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Migration? In-Reply-To: <413E504E-1100-49C0-94E8-DEECF10DD5E8@mac.com> References: <413E504E-1100-49C0-94E8-DEECF10DD5E8@mac.com> Message-ID: <50FC019E-C5F3-4351-A2C1-2F34F89A6087@gmail.com> With regards to lack of migrating songbirds (especially warblers), it has seemed VERY slow to me this year here in Seattle. I generally stick to my neighborhood walk, visiting Foster Island and the Arboretum. Last year, I had many Yellow-rumped and Townsend?s Warblers, as well as Wilson?s, Orange-crowned, Black-throated Gray, and Nashville. This year, I?ve seen only a handful of Yellow-rumped. Last year, there was a flowering bush that for two weeks attracted 6-10 Western Tanagers every time I visited it. This year, none. It?s a minor consolation, but today I did get to see a coyote and a raccoon on my late morning walk in the Arboretum. A very strange spring? Doug Santoni Seattle > On May 13, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Zora Monster wrote: > > I?ve noticed the lack of birds as well. We usually have a variety of warblers when the apple tree blooms, but not this year. All I?ve seen this spring is a Wilson?s warbler; perhaps it is the same one you saw as we are both on phinney ridge. > > Zora > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 13, 2021, at 9:08 PM, BRAD Liljequist wrote: >> >> ? >> Alan Grenon mentioned this last week - but I am really feeling the dearth of birds right now - sort of feel like there's been almost no migration. But, maybe the nice weather has kept birds high over the City, flying at night, etc.? >> >> Migration so far this year: >> A couple of Western Tanagers, heard not seen, Phinney Ridge >> This morning, a very welcome Wilson's Warbler at our Phinney Ridge bird bath. >> Last weekend on Obstruction Island, a few Orange Crowned and 3-4 Townsend's Warblers. >> That's it. I really keep my ears open this time of year, windows rolled down, etc.. I'm just not seeing or hearing it. >> >> Any thoughts or reactions? >> >> Brad Liljequist >> Phinney Ridge >> Seattle, WA >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amk17 at earthlink.net Thu May 13 21:58:33 2021 From: amk17 at earthlink.net (Anna) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Migration? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D5E8EAE-9837-48DD-94A1-10C2177E2B93@earthlink.net> Agree, very light so far. Had a warbling vireo in yard last week. Wilson?s warblers singing in yard for over a week and orange crowned warblers here and there but only one at a time. Highlight was a group of 6 golden crowned sparrows that dropped for a week and departed together likely. Also in Phinney Ridge. Lots of territorial singing this week. Bewicks wren?s nest fledged (I hope). Black capped chickadees still visiting nest box. Another pair of bc chickadees courting in yard. AKopitov Seattle Sent from my iPhone with all the auto correct quirks. On May 13, 2021, at 9:08 PM, BRAD Liljequist wrote: ? Alan Grenon mentioned this last week - but I am really feeling the dearth of birds right now - sort of feel like there's been almost no migration. But, maybe the nice weather has kept birds high over the City, flying at night, etc.? Migration so far this year: A couple of Western Tanagers, heard not seen, Phinney Ridge This morning, a very welcome Wilson's Warbler at our Phinney Ridge bird bath. Last weekend on Obstruction Island, a few Orange Crowned and 3-4 Townsend's Warblers. That's it. I really keep my ears open this time of year, windows rolled down, etc.. I'm just not seeing or hearing it. Any thoughts or reactions? Brad Liljequist Phinney Ridge Seattle, WA _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikewile at comcast.net Thu May 13 23:04:12 2021 From: mikewile at comcast.net (Mike Wile) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Migration? In-Reply-To: <50FC019E-C5F3-4351-A2C1-2F34F89A6087@gmail.com> References: <50FC019E-C5F3-4351-A2C1-2F34F89A6087@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone Opposite for me. Yellow rumps were prolific in April and early May. Black throated grays have been ubiquitous for two weeks. A couple Townsends and a solitary Nashville this week. Wilson?s have been a wake up call for the last week as well. Yesterday morning heard my first Swainsons Thrush. We have been in our house in Redmond (Union Hill area) for 25 years. In my opinion, above average migrants Mike Wile Mikewile@comcast.net Sent from my iPhone > On May 13, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Doug Santoni wrote: > ?With regards to lack of migrating songbirds (especially warblers), it has seemed VERY slow to me this year here in Seattle. I generally stick to my neighborhood walk, visiting Foster Island and the Arboretum. Last year, I had many Yellow-rumped and Townsend?s Warblers, as well as Wilson?s, Orange-crowned, Black-throated Gray, and Nashville. This year, I?ve seen only a handful of Yellow-rumped. Last year, there was a flowering bush that for two weeks attracted 6-10 Western Tanagers every time I visited it. This year, none. > > It?s a minor consolation, but today I did get to see a coyote and a raccoon on my late morning walk in the Arboretum. > > A very strange spring? > > Doug Santoni > Seattle > >> On May 13, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Zora Monster wrote: >> >> I?ve noticed the lack of birds as well. We usually have a variety of warblers when the apple tree blooms, but not this year. All I?ve seen this spring is a Wilson?s warbler; perhaps it is the same one you saw as we are both on phinney ridge. >> >> Zora >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 13, 2021, at 9:08 PM, BRAD Liljequist wrote: >>> ? >>> Alan Grenon mentioned this last week - but I am really feeling the dearth of birds right now - sort of feel like there's been almost no migration. But, maybe the nice weather has kept birds high over the City, flying at night, etc.? >>> >>> Migration so far this year: >>> A couple of Western Tanagers, heard not seen, Phinney Ridge >>> This morning, a very welcome Wilson's Warbler at our Phinney Ridge bird bath. >>> Last weekend on Obstruction Island, a few Orange Crowned and 3-4 Townsend's Warblers. >>> That's it. I really keep my ears open this time of year, windows rolled down, etc.. I'm just not seeing or hearing it. >>> >>> Any thoughts or reactions? >>> >>> Brad Liljequist >>> Phinney Ridge >>> Seattle, WA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob Flores Ridgefield, WA From 2doug at dougplummer.com Fri May 14 09:19:06 2021 From: 2doug at dougplummer.com (Doug Plummer gmail) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Sharpie or Coopers? Message-ID: <684C2FFF-0943-4CAD-9197-7BEBE9CC9DA0@gmail.com> Sighted in Ravenna Park this morning. My first impression was, why is that Robin rocketing through the woods? Can you confirm it?s a Sharp-shinned, or help me learn why I?m wrong? Link to photos here: https://dougplummer.smugmug.com/Accipiter-ID/n-NTZ9ff Doug Plummer Seattle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davelokness at gmail.com Fri May 14 10:54:50 2021 From: davelokness at gmail.com (David Ness) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] (no subject) Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The program has been developed for people with little or no banding experience, but those with intermediate skills will also find the workshop a good way to build knowledge. While we will miss having field and lab components this year, we are going to take advantage of the opportunity to look at the topics much more in-depth than we can in our usual workshop. North American Banding Council certified trainer, Dr. Eric Demers, PhD, RPBio, will be the instructor. Dr. Alison Moran will provide a guest lecture on hummingbird biology. The workshop fee is $175 Canadian, with discounts for students and Rocky Point Bird Observatory members. Enrollment is limited to 20 participants. For more information, please visit: http://rpbo.org/rpboworkshop21.php Ann Nightingale Saanichton, BC -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rufo.hill at gmail.com Fri May 14 23:17:53 2021 From: rufo.hill at gmail.com (James Rufo Hill) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Migration? In-Reply-To: <413E504E-1100-49C0-94E8-DEECF10DD5E8@mac.com> References: <413E504E-1100-49C0-94E8-DEECF10DD5E8@mac.com> Message-ID: I've been waiting for this thread, thanks, Brad. So far this spring I've noted all the usual suspects, just fewer of them and often late. I first noticed the absence of swallows and their dawn song. But most obvious to me are the missing Pacific Slope Flycatchers. Typically there are at least four separate territories within a half-acre radius of my house; this year there are only two, and they showed up two weeks late. Atmospherically, much of the region is amid a top-five driest springs on record, due mainly to persistent high pressure and strong northwesterly onshore flow. Migrants haven't had as many southerly tail-wind opportunities this spring, for what it's worth. I've seen them spread out on the radar, but I wonder if some are being pushed eastward. - James On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 9:14 PM Zora Monster wrote: > I?ve noticed the lack of birds as well. We usually have a variety of > warblers when the apple tree blooms, but not this year. All I?ve seen this > spring is a Wilson?s warbler; perhaps it is the same one you saw as we are > both on phinney ridge. > > Zora > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 13, 2021, at 9:08 PM, BRAD Liljequist > wrote: > > ? > Alan Grenon mentioned this last week - but I am really feeling the dearth > of birds right now - sort of feel like there's been almost no migration. > But, maybe the nice weather has kept birds high over the City, flying at > night, etc.? > > Migration so far this year: > > - A couple of Western Tanagers, heard not seen, Phinney Ridge > - This morning, a very welcome Wilson's Warbler at our Phinney Ridge > bird bath. > - Last weekend on Obstruction Island, a few Orange Crowned and 3-4 > Townsend's Warblers. > > That's it. I really keep my ears open this time of year, windows rolled > down, etc.. I'm just not seeing or hearing it. > > Any thoughts or reactions? > > Brad Liljequist > Phinney Ridge > Seattle, WA > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amk17 at earthlink.net Sat May 15 07:15:02 2021 From: amk17 at earthlink.net (AMK17) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Today on Phinney Ridge Message-ID: <706296494.558.1621088102716@wamui-kitty.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Adding to phinney thread, heard a yellow warbler singing this morning...Wilson?s and orange crowned too. AKopitov Seattle AMK17 -----Original Message----- >From: Zora Monster >Sent: May 14, 2021 7:58 PM >To: tweeters >Subject: [Tweeters] Today on Phinney Ridge > >Spotted one olive-sided flycatcher, one male western tanager and three female western tanagers. Good day in the neighborhood. > >Zora Dermer > >Sent from my iPhone >_______________________________________________ >Tweeters mailing list >Tweeters@u.washington.edu >http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From garybletsch at yahoo.com Sat May 15 07:54:33 2021 From: garybletsch at yahoo.com (Gary Bletsch) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] perception of spring migration References: <1940332975.500772.1621090473302.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1940332975.500772.1621090473302@mail.yahoo.com> Dear Tweeters, Thanks to one and all for the interesting reports of spring migrants. Although I do remember saying to some birding friends that migration seemed a bit thin or slow, it has not seemed markedly so. I just checked my records for the first twelve days of May, covering the years 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021, Skagit County only. My birding effort was similar in these four years. Here is a summary from these data. 2018, 4418 birds of 132 species. 2019, 2948 birds of 121 species. 2020, 5434 birds of 144 species. 2021, 5809 birds of 129 species. To me, these data show 2021 to be unremarkable. I can't help thinking that pandemic fatigue may be coloring everyone's perceptions of this year. I will say that there do seem to be slightly fewer neotropical migrants in my yard this spring. However, there are more Violet-green Swallows at my place than usual. In fact, they have taken over two of my birdhouses, one of which had been used previously by Tree Swallows, the other by House Sparrows. 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Good day in the neighborhood. > >Zora Dermer > >Sent from my iPhone >_______________________________________________ >Tweeters mailing list >Tweeters@u.washington.edu >http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From scrubjay323 at gmail.com Sat May 15 13:03:32 2021 From: scrubjay323 at gmail.com (Phil Kelley) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] FOY Message-ID: Tweets, I had a FOY female Black-Headed Grosbeak at my feeders this morning. Where are the males? Phil Kelley Lacey, WA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beckyg.sea at gmail.com Sat May 15 13:08:25 2021 From: beckyg.sea at gmail.com (Becky Galloway) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] 5/14: WBNU at Swauk Cem; Male BHGR at Cle Elum RR ponds Message-ID: We had a male black-headed grosbeak, along with a stunning yellow warbler, at the railroad ponds at Cle Elum yesterday. 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Instead, at Kah Tai Lagoon, in a short stretch (100 yards) about 20 Yellow and 12 Wilson's Warblers were in song, making for a pretty impressive soundscape. Seven Western Tanagers were foraging thru them as well. Full list at https://ebird.org/checklist/S88177674 The only Black-thr Gray Warblers I've seen this year were a few birds likely on territory near Discovery Rd Pond. No migrants in town. good birding, -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dick at dkporter.net Sat May 15 15:49:50 2021 From: dick at dkporter.net (dick) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Road to Harts Pass open how far? Message-ID: Has anyone driven up the Harts Pass Road out of Mazama this Spring?? Wondering how far up it might be open?Thanks, DickSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From panmail at mailfence.com Sat May 15 16:48:44 2021 From: panmail at mailfence.com (pan) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Message-ID: <937055913.1428891.1621122524230@ichabod.co-bxl> Tweets, I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). Just so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the wetlands off Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. Greater Yellowlegs, 3 Spotted Sandpiper, 1 Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 Killdeer, ~4 Blue-winged Teal, 1 Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) Great Blue Heron Osprey others, including a male Lazuli Bunting The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably close up in a year or two with all the willows planted. 15 May, 2021, Alan Grenon panmail AT mailfence.com From andy_mcc at hotmail.com Sat May 15 16:53:42 2021 From: andy_mcc at hotmail.com (Andy McCormick) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Keller Farm Wetlands Message-ID: Hello Tweets: Carol and I tried for the Pectoral Sandpiper this afternoon but dipped on it. There are many other birds there, however. Since this was our first time birding there, we were glad to see Greater Yellowlegs, Killdeer, Spotted Sandpipers, and the one LB Dowitcher still there. Several species of ducks and lots of Canada/Cackling Geese round out the field. The viewing is good from the sidewalk and we stopped several place along the way. It is definitely an experience in urban birding with consistent traffic on Avondale Road, but urbanity has its benefits. The walk from the Kohl?s parking lot includes Mercury Coffee as an amenity. The mango-peach smoothly was refreshing today and the warmed up chocolate croissant covered the required bakery stop for the birding trip. We?ll definitely be checking out the wetlands again. Andy McCormick Bellevue, WA Get Outlook for iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy_mcc at hotmail.com Sat May 15 17:34:19 2021 From: andy_mcc at hotmail.com (Andy McCormick) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] perception of spring migration In-Reply-To: <1940332975.500772.1621090473302@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1940332975.500772.1621090473302.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <1940332975.500772.1621090473302@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Tweeters, This is an important conversation regarding the numbers of birds in this spring?s migration. Gary?s data are important and help provide a longer term basis for assessment. Michael?s long history at Marymoor Park will also provide some good perspective. The unevenness in the reporting with scarcity reported in some places and good numbers in others is another important factor to consider. We are all aware of the hammering that neotropical migrants have been taking over the past few decades from habitat loss, insecticides killing their food sources, and a warming climate disrupting the previously more stable annual rhythm of life. The Cornell report of 3 billion birds, that is 1/3 of North American birds, lost in the past 30 years cautioned that this trend in the decline of birds is likely to continue. Similar declines are occurring in the Africa to Europe and Asia bird migrations. With 1/3 fewer birds migrating we are less likely to see a widespread influx of birds, and the spotty and uneven clusters of migrating birds we are experiencing is a likely outcome of this population decline and a more likely scenario for our birding future, unless we turn around the ongoing decline of these beautiful birds. Advocacy for birds is extremely important right now and we can all contribute to that effort and I encourage all of us to support an organization working for birds and legislation to support birds and their habitat needs. We have done it before with banning DDT and saving the Bald Eagle, Peregrine Falcon, and Brown Pelican. We can do it again for migrating birds. Regards to all, Andy McCormick Bellevue, WA Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Tweeters on behalf of Gary Bletsch Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 7:55 AM To: Tweeters Tweeters Subject: [Tweeters] perception of spring migration Dear Tweeters, Thanks to one and all for the interesting reports of spring migrants. Although I do remember saying to some birding friends that migration seemed a bit thin or slow, it has not seemed markedly so. I just checked my records for the first twelve days of May, covering the years 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021, Skagit County only. My birding effort was similar in these four years. Here is a summary from these data. 2018, 4418 birds of 132 species. 2019, 2948 birds of 121 species. 2020, 5434 birds of 144 species. 2021, 5809 birds of 129 species. To me, these data show 2021 to be unremarkable. I can't help thinking that pandemic fatigue may be coloring everyone's perceptions of this year. I will say that there do seem to be slightly fewer neotropical migrants in my yard this spring. However, there are more Violet-green Swallows at my place than usual. In fact, they have taken over two of my birdhouses, one of which had been used previously by Tree Swallows, the other by House Sparrows. Yours truly, Gary Bletsch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dennispaulson at comcast.net Sat May 15 18:03:20 2021 From: dennispaulson at comcast.net (Dennis Paulson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: <937055913.1428891.1621122524230@ichabod.co-bxl> References: <937055913.1428891.1621122524230@ichabod.co-bxl> Message-ID: Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. Dennis Paulson Seattle > On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan wrote: > > Tweets, > > I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). Just so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the wetlands off Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. > Greater Yellowlegs, 3 > Spotted Sandpiper, 1 > Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 > Killdeer, ~4 > Blue-winged Teal, 1 > Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) > Great Blue Heron > Osprey > others, including a male Lazuli Bunting > > The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably close up in a year or two with all the willows planted. > > 15 May, 2021, > > Alan Grenon > panmail AT mailfence.com > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From mcallisters4 at comcast.net Sat May 15 18:17:03 2021 From: mcallisters4 at comcast.net (mcallisters4@comcast.net) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: References: <937055913.1428891.1621122524230@ichabod.co-bxl> Message-ID: <00ce01d749f1$2e3db160$8ab91420$@comcast.net> During the debate about wetland "restoration" and mitigation credits for the work at the Montlake Fill I weighed in agreeing with Dennis and the idea that the "highest and best" habitat value for this location was early successional wetland habitat that would be more likely to attract and provide basic support for species that have a difficult time finding suitable habitat elsewhere, like shorebirds. The primary wetland regulators in Washington, the Department of Ecology and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, establish how much credit given for creating different kinds of wetland conditions. A typical late successional type with a strong willow or shrub component gets the most credits, I believe. It would cost less to forego the planting of willows, Spiraea, and other woody plants, and, perhaps, the compensation could be a commitment to periodically set back succession to maintain open muddy shorelines and shallows. Kelly McAllister Formerly WSDOT, Olympia -----Original Message----- From: Tweeters On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM To: pan Cc: TWEETERS tweeters Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. Dennis Paulson Seattle From rogermoyer1 at hotmail.com Sat May 15 18:29:16 2021 From: rogermoyer1 at hotmail.com (Roger Moyer) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Lewis County Rarities Message-ID: While birding around Chehalis today Jerry Swena and I had a couple good birds. We had a Sora calling along the Rail Trail off Tune Road. We also had a Cinnamon Teal at mile marker 9 along Lincoln Creek Rd. Roger Moyer Chehalis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birdmarymoor at gmail.com Sat May 15 18:37:55 2021 From: birdmarymoor at gmail.com (birdmarymoor@gmail.com) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: References: <937055913.1428891.1621122524230@ichabod.co-bxl> Message-ID: Dennis - I've seen King County state the goal of reducing Reed Canary-Grass. This particular area in Redmond was a big, flat, Reed Canary-Grass meadow. They constructed the ponds and planted the willows which, they probably would say, are there to shade out the grass. (There may also be some Rules imposed by the state, or Federally, prohibiting leaving exposed mud, for fear that it will lead to turbidity in stream water, but that shouldn't be applicable in areas that are as level as this meadow). I think planting willows to get rid of Reed Canary-Grass is misguided. They did this on 204th St. down in the Kent area, converting a weedy farm field that seasonally flooded (providing excellent shorebird habitat) into a dense willow grove of many acres. The willows are drying this area and, if left alone, it will eventually become a Doug Fir forest in all likelihood. It will never again be a wetland. It's like they never took a Wetlands Ecology course, in which they might have learned the sequence of wetland succession. Willows coming in is the final stage, leading to soil drying and the deposition of additional soil. Only a major flood/scouring event will revert a willow thicket back to a nascent wetland (or beavers will do it, but they need an active stream to dam). I have long felt that educating the state and county about this should be the #1 priority of Seattle Audubon conservation efforts. Meadows should not be converted to forest, and wetland conservation should not destroy Class 3 wetlands by converting them to forests. = Michael -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Paulson Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM To: pan Cc: TWEETERS tweeters Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. Dennis Paulson Seattle > On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan wrote: > > Tweets, > > I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to > Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). > Just so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the wetlands > off Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. > Greater Yellowlegs, 3 > Spotted Sandpiper, 1 > Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 > Killdeer, ~4 > Blue-winged Teal, 1 > Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) > Great Blue Heron > Osprey > others, including a male Lazuli Bunting > > The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about 90th, > where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a yellowlegs > and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably close up in a > year or two with all the willows planted. > > 15 May, 2021, > > Alan Grenon > panmail AT mailfence.com > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From downess at charter.net Sat May 15 18:59:46 2021 From: downess at charter.net (Scott Downes) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E97728A-BD38-453F-BBAA-94F5FE63CDEC@charter.net> Michael, Dennis, Alan and other interested Tweeters. Completely agree on this and some of the other habitat restoration. Often it gets way too ?cookbook?, I.e. let?s plant them all the same instead of looking at habitat value and what habitat types are limited in the area. I believe the woody plant question comes from some of the cookbook wetland mitigation ratios developed. I think it would be an excellent engagement on this subject, probably starting with Dept of Ecology and Army Corp since they often are at the spear point of how wetland mitigation is directed. Scott Downes Downess@charter.net Yakima Wa > On May 15, 2021, at 6:40 PM, birdmarymoor@gmail.com wrote: > > ?Dennis - I've seen King County state the goal of reducing Reed Canary-Grass. This particular area in Redmond was a big, flat, Reed Canary-Grass meadow. They constructed the ponds and planted the willows which, they probably would say, are there to shade out the grass. (There may also be some Rules imposed by the state, or Federally, prohibiting leaving exposed mud, for fear that it will lead to turbidity in stream water, but that shouldn't be applicable in areas that are as level as this meadow). > > I think planting willows to get rid of Reed Canary-Grass is misguided. They did this on 204th St. down in the Kent area, converting a weedy farm field that seasonally flooded (providing excellent shorebird habitat) into a dense willow grove of many acres. The willows are drying this area and, if left alone, it will eventually become a Doug Fir forest in all likelihood. It will never again be a wetland. > > It's like they never took a Wetlands Ecology course, in which they might have learned the sequence of wetland succession. Willows coming in is the final stage, leading to soil drying and the deposition of additional soil. Only a major flood/scouring event will revert a willow thicket back to a nascent wetland (or beavers will do it, but they need an active stream to dam). > > I have long felt that educating the state and county about this should be the #1 priority of Seattle Audubon conservation efforts. Meadows should not be converted to forest, and wetland conservation should not destroy Class 3 wetlands by converting them to forests. > > = Michael > > -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Paulson > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM > To: pan > Cc: TWEETERS tweeters > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. > > We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? > > I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. > > Dennis Paulson > Seattle > >> On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan wrote: >> >> Tweets, >> >> I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). Just so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the wetlands off Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. >> Greater Yellowlegs, 3 >> Spotted Sandpiper, 1 >> Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 >> Killdeer, ~4 >> Blue-winged Teal, 1 >> Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) >> Great Blue Heron >> Osprey >> others, including a male Lazuli Bunting >> >> The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably close up in a year or two with all the willows planted. >> >> 15 May, 2021, >> >> Alan Grenon >> panmail AT mailfence.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From jemskink at gmail.com Sat May 15 19:06:52 2021 From: jemskink at gmail.com (Joan Miller) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Orange-crowned Warbler Message-ID: I heard and saw my first Orange-crowned warbler of the year just now. Hope there will be more! Joan Miller West Seattle jemskink at gmail dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevechampton at gmail.com Sat May 15 21:36:01 2021 From: stevechampton at gmail.com (Steve Hampton) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: <0E97728A-BD38-453F-BBAA-94F5FE63CDEC@charter.net> References: <0E97728A-BD38-453F-BBAA-94F5FE63CDEC@charter.net> Message-ID: Dennis et al, I've seen this same battle fought -- and lost -- in the San Francisco Bay area, where agencies would rather let spartina take over than manage for shorebirds, which generally requires active mgmt of water levels, as much an art as a science, especially if you're juggling tides, water quality issues, mosquitos, etc. The SF Bay Bird Observatory (SFBBO) collected lots of data and fought hard for shorebirds but ultimately got minimal results. Years ago I wrote a paper on successful shorebird habitat creation at a managed wetland in Davis, CA. That paper is here and provides some evidence that it is possible: http://www.cvbirds.org/wp-content/themes/cvbirds/files/V.3no.4/V.3no.4pp54-59.pdf I'm sure SFBBO has more material. On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 7:02 PM Scott Downes wrote: > Michael, Dennis, Alan and other interested Tweeters. Completely agree on > this and some of the other habitat restoration. Often it gets way too > ?cookbook?, I.e. let?s plant them all the same instead of looking at > habitat value and what habitat types are limited in the area. > I believe the woody plant question comes from some of the cookbook wetland > mitigation ratios developed. I think it would be an excellent engagement on > this subject, probably starting with Dept of Ecology and Army Corp since > they often are at the spear point of how wetland mitigation is directed. > > Scott Downes > Downess@charter.net > Yakima Wa > > > On May 15, 2021, at 6:40 PM, birdmarymoor@gmail.com wrote: > > > > ?Dennis - I've seen King County state the goal of reducing Reed > Canary-Grass. This particular area in Redmond was a big, flat, Reed > Canary-Grass meadow. They constructed the ponds and planted the willows > which, they probably would say, are there to shade out the grass. (There > may also be some Rules imposed by the state, or Federally, prohibiting > leaving exposed mud, for fear that it will lead to turbidity in stream > water, but that shouldn't be applicable in areas that are as level as this > meadow). > > > > I think planting willows to get rid of Reed Canary-Grass is misguided. > They did this on 204th St. down in the Kent area, converting a weedy farm > field that seasonally flooded (providing excellent shorebird habitat) into > a dense willow grove of many acres. The willows are drying this area and, > if left alone, it will eventually become a Doug Fir forest in all > likelihood. It will never again be a wetland. > > > > It's like they never took a Wetlands Ecology course, in which they might > have learned the sequence of wetland succession. Willows coming in is the > final stage, leading to soil drying and the deposition of additional soil. > Only a major flood/scouring event will revert a willow thicket back to a > nascent wetland (or beavers will do it, but they need an active stream to > dam). > > > > I have long felt that educating the state and county about this should > be the #1 priority of Seattle Audubon conservation efforts. Meadows should > not be converted to forest, and wetland conservation should not destroy > Class 3 wetlands by converting them to forests. > > > > = Michael > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Paulson > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM > > To: pan > > Cc: TWEETERS tweeters > > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > > > Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why > people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly > destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake > Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other > constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their > own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for > shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes > established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some > other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished > before the trees blocked them. > > > > We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and > wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? > > > > I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be > good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. > There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. > > > > Dennis Paulson > > Seattle > > > >> On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan wrote: > >> > >> Tweets, > >> > >> I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to > Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). Just > so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the wetlands off > Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. > >> Greater Yellowlegs, 3 > >> Spotted Sandpiper, 1 > >> Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 > >> Killdeer, ~4 > >> Blue-winged Teal, 1 > >> Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) > >> Great Blue Heron > >> Osprey > >> others, including a male Lazuli Bunting > >> > >> The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about > 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a > yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably close > up in a year or two with all the willows planted. > >> > >> 15 May, 2021, > >> > >> Alan Grenon > >> panmail AT mailfence.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tweeters mailing list > >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu > >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tweeters mailing list > > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > > Tweeters mailing list > > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birders.2341 at comcast.net Sat May 15 22:11:21 2021 From: birders.2341 at comcast.net (Tom Merritt) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: References: <0E97728A-BD38-453F-BBAA-94F5FE63CDEC@charter.net> Message-ID: <002c01d74a11$e955c210$bc014630$@comcast.net> All: Not that I any real academic level biological knowledge or significant birding knowledge, but still having been involved in birding for many years, having lived in the Puget Sound Basin since 1959 and having been an electrical engineer involved in many public works projects, I have some understanding on how the restoration design process works. Firstly, the primary emphasis is salmon habitat restoration. The ACOE has developed certain guidelines - there may be numerical scores and of course the ones that favor salmon habitat restoration are highly favored. Willows and other woody plants provide shade and cover for salmon and other fish species as well as for birds. Such plants also prevent erosion. Then the designers of these restoration projects are always operating under extremely limited budgets and do not have time to develop any real original design approaches for the site. Almost always the funding for the restoration projects comes from other mega-projects and is very limited. To get the design and construction completed within the budget, the designers are basically forced to use what we perceive as a cookie cutter approach. Developing a fully site-specific design that might depart from the ACOE design guidelines would require far too much coordination. The design criteria would typically require following ACOE design guidelines, even though they may not be the best approach for a particular site. But following those guidelines is safe. When the ACOE reviews the design, not following the guidelines would certainly be a red flag. In my perception that was certainly the case at the Montlake fill site. The funding for that was just a small sliver of the overall funding for the 520-project. The Fill restoration was just a small line item in the overall budget and probably got Just passing attention from the project management. With all this focus, the overall design and construction budget for the Fill was very limited. Despite the emphasis in the birding community towards more open muddy areas for shorebird habitat, that did not receive significant attention during the design process. Additionally, there are numerous other competing community interests, including horticultural, and the perceptions of the public just walking through, who may or may not appreciate the significance of good shorebird habitat. All these considerations plus the budgetary limitations certainly forced the Fill landscape architects towards the design that was implemented. I mentioned the review process above. Often the time allotted for a review is limited. With ACOE, the review process may be more properly budgeted and developed, but the individuals doing the review have other responsibilities as well. During my professional career, there were times when I was tasked with doing an electrical design review for a major project and had less than 8 hours to become familiar with the project and provide detailed comments. Anyway. that is my point-of-view from having been active in the birding community and having been on the other side as well. And as Steve Hampton writes the agencies always have extremely limited operations and maintenance budgets. As designers, that was always a major consideration, in that the design had to have low operation and maintenance costs. Tom Merritt Seattle From: Tweeters On Behalf Of Steve Hampton Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 21:36 To: Tweeters Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Dennis et al, I've seen this same battle fought -- and lost -- in the San Francisco Bay area, where agencies would rather let spartina take over than manage for shorebirds, which generally requires active mgmt of water levels, as much an art as a science, especially if you're juggling tides, water quality issues, mosquitos, etc. The SF Bay Bird Observatory (SFBBO) collected lots of data and fought hard for shorebirds but ultimately got minimal results. Years ago I wrote a paper on successful shorebird habitat creation at a managed wetland in Davis, CA. That paper is here and provides some evidence that it is possible: http://www.cvbirds.org/wp-content/themes/cvbirds/files/V.3no.4/V.3no.4pp54-59.pdf I'm sure SFBBO has more material. On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 7:02 PM Scott Downes > wrote: Michael, Dennis, Alan and other interested Tweeters. Completely agree on this and some of the other habitat restoration. Often it gets way too ?cookbook?, I.e. let?s plant them all the same instead of looking at habitat value and what habitat types are limited in the area. I believe the woody plant question comes from some of the cookbook wetland mitigation ratios developed. I think it would be an excellent engagement on this subject, probably starting with Dept of Ecology and Army Corp since they often are at the spear point of how wetland mitigation is directed. Scott Downes Downess@charter.net Yakima Wa > On May 15, 2021, at 6:40 PM, birdmarymoor@gmail.com wrote: > > ?Dennis - I've seen King County state the goal of reducing Reed Canary-Grass. This particular area in Redmond was a big, flat, Reed Canary-Grass meadow. They constructed the ponds and planted the willows which, they probably would say, are there to shade out the grass. (There may also be some Rules imposed by the state, or Federally, prohibiting leaving exposed mud, for fear that it will lead to turbidity in stream water, but that shouldn't be applicable in areas that are as level as this meadow). > > I think planting willows to get rid of Reed Canary-Grass is misguided. They did this on 204th St. down in the Kent area, converting a weedy farm field that seasonally flooded (providing excellent shorebird habitat) into a dense willow grove of many acres. The willows are drying this area and, if left alone, it will eventually become a Doug Fir forest in all likelihood. It will never again be a wetland. > > It's like they never took a Wetlands Ecology course, in which they might have learned the sequence of wetland succession. Willows coming in is the final stage, leading to soil drying and the deposition of additional soil. Only a major flood/scouring event will revert a willow thicket back to a nascent wetland (or beavers will do it, but they need an active stream to dam). > > I have long felt that educating the state and county about this should be the #1 priority of Seattle Audubon conservation efforts. Meadows should not be converted to forest, and wetland conservation should not destroy Class 3 wetlands by converting them to forests. > > = Michael > > -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Paulson > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM > To: pan > Cc: TWEETERS tweeters > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. > > We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? > > I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. > > Dennis Paulson > Seattle > >> On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan > wrote: >> >> Tweets, >> >> I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). Just so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the wetlands off Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. >> Greater Yellowlegs, 3 >> Spotted Sandpiper, 1 >> Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 >> Killdeer, ~4 >> Blue-winged Teal, 1 >> Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) >> Great Blue Heron >> Osprey >> others, including a male Lazuli Bunting >> >> The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably close up in a year or two with all the willows planted. >> >> 15 May, 2021, >> >> Alan Grenon >> panmail AT mailfence.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA Qatay, S'Klallam territory -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevechampton at gmail.com Sun May 16 06:28:19 2021 From: stevechampton at gmail.com (Steve Hampton) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: <002c01d74a11$e955c210$bc014630$@comcast.net> References: <0E97728A-BD38-453F-BBAA-94F5FE63CDEC@charter.net> <002c01d74a11$e955c210$bc014630$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Tom et al, Well stated. I will add that the few times we got funds dedicated to shorebird habitat, including mgmt, was thru specific mitigation processes that required shorebirds to be addressed. This happened several times thru oil spill settlements (the natural resource damage assessment and restoration process), and also thru public construction projects that required mitigation specifically for lost shorebird habitat. On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 10:11 PM Tom Merritt wrote: > All: > > > > Not that I any real academic level biological knowledge or significant > birding knowledge, but still having been involved in birding for many > years, having lived in the Puget Sound Basin since 1959 and having been an > electrical engineer involved in many public works projects, I have some > understanding on how the restoration design process works. Firstly, the > primary emphasis is salmon habitat restoration. The ACOE has developed > certain guidelines - there may be numerical scores and of course the ones > that favor salmon habitat restoration are highly favored. Willows and > other woody plants provide shade and cover for salmon and other fish > species as well as for birds. Such plants also prevent erosion. Then the > designers of these restoration projects are always operating under > extremely limited budgets and do not have time to develop any real original > design approaches for the site. Almost always the funding for the > restoration projects comes from other mega-projects and is very limited. > To get the design and construction completed within the budget, the > designers are basically forced to use what we perceive as a cookie cutter > approach. Developing a fully site-specific design that might depart from > the ACOE design guidelines would require far too much coordination. The > design criteria would typically require following ACOE design guidelines, > even though they may not be the best approach for a particular site. But > following those guidelines is safe. When the ACOE reviews the design, not > following the guidelines would certainly be a red flag. In my perception > that was certainly the case at the Montlake fill site. The funding for > that was just a small sliver of the overall funding for the 520-project. > The Fill restoration was just a small line item in the overall budget and > probably got Just passing attention from the project management. With all > this focus, the overall design and construction budget for the Fill was > very limited. Despite the emphasis in the birding community towards more > open muddy areas for shorebird habitat, that did not receive significant > attention during the design process. Additionally, there are numerous > other competing community interests, including horticultural, and the > perceptions of the public just walking through, who may or may not > appreciate the significance of good shorebird habitat. All these > considerations plus the budgetary limitations certainly forced the Fill > landscape architects towards the design that was implemented. I mentioned > the review process above. Often the time allotted for a review is > limited. With ACOE, the review process may be more properly budgeted and > developed, but the individuals doing the review have other responsibilities > as well. During my professional career, there were times when I was tasked > with doing an electrical design review for a major project and had less > than 8 hours to become familiar with the project and provide detailed > comments. > > > > Anyway. that is my point-of-view from having been active in the birding > community and having been on the other side as well. And as Steve Hampton > writes the agencies always have extremely limited operations and > maintenance budgets. As designers, that was always a major consideration, > in that the design had to have low operation and maintenance costs. > > > > Tom Merritt > > Seattle > > > > > > *From:* Tweeters *On Behalf > Of *Steve Hampton > *Sent:* Saturday, May 15, 2021 21:36 > *To:* Tweeters > *Subject:* Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > > > Dennis et al, > > > > I've seen this same battle fought -- and lost -- in the San Francisco Bay > area, where agencies would rather let spartina take over than manage for > shorebirds, which generally requires active mgmt of water levels, as much > an art as a science, especially if you're juggling tides, water quality > issues, mosquitos, etc. The SF Bay Bird Observatory (SFBBO) collected lots > of data and fought hard for shorebirds but ultimately got minimal results. > > > > Years ago I wrote a paper on successful shorebird habitat creation at a > managed wetland in Davis, CA. That paper is here and provides some evidence > that it is possible: > http://www.cvbirds.org/wp-content/themes/cvbirds/files/V.3no.4/V.3no.4pp54-59.pdf > > > > I'm sure SFBBO has more material. > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 7:02 PM Scott Downes wrote: > > Michael, Dennis, Alan and other interested Tweeters. Completely agree on > this and some of the other habitat restoration. Often it gets way too > ?cookbook?, I.e. let?s plant them all the same instead of looking at > habitat value and what habitat types are limited in the area. > I believe the woody plant question comes from some of the cookbook wetland > mitigation ratios developed. I think it would be an excellent engagement on > this subject, probably starting with Dept of Ecology and Army Corp since > they often are at the spear point of how wetland mitigation is directed. > > Scott Downes > Downess@charter.net > Yakima Wa > > > On May 15, 2021, at 6:40 PM, birdmarymoor@gmail.com wrote: > > > > ?Dennis - I've seen King County state the goal of reducing Reed > Canary-Grass. This particular area in Redmond was a big, flat, Reed > Canary-Grass meadow. They constructed the ponds and planted the willows > which, they probably would say, are there to shade out the grass. (There > may also be some Rules imposed by the state, or Federally, prohibiting > leaving exposed mud, for fear that it will lead to turbidity in stream > water, but that shouldn't be applicable in areas that are as level as this > meadow). > > > > I think planting willows to get rid of Reed Canary-Grass is misguided. > They did this on 204th St. down in the Kent area, converting a weedy farm > field that seasonally flooded (providing excellent shorebird habitat) into > a dense willow grove of many acres. The willows are drying this area and, > if left alone, it will eventually become a Doug Fir forest in all > likelihood. It will never again be a wetland. > > > > It's like they never took a Wetlands Ecology course, in which they might > have learned the sequence of wetland succession. Willows coming in is the > final stage, leading to soil drying and the deposition of additional soil. > Only a major flood/scouring event will revert a willow thicket back to a > nascent wetland (or beavers will do it, but they need an active stream to > dam). > > > > I have long felt that educating the state and county about this should > be the #1 priority of Seattle Audubon conservation efforts. Meadows should > not be converted to forest, and wetland conservation should not destroy > Class 3 wetlands by converting them to forests. > > > > = Michael > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Paulson > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM > > To: pan > > Cc: TWEETERS tweeters > > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > > > Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why > people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly > destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake > Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other > constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their > own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for > shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes > established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some > other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished > before the trees blocked them. > > > > We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and > wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? > > > > I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be > good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. > There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. > > > > Dennis Paulson > > Seattle > > > >> On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan wrote: > >> > >> Tweets, > >> > >> I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to > Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). Just > so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the wetlands off > Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. > >> Greater Yellowlegs, 3 > >> Spotted Sandpiper, 1 > >> Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 > >> Killdeer, ~4 > >> Blue-winged Teal, 1 > >> Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) > >> Great Blue Heron > >> Osprey > >> others, including a male Lazuli Bunting > >> > >> The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about > 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a > yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably close > up in a year or two with all the willows planted. > >> > >> 15 May, 2021, > >> > >> Alan Grenon > >> panmail AT mailfence.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tweeters mailing list > >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu > >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tweeters mailing list > > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > > Tweeters mailing list > > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > > > > -- > > Steve Hampton > > Port Townsend, WA > > *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* > > > -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dennispaulson at comcast.net Sun May 16 07:32:35 2021 From: dennispaulson at comcast.net (Dennis Paulson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: <002c01d74a11$e955c210$bc014630$@comcast.net> References: <0E97728A-BD38-453F-BBAA-94F5FE63CDEC@charter.net> <002c01d74a11$e955c210$bc014630$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Tom, thanks for the good information. I see your point entirely, and I understand it, as I worked for a firm of architects and landscape architects for 15 years, including on some habitat-based projects. I know there are limitations in budgets and deadlines and reviews. And indeed managing for salmon by planting woody vegetation was one of the aspects often cited in the plan for Montlake Fill. But of course even the mention of managing for salmon in a series of isolated small ponds is enough to make anyone scratch their head in puzzlement. In fact, at Montlake fill we made a tremendous fuss during the review process, brought in Seattle Audubon Society and had meetings with some agency personnel where I expounded on shorebird migration and conservation, and they remained completely inflexible. So in this case it wasn?t at all because they were uninformed. They had only one kind of cookie cutter in their kitchen and had no interest in exchanging it for another. I wonder if there is any chance of changing this attitude. Dennis Paulson Seattle > On May 15, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Tom Merritt wrote: > > All: > > Not that I any real academic level biological knowledge or significant birding knowledge, but still having been involved in birding for many years, having lived in the Puget Sound Basin since 1959 and having been an electrical engineer involved in many public works projects, I have some understanding on how the restoration design process works. Firstly, the primary emphasis is salmon habitat restoration. The ACOE has developed certain guidelines - there may be numerical scores and of course the ones that favor salmon habitat restoration are highly favored. Willows and other woody plants provide shade and cover for salmon and other fish species as well as for birds. Such plants also prevent erosion. Then the designers of these restoration projects are always operating under extremely limited budgets and do not have time to develop any real original design approaches for the site. Almost always the funding for the restoration projects comes from other mega-projects and is very limited. To get the design and construction completed within the budget, the designers are basically forced to use what we perceive as a cookie cutter approach. Developing a fully site-specific design that might depart from the ACOE design guidelines would require far too much coordination. The design criteria would typically require following ACOE design guidelines, even though they may not be the best approach for a particular site. But following those guidelines is safe. When the ACOE reviews the design, not following the guidelines would certainly be a red flag. In my perception that was certainly the case at the Montlake fill site. The funding for that was just a small sliver of the overall funding for the 520-project. The Fill restoration was just a small line item in the overall budget and probably got Just passing attention from the project management. With all this focus, the overall design and construction budget for the Fill was very limited. Despite the emphasis in the birding community towards more open muddy areas for shorebird habitat, that did not receive significant attention during the design process. Additionally, there are numerous other competing community interests, including horticultural, and the perceptions of the public just walking through, who may or may not appreciate the significance of good shorebird habitat. All these considerations plus the budgetary limitations certainly forced the Fill landscape architects towards the design that was implemented. I mentioned the review process above. Often the time allotted for a review is limited. With ACOE, the review process may be more properly budgeted and developed, but the individuals doing the review have other responsibilities as well. During my professional career, there were times when I was tasked with doing an electrical design review for a major project and had less than 8 hours to become familiar with the project and provide detailed comments. > > Anyway. that is my point-of-view from having been active in the birding community and having been on the other side as well. And as Steve Hampton writes the agencies always have extremely limited operations and maintenance budgets. As designers, that was always a major consideration, in that the design had to have low operation and maintenance costs. > > Tom Merritt > Seattle > > > From: Tweeters > On Behalf Of Steve Hampton > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 21:36 > To: Tweeters > > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > Dennis et al, > > I've seen this same battle fought -- and lost -- in the San Francisco Bay area, where agencies would rather let spartina take over than manage for shorebirds, which generally requires active mgmt of water levels, as much an art as a science, especially if you're juggling tides, water quality issues, mosquitos, etc. The SF Bay Bird Observatory (SFBBO) collected lots of data and fought hard for shorebirds but ultimately got minimal results. > > Years ago I wrote a paper on successful shorebird habitat creation at a managed wetland in Davis, CA. That paper is here and provides some evidence that it is possible: http://www.cvbirds.org/wp-content/themes/cvbirds/files/V.3no.4/V.3no.4pp54-59.pdf > > I'm sure SFBBO has more material. > > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 7:02 PM Scott Downes > wrote: >> Michael, Dennis, Alan and other interested Tweeters. Completely agree on this and some of the other habitat restoration. Often it gets way too ?cookbook?, I.e. let?s plant them all the same instead of looking at habitat value and what habitat types are limited in the area. >> I believe the woody plant question comes from some of the cookbook wetland mitigation ratios developed. I think it would be an excellent engagement on this subject, probably starting with Dept of Ecology and Army Corp since they often are at the spear point of how wetland mitigation is directed. >> >> Scott Downes >> Downess@charter.net >> Yakima Wa >> >> > On May 15, 2021, at 6:40 PM, birdmarymoor@gmail.com wrote: >> > >> > ?Dennis - I've seen King County state the goal of reducing Reed Canary-Grass. This particular area in Redmond was a big, flat, Reed Canary-Grass meadow. They constructed the ponds and planted the willows which, they probably would say, are there to shade out the grass. (There may also be some Rules imposed by the state, or Federally, prohibiting leaving exposed mud, for fear that it will lead to turbidity in stream water, but that shouldn't be applicable in areas that are as level as this meadow). >> > >> > I think planting willows to get rid of Reed Canary-Grass is misguided. They did this on 204th St. down in the Kent area, converting a weedy farm field that seasonally flooded (providing excellent shorebird habitat) into a dense willow grove of many acres. The willows are drying this area and, if left alone, it will eventually become a Doug Fir forest in all likelihood. It will never again be a wetland. >> > >> > It's like they never took a Wetlands Ecology course, in which they might have learned the sequence of wetland succession. Willows coming in is the final stage, leading to soil drying and the deposition of additional soil. Only a major flood/scouring event will revert a willow thicket back to a nascent wetland (or beavers will do it, but they need an active stream to dam). >> > >> > I have long felt that educating the state and county about this should be the #1 priority of Seattle Audubon conservation efforts. Meadows should not be converted to forest, and wetland conservation should not destroy Class 3 wetlands by converting them to forests. >> > >> > = Michael >> > >> > -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Paulson >> > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM >> > To: pan >> > Cc: TWEETERS tweeters >> > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) >> > >> > Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. >> > >> > We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? >> > >> > I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. >> > >> > Dennis Paulson >> > Seattle >> > >> >> On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan > wrote: >> >> >> >> Tweets, >> >> >> >> I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). Just so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the wetlands off Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. >> >> Greater Yellowlegs, 3 >> >> Spotted Sandpiper, 1 >> >> Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 >> >> Killdeer, ~4 >> >> Blue-winged Teal, 1 >> >> Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) >> >> Great Blue Heron >> >> Osprey >> >> others, including a male Lazuli Bunting >> >> >> >> The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably close up in a year or two with all the willows planted. >> >> >> >> 15 May, 2021, >> >> >> >> Alan Grenon >> >> panmail AT mailfence.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Tweeters mailing list >> >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Tweeters mailing list >> > Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Tweeters mailing list >> > Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > > -- > Steve Hampton > Port Townsend, WA > Qatay, S'Klallam territory > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tsbrennan at hotmail.com Sun May 16 07:46:41 2021 From: tsbrennan at hotmail.com (Tim Brennan) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Douglas County 5/13-15 Message-ID: Hello! I got back late last night from my May trip to Douglas County, and just wanted to pass along some sightings and sites that were new/surprising/productive. On Thursday evening, I got over early, and had a handful of FOY county birds: Yellow Warbler, Black-headed Grosbeak, Cedar Waxwing, Western Kingbird, and Bullock's Oriole. I went in wearing shorts... in a place with tall grass... on a warm Eastern Washington day. Just a reminder to anyone heading over that tick season has begun. I only found one to brush off at the end of the day, but talked to someone who came away from the same location with something north of 40 ticks. Bird Fest is in swing in the Wenatchee/Leavenworth corridor, so on Friday 6 AM, I joined a field trip to Badger Mountain with Mark Johnston and Richard Scranton. They had done some great scouting, and took us through sage, riparian, and ponderosa pine habitat. Naturally we came out with dozens of species, with bird song all around us most of the morning, and opportunities to see many of the flycatchers and sparrows in the scope singing. For year-list purposes, the best bird of the trip was a Ruffed Grouse along Indian Camp Road, a code 4 bird for which I had few leads. After things wrapped up at lunch, I got to Jameson Lake, adding Rock Wren and White-throated Swift along the way. I wanted to make sure to let birders know that Jak's Resort, which burned down in the Labor Day fires, has set up shop again, and could certainly use some support. At the lake, there were plenty of ducks and swallows, as well as any and every icterid you could reasonably expect (Yellow-headed Blackbirds are so much fun to listen to...). Additionally, I picked up Eastern Kingbird, Caspian Tern, and then a Lark Sparrow as I took the East Access Road out. Shorebirds were a nope. I tried all of the regular spots on the East side of the plateau and came up empty. On Sunday, I hit the Northeast Corner of the county, across the river from Grand Coulee dam, and north of 174. It was a new area for me, so I took a good three hours to make my way down Pendall Rex Road (why is Rex on nearly all of the road names?) and then China Creek Road nearly to the Columbia. It was 58 species for the morning, including FOY Eared Grebe and Gray Partridge (finally!). The checklist for that trip is here: eBird Checklist - 15 May 2021 - NE Douglas - 58 species if anyone wanted more details on that area. Other new birds came in pairs. I stopped at nearly a dozen different lakes/ponds along 174 and finally got some shorebirds at the pond near McCabe Road. Black-necked Stilts were fun to find, and Wilson's Phalaropes were new for the year. Grasshopper Sparrows are making their way in, and I got to hear one singing from some hidden spot as well. East Foster Creek along highway 17 is not as full as it has been in other trips, but one of the wetter areas had Common Yellowthroat and Virginia Rail. Finally, heading up Central Ferry Canyon I came across a Bank Swallow colony near the bottom, and a Lewis's Woodpecker from the road just north of Packwood Cemetery, where the road breaks out of the pines. I'll add updates at www.douglascountybirding.blogspot.com over the next few days. Cheers, Tim Brennan Renton tsbrennan at hotmail dot com Douglas County Birding A dozen or so birding trips to Douglas County in Washington State in 2021, featuring stunning landscapes, decent pictures of food, and forgettable images of birds. www.douglascountybirding.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tsbrennan at hotmail.com Sun May 16 09:22:48 2021 From: tsbrennan at hotmail.com (Tim Brennan) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Atkins Lake question Message-ID: Hello again! I got a question emailed to me, and I have the same question: What's up with Atkins Lake? There's a location on eBird, and nearly any mapping software will put a big blue blob in the same spot, but at present, it's empty with what appears to be new plantings. A block or so to the west, there's a sizable pond/flooded field/lake... there's a bunch of water. Is that Atkins Lake now? has that other lake always been there? Will the other Atkins Lake come back? Is this just like... a crop circle situation where people come out at night and move lakes and blame it on aliens? Bird-wise, we just want the shorebirds back, but my curiosity now officially extends beyond that. To me it was interesting that Atkins Jr (that's its name now) had no shorebirds, and just a handful of ducks, despite having some decent mud on its shores. Cheers, Tim Brennan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdanzenbaker at gmail.com Sun May 16 10:30:15 2021 From: jdanzenbaker at gmail.com (Jim Danzenbaker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] perception of spring migration In-Reply-To: References: <1940332975.500772.1621090473302.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1940332975.500772.1621090473302@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Andy, Gary, and Tweeters, I really appreciate this thread as it addresses a concern of mine regarding what I've been seeing in the quantity of neotropical migrants at my usual birding haunts in Clark County this year. Like many (or probably most) of you, the return of neotropical migrants into our area is a sign that things are as they should be - nature is on it's regular cycle, birds are singing, their song and color are in the air, and we're all trying to capture the moments with binoculars and cameras, eBird checklists, and etched memories. This year, I was really looking forward to the second half of April when the first returning warblers would appear in my yard, dawn choruses would be enhanced with their song, flashes of yellow would appear in the bushes, etc. It didn't happen. The beginning of May came and went - hardly any warblers, tanagers, flycatchers, etc. Mid-May is here and there are a few neotropical returnees around but nothing like what I would have expected. Last year, I had migrant birds everywhere in my neighborhood and it seemed that most other places being reported on tweeters were experiencing similar numbers. My dataset only covers two years since I am usually out of town from mid April through at least the 20th of May (except last year of course). The analyst in me wanted to know why but, obviously, I could only come up with speculation such as: 1.) The April and May weather has been stunningly beautiful - if you like that kind of thing. It seems like most days have been 100% sunshine, none of the scattered showers with cooler temps. This may have been great for the migrants but not great for those of us looking for the migrants. Are the birds just cruising overhead to their breeding sites without being knocked out of the sky by bad weather and into our neighborhoods? Reports of Orange-crowned Warblers and Pacific-slope Flycatchers etc being seen in the usual numbers on their breeding grounds north of me were driving me crazy. Good for the migrants! 2.) The Cornell study stated that bird numbers have dropped by 3 billion. This is obviously tragic but it didn't happen from last year to this year. This happened over time so I don't think this would skew the numbers from last year to this year as much as the drop in birds from last year to this year that I've seen. 3.) All the fires from last year that extended from Washington through California probably had an impact because these fires were burning in the Fall when our neotropical migrants were heading south. If any of us were having a hard time breathing with the amount of smoke in the air, what must it have been like for our feathered friends trying to breath as they passed through these impacted areas? Did we lose a higher than average number of neotropical migrants during the fires? 4.) The catastrophic loss of birds that occurred in the Rockys last Fall as a result of an early storm and accompanying cold weather may have impacted birds that would have been returning to our area. Estimates of the number of birds killed in that one event number in the millions. 5.) Did some as yet undetermined event happen on their wintering grounds or passage areas that we may not know about? Who knows. Obviously the only way to get a handle on the number of birds that have returned to our area or that have successfully arrived back to their usual breeding haunts will be best determined by the results of Breeding Bird Surveys. We can only hope that #1 above is the main reason for seeing lower than the usual number of neotropical migrants. In the meantime, I wholeheartedly agree with Andy when he stated... "Advocacy for birds is extremely important right now and we can all contribute to that effort and I encourage all of us to support an organization working for birds and legislation to support birds and their habitat needs." Sorry, I've taken up too much of your time so I'll sign off. Keep your ears and eyes skyward! Cheers. Jim Battle Ground, Clark County On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 5:35 PM Andy McCormick wrote: > Hello Tweeters, > > This is an important conversation regarding the numbers of birds in this > spring?s migration. Gary?s data are important and help provide a longer > term basis for assessment. Michael?s long history at Marymoor Park will > also provide some good perspective. The unevenness in the reporting with > scarcity reported in some places and good numbers in others is another > important factor to consider. > We are all aware of the hammering that neotropical migrants have been > taking over the past few decades from habitat loss, insecticides killing > their food sources, and a warming climate disrupting the previously more > stable annual rhythm of life. The Cornell report of 3 billion birds, that > is 1/3 of North American birds, lost in the past 30 years cautioned that > this trend in the decline of birds is likely to continue. Similar declines are > occurring in the Africa to Europe and Asia bird migrations. > With 1/3 fewer birds migrating we are less likely to see a widespread > influx of birds, and the spotty and uneven clusters of migrating birds we > are experiencing is a likely outcome of this population decline and a > more likely scenario for our birding future, unless we turn around the > ongoing decline of these beautiful birds. > Advocacy for birds is extremely important right now and we can all > contribute to that effort and I encourage all of us to support an > organization working for birds and legislation to support birds and their > habitat needs. We have done it before with banning DDT and saving the Bald > Eagle, Peregrine Falcon, and Brown Pelican. We can do it again for migrating > birds. > > Regards to all, > > Andy McCormick > Bellevue, WA > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tweeters on behalf > of Gary Bletsch > *Sent:* Saturday, May 15, 2021 7:55 AM > *To:* Tweeters Tweeters > *Subject:* [Tweeters] perception of spring migration > > Dear Tweeters, > > Thanks to one and all for the interesting reports of spring migrants. > Although I do remember saying to some birding friends that migration seemed > a bit thin or slow, it has not seemed markedly so. I just checked my > records for the first twelve days of May, covering the years 2018, 2019, > 2020, and 2021, Skagit County only. My birding effort was similar in these > four years. Here is a summary from these data. > > 2018, 4418 birds of 132 species. > > 2019, 2948 birds of 121 species. > > 2020, 5434 birds of 144 species. > > 2021, 5809 birds of 129 species. > > To me, these data show 2021 to be unremarkable. 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URL: From birders.2341 at comcast.net Sun May 16 10:30:22 2021 From: birders.2341 at comcast.net (Tom Merritt) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: References: <0E97728A-BD38-453F-BBAA-94F5FE63CDEC@charter.net> <002c01d74a11$e955c210$bc014630$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000001d74a79$2d4f7800$87ee6800$@comcast.net> Dennis, Steve, et all: I truly wish there was a means of changing the attitude. One way would be for there to be recognition in the design criteria for a restoration project that the ACOE guidelines do not need to be rigidly followed and for those guidelines to be more flexible. That would require political recognition at the beginning that an allowance for design flexibility needs to be incorporated into the design process for restoration projects. That would require considerable effort at public education, which at best is a slow process. But nevertheless, over time I feel progress is being made. Years ago, wetlands mitigation measures would never have been a part of the Highway 520 project. In fact, when it was originally built in the early 1960s, then Governor Rosellini pushed it through despite much opposition. There was virtually no consideration of mitigation. At least during the reconstruction there has been provision for mitigation, though perhaps not adequate and in the case of the Fill poorly implemented. A good measure of the progress that is slowly occurring is the article in today?s Seattle Times regarding King County?s effort to inventory culverts to enable fish passage. It is an example of the public education required. It was focused on salmon passage, which is important, but incorporation of provisions for shorebird habitat could also be incorporated into that effort where applicable. Additionally, Lynda Mapes could have perhaps incorporated some text regarding shorebird habitat. Perhaps, if the birding and conservation communities could write some letters incorporation of provisions for shorebird habitat to the appropriate agencies and to Executive Constantine some progress could be made. I will close for now, since I have other things, I must do. But I will research it and try to determine some contact information, then post it to Tweeters. Nevertheless, let us realize that the landscape architects are professionals and are doing their job. They are oftentimes working under severe constraints. It the design criteria made provision for flexibility and to design for shorebird habitat, where applicable, they will be perfectly happy to do so. Steve Hampton in his comments made clear the importance of getting the necessary provisions for flexibility and incorporation for shorebird habitat where applicable in the basic design criteria and even in the initial scoping processes, to include making input into Environmental Impact Assessments at the very start of a project. That is something important but is sometimes overlooked. Tom Merritt Seattle From: Dennis Paulson ; Tweeters tweeters@uw.edu Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 07:33 To: Tom Merritt Cc: Steve Hampton ; Tweeters Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Tom, thanks for the good information. I see your point entirely, and I understand it, as I worked for a firm of architects and landscape architects for 15 years, including on some habitat-based projects. I know there are limitations in budgets and deadlines and reviews. And indeed managing for salmon by planting woody vegetation was one of the aspects often cited in the plan for Montlake Fill. But of course even the mention of managing for salmon in a series of isolated small ponds is enough to make anyone scratch their head in puzzlement. In fact, at Montlake fill we made a tremendous fuss during the review process, brought in Seattle Audubon Society and had meetings with some agency personnel where I expounded on shorebird migration and conservation, and they remained completely inflexible. So in this case it wasn?t at all because they were uninformed. They had only one kind of cookie cutter in their kitchen and had no interest in exchanging it for another. I wonder if there is any chance of changing this attitude. Dennis Paulson Seattle On May 15, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Tom Merritt > wrote: All: Not that I any real academic level biological knowledge or significant birding knowledge, but still having been involved in birding for many years, having lived in the Puget Sound Basin since 1959 and having been an electrical engineer involved in many public works projects, I have some understanding on how the restoration design process works. Firstly, the primary emphasis is salmon habitat restoration. The ACOE has developed certain guidelines - there may be numerical scores and of course the ones that favor salmon habitat restoration are highly favored. Willows and other woody plants provide shade and cover for salmon and other fish species as well as for birds. Such plants also prevent erosion. Then the designers of these restoration projects are always operating under extremely limited budgets and do not have time to develop any real original design approaches for the site. Almost always the funding for the restoration projects comes from other mega-projects and is very limited. To get the design and construction completed within the budget, the designers are basically forced to use what we perceive as a cookie cutter approach. Developing a fully site-specific design that might depart from the ACOE design guidelines would require far too much coordination. The design criteria would typically require following ACOE design guidelines, even though they may not be the best approach for a particular site. But following those guidelines is safe. When the ACOE reviews the design, not following the guidelines would certainly be a red flag. In my perception that was certainly the case at the Montlake fill site. The funding for that was just a small sliver of the overall funding for the 520-project. The Fill restoration was just a small line item in the overall budget and probably got Just passing attention from the project management. With all this focus, the overall design and construction budget for the Fill was very limited. Despite the emphasis in the birding community towards more open muddy areas for shorebird habitat, that did not receive significant attention during the design process. Additionally, there are numerous other competing community interests, including horticultural, and the perceptions of the public just walking through, who may or may not appreciate the significance of good shorebird habitat. All these considerations plus the budgetary limitations certainly forced the Fill landscape architects towards the design that was implemented. I mentioned the review process above. Often the time allotted for a review is limited. With ACOE, the review process may be more properly budgeted and developed, but the individuals doing the review have other responsibilities as well. During my professional career, there were times when I was tasked with doing an electrical design review for a major project and had less than 8 hours to become familiar with the project and provide detailed comments. Anyway. that is my point-of-view from having been active in the birding community and having been on the other side as well. And as Steve Hampton writes the agencies always have extremely limited operations and maintenance budgets. As designers, that was always a major consideration, in that the design had to have low operation and maintenance costs. Tom Merritt Seattle From: Tweeters > On Behalf Of Steve Hampton Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 21:36 To: Tweeters > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Dennis et al, I've seen this same battle fought -- and lost -- in the San Francisco Bay area, where agencies would rather let spartina take over than manage for shorebirds, which generally requires active mgmt of water levels, as much an art as a science, especially if you're juggling tides, water quality issues, mosquitos, etc. The SF Bay Bird Observatory (SFBBO) collected lots of data and fought hard for shorebirds but ultimately got minimal results. Years ago I wrote a paper on successful shorebird habitat creation at a managed wetland in Davis, CA. That paper is here and provides some evidence that it is possible: http://www.cvbirds.org/wp-content/themes/cvbirds/files/V.3no.4/V.3no.4pp54-59.pdf I'm sure SFBBO has more material. On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 7:02 PM Scott Downes > wrote: Michael, Dennis, Alan and other interested Tweeters. Completely agree on this and some of the other habitat restoration. Often it gets way too ?cookbook?, I.e. let?s plant them all the same instead of looking at habitat value and what habitat types are limited in the area. I believe the woody plant question comes from some of the cookbook wetland mitigation ratios developed. I think it would be an excellent engagement on this subject, probably starting with Dept of Ecology and Army Corp since they often are at the spear point of how wetland mitigation is directed. Scott Downes Downess@charter.net Yakima Wa > On May 15, 2021, at 6:40 PM, birdmarymoor@gmail.com wrote: > > ?Dennis - I've seen King County state the goal of reducing Reed Canary-Grass. This particular area in Redmond was a big, flat, Reed Canary-Grass meadow. They constructed the ponds and planted the willows which, they probably would say, are there to shade out the grass. (There may also be some Rules imposed by the state, or Federally, prohibiting leaving exposed mud, for fear that it will lead to turbidity in stream water, but that shouldn't be applicable in areas that are as level as this meadow). > > I think planting willows to get rid of Reed Canary-Grass is misguided. They did this on 204th St. down in the Kent area, converting a weedy farm field that seasonally flooded (providing excellent shorebird habitat) into a dense willow grove of many acres. The willows are drying this area and, if left alone, it will eventually become a Doug Fir forest in all likelihood. It will never again be a wetland. > > It's like they never took a Wetlands Ecology course, in which they might have learned the sequence of wetland succession. Willows coming in is the final stage, leading to soil drying and the deposition of additional soil. Only a major flood/scouring event will revert a willow thicket back to a nascent wetland (or beavers will do it, but they need an active stream to dam). > > I have long felt that educating the state and county about this should be the #1 priority of Seattle Audubon conservation efforts. Meadows should not be converted to forest, and wetland conservation should not destroy Class 3 wetlands by converting them to forests. > > = Michael > > -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Paulson > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM > To: pan > Cc: TWEETERS tweeters > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. > > We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? > > I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. > > Dennis Paulson > Seattle > >> On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan > wrote: >> >> Tweets, >> >> I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). Just so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the wetlands off Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. >> Greater Yellowlegs, 3 >> Spotted Sandpiper, 1 >> Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 >> Killdeer, ~4 >> Blue-winged Teal, 1 >> Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) >> Great Blue Heron >> Osprey >> others, including a male Lazuli Bunting >> >> The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably close up in a year or two with all the willows planted. >> >> 15 May, 2021, >> >> Alan Grenon >> panmail AT mailfence.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA Qatay, S'Klallam territory _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kloshewoods at outlook.com Sun May 16 12:26:19 2021 From: kloshewoods at outlook.com (Jerry Tangren) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Atkins Lake question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The amount of water in Atkins Lake, and many of the other lakes on the Waterville Plateau, depends upon a variety of factors. The amount of precipitation is only one, but it has been very dry this past winter and spring. Another factor is crop rotation, which affects drainage into the low spots, such as Atkins Lake. Farmers on the Waterville Plateau only plant a specific field every other year as it takes two years of moisture to produce a suitable crop. So, yes, Atkins Lake as well as the ponds on Heritage Rd and others, come and go. When Atkins Lake is good, it?s very good. When it?s dry, the grower grows wheat. ?Jerry Tangren East Wenatchee Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Tweeters on behalf of Tim Brennan Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 9:22:48 AM To: Tweeters ; Inland-nw-birders Subject: [Tweeters] Atkins Lake question Hello again! I got a question emailed to me, and I have the same question: What's up with Atkins Lake? There's a location on eBird, and nearly any mapping software will put a big blue blob in the same spot, but at present, it's empty with what appears to be new plantings. A block or so to the west, there's a sizable pond/flooded field/lake... there's a bunch of water. Is that Atkins Lake now? has that other lake always been there? Will the other Atkins Lake come back? Is this just like... a crop circle situation where people come out at night and move lakes and blame it on aliens? Bird-wise, we just want the shorebirds back, but my curiosity now officially extends beyond that. To me it was interesting that Atkins Jr (that's its name now) had no shorebirds, and just a handful of ducks, despite having some decent mud on its shores. Cheers, Tim Brennan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zoramon at mac.com Sun May 16 13:13:53 2021 From: zoramon at mac.com (Zora Dermer) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] perception of spring migration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: With regards to points 3 and 4, studies of migratory birds found dead in New Mexico last fall determined that the likely cause of death was long-term starvation. While the very early cold snap and snow storm didn?t help matters for the birds, smoke was not as much of an issue. The fires, on the other hand, are likely contributing to the issue of starvation by decimating habitat, including food sources, for these birds. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/southwest-bird-die-caused-long-term-starvation-180976643/ Zora Dermer Sent from my iPad > On May 16, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Jim Danzenbaker wrote: > 3.) All the fires from last year that extended from Washington through California probably had an impact because these fires were burning in the Fall when our neotropical migrants were heading south. If any of us were having a hard time breathing with the amount of smoke in the air, what must it have been like for our feathered friends trying to breath as they passed through these impacted areas? Did we lose a higher than average number of neotropical migrants during the fires? > > 4.) The catastrophic loss of birds that occurred in the Rockys last Fall as a result of an early storm and accompanying cold weather may have impacted birds that would have been returning to our area. Estimates of the number of birds killed in that one event number in the millions. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy_mcc at hotmail.com Sun May 16 13:29:57 2021 From: andy_mcc at hotmail.com (Andy McCormick) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: References: <937055913.1428891.1621122524230@ichabod.co-bxl> Message-ID: Dennis, Michael, Alan, and others, We at Eastside Audubon are hoping to make a change in this practice of planting willows in wetland areas. We agree that it is bad for shorebirds. We are actively involved with King County Parks, which has a plan to create a second channel for the Sammamish River in Marymoor Park in Redmond. This area also has large areas of Reed Canary grass and we have the challenge of dealing with the county on how to manage that. We have a committee that is conducting a survey of birds in this area prior to construction of this channel. A final plan has not been agreed upon yet, and we want to influence it. We have about two years to document the birds of the area before construction begins and the bird and habitat data will provide a basis for our plant and design recommendations. Our surveys are conducted quarterly and are ongoing. In addition to documenting the birds in this area west of the river, with the help of the Puget Sound Bird Observatory we have developed a survey design that will also document which habitats, plants, grass, and trees, various bird species are using. A stated goal of our involvement is to make recommendations for plantings and to include managing for shorebirds in the final design of the river channel. I see this project having the potential to influence these types of designs so that future plans for salmon restoration will also include restoration for birds. We are well-organized and have had a good response from volunteers who are participating in the surveys. We have surveyed in three seasons so far and will soon have our first year of data collected. Andy McCormick Bellevue, WA -----Original Message----- From: Tweeters On Behalf Of birdmarymoor@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:38 PM To: Dennis Paulson Cc: Tweeters ; Alan Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Dennis - I've seen King County state the goal of reducing Reed Canary-Grass. This particular area in Redmond was a big, flat, Reed Canary-Grass meadow. They constructed the ponds and planted the willows which, they probably would say, are there to shade out the grass. (There may also be some Rules imposed by the state, or Federally, prohibiting leaving exposed mud, for fear that it will lead to turbidity in stream water, but that shouldn't be applicable in areas that are as level as this meadow). I think planting willows to get rid of Reed Canary-Grass is misguided. They did this on 204th St. down in the Kent area, converting a weedy farm field that seasonally flooded (providing excellent shorebird habitat) into a dense willow grove of many acres. The willows are drying this area and, if left alone, it will eventually become a Doug Fir forest in all likelihood. It will never again be a wetland. It's like they never took a Wetlands Ecology course, in which they might have learned the sequence of wetland succession. Willows coming in is the final stage, leading to soil drying and the deposition of additional soil. Only a major flood/scouring event will revert a willow thicket back to a nascent wetland (or beavers will do it, but they need an active stream to dam). I have long felt that educating the state and county about this should be the #1 priority of Seattle Audubon conservation efforts. Meadows should not be converted to forest, and wetland conservation should not destroy Class 3 wetlands by converting them to forests. = Michael -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Paulson Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM To: pan Cc: TWEETERS tweeters Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don't know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It's been done at Montlake Fill, it's been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it's been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds-clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? I don't know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. Dennis Paulson Seattle > On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan wrote: > > Tweets, > > I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to > Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). > Just so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the > wetlands off Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. > Greater Yellowlegs, 3 > Spotted Sandpiper, 1 > Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 > Killdeer, ~4 > Blue-winged Teal, 1 > Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) Great > Blue Heron Osprey others, including a male Lazuli Bunting > > The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about > 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a > yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably > close up in a year or two with all the willows planted. > > 15 May, 2021, > > Alan Grenon > panmail AT mailfence.com > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailma > n11.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftweeters&data=04%7C01% > 7C%7C80256f93e77a453aedfe08d9180b6671%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaa > aa%7C1%7C0%7C637567259502948576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLj > AwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata= > oejj2h0x5eqBSpGObD4rZFTS0mRi6x3tLJaKvlSD4zU%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman11.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftweeters&data=04%7C01%7C%7C80256f93e77a453aedfe08d9180b6671%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637567259502948576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=oejj2h0x5eqBSpGObD4rZFTS0mRi6x3tLJaKvlSD4zU%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman11.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftweeters&data=04%7C01%7C%7C80256f93e77a453aedfe08d9180b6671%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637567259502948576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=oejj2h0x5eqBSpGObD4rZFTS0mRi6x3tLJaKvlSD4zU%3D&reserved=0 From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Sun May 16 13:42:24 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Andy, Thank you for the information. Why would a new channel be constructed and where would it be located? Thank you, Dan Reiff Mercer Island Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Andy McCormick wrote: > > ?Dennis, Michael, Alan, and others, > > We at Eastside Audubon are hoping to make a change in this practice of planting willows in wetland areas. We agree that it is bad for shorebirds. We are actively involved with King County Parks, which has a plan to create a second channel for the Sammamish River in Marymoor Park in Redmond. This area also has large areas of Reed Canary grass and we have the challenge of dealing with the county on how to manage that. > We have a committee that is conducting a survey of birds in this area prior to construction of this channel. A final plan has not been agreed upon yet, and we want to influence it. We have about two years to document the birds of the area before construction begins and the bird and habitat data will provide a basis for our plant and design recommendations. > Our surveys are conducted quarterly and are ongoing. In addition to documenting the birds in this area west of the river, with the help of the Puget Sound Bird Observatory we have developed a survey design that will also document which habitats, plants, grass, and trees, various bird species are using. > A stated goal of our involvement is to make recommendations for plantings and to include managing for shorebirds in the final design of the river channel. I see this project having the potential to influence these types of designs so that future plans for salmon restoration will also include restoration for birds. We are well-organized and have had a good response from volunteers who are participating in the surveys. We have surveyed in three seasons so far and will soon have our first year of data collected. > > Andy McCormick > Bellevue, WA > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tweeters On Behalf Of birdmarymoor@gmail.com > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:38 PM > To: Dennis Paulson > Cc: Tweeters ; Alan > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > Dennis - I've seen King County state the goal of reducing Reed Canary-Grass. > This particular area in Redmond was a big, flat, Reed Canary-Grass meadow. > They constructed the ponds and planted the willows which, they probably would say, are there to shade out the grass. (There may also be some Rules imposed by the state, or Federally, prohibiting leaving exposed mud, for fear that it will lead to turbidity in stream water, but that shouldn't be applicable in areas that are as level as this meadow). > > I think planting willows to get rid of Reed Canary-Grass is misguided. They did this on 204th St. down in the Kent area, converting a weedy farm field that seasonally flooded (providing excellent shorebird habitat) into a dense willow grove of many acres. The willows are drying this area and, if left alone, it will eventually become a Doug Fir forest in all likelihood. It will never again be a wetland. > > It's like they never took a Wetlands Ecology course, in which they might have learned the sequence of wetland succession. Willows coming in is the final stage, leading to soil drying and the deposition of additional soil. > Only a major flood/scouring event will revert a willow thicket back to a nascent wetland (or beavers will do it, but they need an active stream to dam). > > I have long felt that educating the state and county about this should be the #1 priority of Seattle Audubon conservation efforts. Meadows should not be converted to forest, and wetland conservation should not destroy Class 3 wetlands by converting them to forests. > > = Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Paulson > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM > To: pan > Cc: TWEETERS tweeters > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don't know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It's been done at Montlake Fill, it's been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it's been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds-clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. > > We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? > > I don't know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. > > Dennis Paulson > Seattle > >> On May 15, 2021, at 4:48 PM, pan wrote: >> >> Tweets, >> >> I made the wrong decision last minute this morning and went east to >> Redmond rather than my usual Discovery Park (where goodies reported). >> Just so you know it's not a given, I spent an hour scoping the >> wetlands off Avondale Road around 85th, and did not see Pectoral Sandpiper. >> Greater Yellowlegs, 3 >> Spotted Sandpiper, 1 >> Long-billed Dowitcher, 1 >> Killdeer, ~4 >> Blue-winged Teal, 1 >> Cinnamon Teal, 1 (a couple females unidentified at distance) Great >> Blue Heron Osprey others, including a male Lazuli Bunting >> >> The farthest east pond, also farthest from view, across from about >> 90th, where a couple Pectorals were reported yesterday, had only a >> yellowlegs and a couple crows wading. These wetlands will probably >> close up in a year or two with all the willows planted. >> >> 15 May, 2021, >> >> Alan Grenon >> panmail AT mailfence.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailma >> n11.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftweeters&data=04%7C01% >> 7C%7C80256f93e77a453aedfe08d9180b6671%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaa >> aa%7C1%7C0%7C637567259502948576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLj >> AwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata= >> oejj2h0x5eqBSpGObD4rZFTS0mRi6x3tLJaKvlSD4zU%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman11.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftweeters&data=04%7C01%7C%7C80256f93e77a453aedfe08d9180b6671%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637567259502948576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=oejj2h0x5eqBSpGObD4rZFTS0mRi6x3tLJaKvlSD4zU%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman11.u.washington.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftweeters&data=04%7C01%7C%7C80256f93e77a453aedfe08d9180b6671%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637567259502948576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=oejj2h0x5eqBSpGObD4rZFTS0mRi6x3tLJaKvlSD4zU%3D&reserved=0 > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From markrodg at uw.edu Sun May 16 14:42:17 2021 From: markrodg at uw.edu (Mark Rodgers) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Student project about Union Bay Natural Area Message-ID: Hi Tweeters, Some-time lurker, first-time poster here. This quarter, I?m teaching a course called ?Music, Birdsong, and the Limits of the Human? in the Honors Program here at UW. I?m happy to correspond with folks who are interested in what I'm doing in this course off-list, but that?s not why I?m writing. I?m writing because one of my students is creating a podcast episode about the Union Bay Natural Area (aka Montlake Fill) for his final project. As part of the project, he?s hoping to interview folks who regularly go birdwatching at the site. Below is a brief message he?s written to introduce himself: "Hello! My name is Ido Avnon. I am a freshman at UW perusing Computer Science and Education, though I have recently fallen in love with birdwatching. I am interested in hearing from more experienced birders like you about the Montlake Fill/Union Bay Natural Area and general experiences in the field. If you are interested in setting up an interview, feel free to shoot me a text (2063999783 ) or email (idoavnon@uw.edu). Thank you!" If you are a regular at the UBNA, I hope you will consider sharing your experiences with Ido! He's a very smart and thoughtful student, and I?m really excited about the episode he's producing. Please don?t hesitate to reach out to me if you have any questions or concerns. Best wishes, Mark Rodgers (he/him) Lecturer in Music History School of Music University of Washington The University of Washington acknowledges the Coast Salish peoples of this land, the land which touches the shared waters of all tribes and bands within the Suquamish, Tulalip and Muckleshoot nations. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garybletsch at yahoo.com Sun May 16 18:39:24 2021 From: garybletsch at yahoo.com (Gary Bletsch) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] habitat changes References: <963833391.592106.1621215564984.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <963833391.592106.1621215564984@mail.yahoo.com> Dear Tweeters, Thanks and kudos to the experts who have commented on the topic of habitat management. This is a subject that makes my blood pressure rise. I have held back from writing to Tweeters about this for a few days, but here goes. I hope I don't step on any toes. Perhaps this is just "venting," but in my view, habitat projects rarely excite anything but skepticism.? In my neck of the woods, Skagit County, there are many places that are dubbed "habitat restoration projects" or "habitat rehabilitation projects." These places figure in the itineraries of many birders. Many if not most of these projects turn good birding places into humdrum ones. Part of the problem is the mania for planting trees.? Of course, I love the aphorism coined by Martin Luther, half a millennium ago: "And if I knew that the world would end tomorrow, I would still plant a little apple tree today." It's a charming and cheery thought. However, not every piece of land is "improved" by the planting of trees, or for that matter, shrubs--at least not from a birder's perspective, and certainly not from a shorebird's or a Horned Lark's. An example of misguided tree-planting is the Marblemount Boat Launch. Birders have been finding vagrants there for decades. However, somebody has decided that it would be a good idea to plant trees and shrubs in the field there. I was told by a long-time local resident that that field had been burned by the Indians, to maintain it as a berry patch, for centuries. Much of the tree and shrub plantings are over a hundred meters from the Skagit River and the Cascade River. Perhaps I am speaking out of ichthyological ignorance here, but I can't see how planting trees that far from the water would benefit salmon. Meanwhile, the various open-country bird species that use that field will soon be out of a habitat. It will be just another woodland. Just west of Lyman is a little gem called Nichols Bar. Skagit County has renamed the place, but I still call it what everyone called it before that. This place has benefitted from being protected. There is no doubt of that. Local yokels no longer ride dirt bikes and quads on the river bar here. The junked vehicles and trash-heaps have long since been removed. Still, I can't understand why it was deemed wise to plant trees in the little clearing here. It was only a half an acre or so, well removed from the river. It was probably an old homesite. Some birds of more open country used to be found there, but it becoming part of the forest now. Moreover, the various trails that once led into that forest were all planted with trees. Now those trails are gone. There is no longer a loop to walk, just an out-and-back. Only with a machete could one enter the forest here, so thick is the brush. I doubt I'm the only one who wonders why trees were planted in a forest! My cynical guess is that whoever planted the trees in the designated areas found themselves with a surplus, so they planted them deep in the woods. The Green Road Pond, sometimes called Green Road Slough, is a wetland on the Butler Flats, north of Burlington. It used to be a good shorebirding spot. It was also good for other water birds. A Black Tern and a Tufted Duck were two of the surprises that turned up there. About ten years ago, for some reason, heavy equipment was used to move the earth around in that wetland. As far as I can tell, Green Road Pond is a far poorer spot for water birds now, compared to the time before that "improvement" was made. American Bitterns were once easy to see there. I have not detected one there since shortly after the habitat was "improved." Soras are harder to find now. Other than Killdeer, shorebirds almost never turn up. The site does not look all that different from what it used to look like, except that there is now a dense growth of cattails and other marsh plants, where there used to be larger areas of open water, interspersed with marsh vegetation. The Washington State Department of Transportation owns a parcel on the western outskirts of Burlington, along McCorquedale Road. In 2007, when I first noticed the site, there was a big, seasonal wetland there. Over the following three years, I found 12 species of shorebirds in that one little spot. However, right about that time, someone decided to "improve" the site by planting shrubs. Within a couple of years, that shorebird spot ceased to exist. It is now a thicket. I am sure that they are all "good" native shrubs, but they are home to little more than White-crowned Sparrows, Bushtits, and the like. Those species have many options in our area. Pectoral Sandpipers and Red-necked Phalaropes, not so much. About the best I have seen among the habitat changes in Skagit--I cannot bring myself to call them improvements or restorations--would be in sites where the result is a wash, no pun on wetlands intended. An example would be the Headquarters Unit of the Skagit Wildlife Management Area, variously known as the Game Range or Wylie Slough. This was our best place for wintering sparrows. It was also a good place for shorebirds, especially if one walked the wet fields in spring migration. Now it is a superb shorebird spot--to be fair, better for shorebirds than it was before--but we have lost our only spot where American Tree Sparrows were relatively easy to find. I doubt whether a Green-tailed Towhee will decide to winter there again, as one did in the 1990's. It is still an excellent place for birds, and for birding, but I would not say that it is better now. It is just different. It's nice to see a win for shorebirds for once, but I do miss those Tree Sparrows! Today I took a walk at Barnaby Slough, one of the loveliest birding spots in Skagit County. Quite a few surprising birds have turned up here, including Least Flycatcher, Grey Flycatcher, Black-and-White Warbler, Lark Sparrow, and Grey Catbird. A huge habitat project is about to be undertaken at the "Barnaby Reach." Telltale pieces of flagging tape are dangling here and there. When that project is completed, the place will most likely be utterly different. I am not at all sure whether people will be able to get there without a boat. My walk today was a bittersweet one. Barnaby Slough is a wonderful, quiet, isolated place. Not many visitors came there when it was a fish hatchery, and fewer people visit there now. I have a hard time imagining that the "new and improved" version will match what we have there now. There is not much time left to enjoy the place in its current, beautiful form. Habitat projects make people feel good. High-school and college students volunteer to plant native trees and shrubs. My own daughter did that. She was so proud of the planting! I bit my tongue and said nought.? The leaders of conservation groups, scientists at various agencies, and of course politicians--they can all feel proud that they have done the right thing. "At least we're doing something!" I just wish that they would put more thought into these changes before attempting them--especially where shorebird habitat is concerned. Yours truly, Gary Bletsch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The JBLM Eagles Pride GC birders meet the third Thursday of each month at 8:00AM. Starting point is Bldg # 1514, Driving Range Tee, Eagles Pride Golf Course, I-5 Exit 116, Mounts Road Exit. Effective May 14, JBLM has the following Covid-19 guidelines: Fully vaccinated personnel (who are at least two weeks beyond their final dose) are no longer required to wear a mask indoors or outdoors on JBLM. Masks are still required, regardless of vaccination status, at medical treatment centers/hospitals, public transportation, and facilities that primarily serve children. I'm not going to be checking vaccination status and will be trusting you that attend the birdwalk to follow the Army's guidelines. If you haven't yet been fully vaccinated, please do wear a mask. Also, to remind folks that haven't been here before, you don't need any ID to attend these birdwalks. Hope you're able to make it! 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Now 434 lifers. https://pbase.com/alndonna/image/170903402 Next I went to eBird to see how common they were. In 20 years, only 1 has been reported between Idaho and Darrington, WA. Really rare. I thought about telling Tweeters, but they like to report recent sightings. Al in Tacoma -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Sun May 16 21:54:44 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Swainson's Thrushes: Full Song Message-ID: Heard four different Swainson's thrushes this evening between 8:30 and 9:00. All did calls and full song. They recently arrived. As usual, the songs were at lower volume than they will be in about a week. So good to hear them again. Dan Reiff MI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.R.Scuderi at usace.army.mil Mon May 17 09:13:26 2021 From: Michael.R.Scuderi at usace.army.mil (Scuderi, Michael R CIV USARMY CENWS (USA)) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: <00ce01d749f1$2e3db160$8ab91420$@comcast.net> References: <937055913.1428891.1621122524230@ichabod.co-bxl> <00ce01d749f1$2e3db160$8ab91420$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Kelly is right. The debate on the value of shorebird habitat goes back at least to the Auburn Downs Racetrack wetland mitigation in the mid-1990s. At that point Dr. Tom Hruby from Department of Ecology was developing the percussor to the current Washington State Wetland rating system. There were four major functions being assessed, Water Quality, Hydrologic functions, Fish habitat, and wildlife habitat. At that time, for wildlife habitat, there was a dichotomy between wetland models which ranked forested wetlands which favored riparian species (Bob Zeigler did a lot of work on this), and open water wetlands which supported waterfowl and shorebirds. At the time most people were not noticing the decline in freshwater wetlands, and were more worried about reestablishment of the forested wetlands that once predominated the Puget Sound lowlands (for a fun look at what was here check out Dawson and Bowles, 1909). To my chagrin, the forested wetland people won out, these wetlands get higher credit in mitigation formulas used then and now. That is in my opinion why we are seeing the drive towards more forested wetlands. A second factor is the buffer zone. One of the criteria used in the current Washington state wetland model is interspersion. A typical marsh with open water, mudflat, and then a rush/reed fringe gets a lower score than if you have a forested buffer around it (more interspersion). Finally, if you create a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) Priority Habitat, you get a higher score. Forested wetlands are a priority habitat. Freshwater emergent habitat is not a priority habitat. Of course WDFW could be petitioned to make freshwater shorebird habitat a priority habitat. So basically, the books are stacked against wetlands that contain shorebird habitat. In addition, there are more maintenance costs in keeping up open water and mudflats, either through maintaining high water levels, eliminating reed canary grass, and removing encroaching willows and other water loving woody vegetation. This is a project that local Audubons and WOS might consider taking on to protect disappearing shorebird habitat. The M Street marsh in Auburn could be a good example to consider for shorebird/waterfowl habitat, though surveyors were out there recently (which is usually not a good thing). Mike Scuderi Cotinga777@yahoo.com Kent, WA -----Original Message----- From: mcallisters4@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:17 PM To: 'TWEETERS tweeters' Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) During the debate about wetland "restoration" and mitigation credits for the work at the Montlake Fill I weighed in agreeing with Dennis and the idea that the "highest and best" habitat value for this location was early successional wetland habitat that would be more likely to attract and provide basic support for species that have a difficult time finding suitable habitat elsewhere, like shorebirds. The primary wetland regulators in Washington, the Department of Ecology and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, establish how much credit given for creating different kinds of wetland conditions. A typical late successional type with a strong willow or shrub component gets the most credits, I believe. It would cost less to forego the planting of willows, Spiraea, and other woody plants, and, perhaps, the compensation could be a commitment to periodically set back succession to maintain open muddy shorelines and shallows. Kelly McAllister Formerly WSDOT, Olympia -----Original Message----- From: Tweeters On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM To: pan Cc: TWEETERS tweeters Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. Dennis Paulson Seattle From stevechampton at gmail.com Mon May 17 09:30:35 2021 From: stevechampton at gmail.com (Steve Hampton) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: References: <937055913.1428891.1621122524230@ichabod.co-bxl> <00ce01d749f1$2e3db160$8ab91420$@comcast.net> Message-ID: It seems there's a basic education need, even among non-birder biologists, about shorebirds and their migratory stopover needs. This is of course a huge public topic in the East re: the Red Knot. In the West, I know Arcata, CA hosts Godwit Days every year as a birding festival-- and to raise local awareness about shorebird migratory stopover habitat. Perhaps organizations in Puget Sound can do something similar? On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 9:24 AM Scuderi, Michael R CIV USARMY CENWS (USA) < Michael.R.Scuderi@usace.army.mil> wrote: > Kelly is right. The debate on the value of shorebird habitat goes back at > least to the Auburn Downs Racetrack wetland mitigation in the mid-1990s. At > that point Dr. Tom Hruby from Department of Ecology was developing the > percussor to the current Washington State Wetland rating system. There > were four major functions being assessed, Water Quality, Hydrologic > functions, Fish habitat, and wildlife habitat. At that time, for wildlife > habitat, there was a dichotomy between wetland models which ranked forested > wetlands which favored riparian species (Bob Zeigler did a lot of work on > this), and open water wetlands which supported waterfowl and shorebirds. > At the time most people were not noticing the decline in freshwater > wetlands, and were more worried about reestablishment of the forested > wetlands that once predominated the Puget Sound lowlands (for a fun look at > what was here check out Dawson and Bowles, 1909). To my chagrin, the > forested wetland people won out, these wetlands get higher credit in > mitigation formulas used then and now. That is in my opinion why we are > seeing the drive towards more forested wetlands. > > A second factor is the buffer zone. One of the criteria used in the > current Washington state wetland model is interspersion. A typical marsh > with open water, mudflat, and then a rush/reed fringe gets a lower score > than if you have a forested buffer around it (more interspersion). > > Finally, if you create a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) > Priority Habitat, you get a higher score. Forested wetlands are a priority > habitat. Freshwater emergent habitat is not a priority habitat. Of course > WDFW could be petitioned to make freshwater shorebird habitat a priority > habitat. > > So basically, the books are stacked against wetlands that contain > shorebird habitat. In addition, there are more maintenance costs in > keeping up open water and mudflats, either through maintaining high water > levels, eliminating reed canary grass, and removing encroaching willows and > other water loving woody vegetation. > > This is a project that local Audubons and WOS might consider taking on to > protect disappearing shorebird habitat. The M Street marsh in Auburn could > be a good example to consider for shorebird/waterfowl habitat, though > surveyors were out there recently (which is usually not a good thing). > > Mike Scuderi > Cotinga777@yahoo.com > Kent, WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: mcallisters4@comcast.net > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:17 PM > To: 'TWEETERS tweeters' > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > During the debate about wetland "restoration" and mitigation credits for > the work at the Montlake Fill I weighed in agreeing with Dennis and the > idea that the "highest and best" habitat value for this location was early > successional wetland habitat that would be more likely to attract and > provide basic support for species that have a difficult time finding > suitable habitat elsewhere, like shorebirds. The primary wetland regulators > in Washington, the Department of Ecology and the U.S. Army Corps of > Engineers, establish how much credit given for creating different kinds of > wetland conditions. A typical late successional type with a strong willow > or shrub component gets the most credits, I believe. > > It would cost less to forego the planting of willows, Spiraea, and other > woody plants, and, perhaps, the compensation could be a commitment to > periodically set back succession to maintain open muddy shorelines and > shallows. > > Kelly McAllister > Formerly WSDOT, Olympia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tweeters On Behalf Of > Dennis Paulson > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM > To: pan > Cc: TWEETERS tweeters > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why > people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly > destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake > Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other > constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their > own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for > shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes > established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some > other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished > before the trees blocked them. > > We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and > wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? > > I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good > to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There > seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. > > Dennis Paulson > Seattle > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ellenblackstone at gmail.com Mon May 17 11:03:24 2021 From: ellenblackstone at gmail.com (Ellen Blackstone) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Bob Sundstrom, Gone Birding Message-ID: <87d96b82-b835-230c-1081-c6f3aaa3c579@gmail.com> Hello, Tweeters, Sad news here about Bob Sundstrom from his wife, Sally Alhadeff. Take care, Everyone, Ellen Blackstone Seattle ================= Bob Sundstrom passed away on May 16, 2021, after a recurrence of leukemia. He died comfortably and in good spirits at his home in the country along Scatter Creek in south Thurston County, in the company of his wife, Sally Alhadeff and their three cats. He was 69. Birds were a great love for Bob, as well as his career. He earned a living as a full-time professional birder: leading tours to many parts of the world for Victor Emanuel Nature Tours, conducting van trips from Mercer Island, teaching, and writing for radio. For thirty years Bob taught Birding by Ear for Seattle Audubon Society, helping many to know and appreciate the voices of birds. His writer?s voice will continue to be heard through nearly 900 BirdNote?radio stories he authored as Lead Writer. He continued writing into his final days, including a final story on May 14. He thanks founder Chris Peterson and Executive Director Sallie Bodie for the opportunity to be part of the BirdNote team. He was overwhelmed by the gratitude expressed for his career work in his last months. (https://www.birdnote.org/messages-bob-sundstrom) Bob liked to say that birds were his day job, but not his obsession. When not birding or writing, Bob loved books, music, bicycling, and single malt Scotch. He and Sally took great pleasure in gardening and tending the natural habitats on their rural acres. He became a great admirer of classic literature and poetry. He earned his Ph.D. in cultural anthropology at the University of Washington. Bob is survived by his wife, Sally Alhadeff, brother Bill Sundstrom, and nephews Ethan and Erin Sundstrom. His loving parents, Mary and Bill, are deceased. He thanks many friends and colleagues, the Olympia Unitarian Universalist congregation, and Sally?s family for their loving support. Sally and Bob had 28 wonderful years together. They loved watching the swallows glide and the ravens soar above their camas-covered meadow along Scatter Creek. 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Take care, Everyone, Ellen Blackstone Seattle ================= Bob Sundstrom passed away on May 16, 2021, after a recurrence of leukemia. He died comfortably and in good spirits at his home in the country along Scatter Creek in south Thurston County, in the company of his wife, Sally Alhadeff and their three cats. He was 69. Birds were a great love for Bob, as well as his career. He earned a living as a full-time professional birder: leading tours to many parts of the world for Victor Emanuel Nature Tours, conducting van trips from Mercer Island, teaching, and writing for radio. For thirty years Bob taught Birding by Ear for Seattle Audubon Society, helping many to know and appreciate the voices of birds. His writer?s voice will continue to be heard through nearly 900 BirdNote radio stories he authored as Lead Writer. He continued writing into his final days, including a final story on May 14. He thanks founder Chris Peterson and Executive Director Sallie Bodie for the opportunity to be part of the BirdNote team. He was overwhelmed by the gratitude expressed for his career work in his last months. (https://www.birdnote.org/messages-bob-sundstrom) Bob liked to say that birds were his day job, but not his obsession. When not birding or writing, Bob loved books, music, bicycling, and single malt Scotch. He and Sally took great pleasure in gardening and tending the natural habitats on their rural acres. He became a great admirer of classic literature and poetry. He earned his Ph.D. in cultural anthropology at the University of Washington. Bob is survived by his wife, Sally Alhadeff, brother Bill Sundstrom, and nephews Ethan and Erin Sundstrom. His loving parents, Mary and Bill, are deceased. He thanks many friends and colleagues, the Olympia Unitarian Universalist congregation, and Sally?s family for their loving support. Sally and Bob had 28 wonderful years together. They loved watching the swallows glide and the ravens soar above their camas-covered meadow along Scatter Creek. If you?d like to leave a remembrance in Bob?s name, please consider a donation to BirdNote (birdnote.org). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From downess at charter.net Mon May 17 11:22:38 2021 From: downess at charter.net (Scott Downes) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C35D5FE-0D92-4548-916C-F3104F81CD53@charter.net> I did want to comment on the WDFW PHS element below as that is a part of my job as a WDFW habitat biologist I?m versed in. All types of freshwater wetlands are a PHS habitat. Here is the definition straight from the PHS list: Freshwater Wetlands: Lands transitional between terrestrial and aquatic systems where the water table is usually at or near the surface or the land is covered by shallow water. Wetlands must have one or more of the following attributes: the land supports, at least periodically, predominantly hydrophytic plants; substrate is predominantly undrained hydric soils; and/or the substrate is nonsoil and is saturated with water or covered by shallow water at some time during the growing season of each year. So, reviewers could be interpreting the definition to mean forested has higher habitat priorities but nothing in the PHS definition targets forested wetlands over other types. Scott Downes Downess@charter.net Yakima Wa > On May 17, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Scuderi, Michael R CIV USARMY CENWS (USA) wrote: > > ?Kelly is right. The debate on the value of shorebird habitat goes back at least to the Auburn Downs Racetrack wetland mitigation in the mid-1990s. At that point Dr. Tom Hruby from Department of Ecology was developing the percussor to the current Washington State Wetland rating system. There were four major functions being assessed, Water Quality, Hydrologic functions, Fish habitat, and wildlife habitat. At that time, for wildlife habitat, there was a dichotomy between wetland models which ranked forested wetlands which favored riparian species (Bob Zeigler did a lot of work on this), and open water wetlands which supported waterfowl and shorebirds. At the time most people were not noticing the decline in freshwater wetlands, and were more worried about reestablishment of the forested wetlands that once predominated the Puget Sound lowlands (for a fun look at what was here check out Dawson and Bowles, 1909). To my chagrin, the forested wetland people won out, these wetlands get higher credit in mitigation formulas used then and now. That is in my opinion why we are seeing the drive towards more forested wetlands. > > A second factor is the buffer zone. One of the criteria used in the current Washington state wetland model is interspersion. A typical marsh with open water, mudflat, and then a rush/reed fringe gets a lower score than if you have a forested buffer around it (more interspersion). > > Finally, if you create a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) Priority Habitat, you get a higher score. Forested wetlands are a priority habitat. Freshwater emergent habitat is not a priority habitat. Of course WDFW could be petitioned to make freshwater shorebird habitat a priority habitat. > > So basically, the books are stacked against wetlands that contain shorebird habitat. In addition, there are more maintenance costs in keeping up open water and mudflats, either through maintaining high water levels, eliminating reed canary grass, and removing encroaching willows and other water loving woody vegetation. > > This is a project that local Audubons and WOS might consider taking on to protect disappearing shorebird habitat. The M Street marsh in Auburn could be a good example to consider for shorebird/waterfowl habitat, though surveyors were out there recently (which is usually not a good thing). > > Mike Scuderi > Cotinga777@yahoo.com > Kent, WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: mcallisters4@comcast.net > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:17 PM > To: 'TWEETERS tweeters' > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > During the debate about wetland "restoration" and mitigation credits for the work at the Montlake Fill I weighed in agreeing with Dennis and the idea that the "highest and best" habitat value for this location was early successional wetland habitat that would be more likely to attract and provide basic support for species that have a difficult time finding suitable habitat elsewhere, like shorebirds. The primary wetland regulators in Washington, the Department of Ecology and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, establish how much credit given for creating different kinds of wetland conditions. A typical late successional type with a strong willow or shrub component gets the most credits, I believe. > > It would cost less to forego the planting of willows, Spiraea, and other woody plants, and, perhaps, the compensation could be a commitment to periodically set back succession to maintain open muddy shorelines and shallows. > > Kelly McAllister > Formerly WSDOT, Olympia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tweeters On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM > To: pan > Cc: TWEETERS tweeters > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) > > Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. > > We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? > > I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. > > Dennis Paulson > Seattle > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.R.Scuderi at usace.army.mil Mon May 17 11:57:09 2021 From: Michael.R.Scuderi at usace.army.mil (Scuderi, Michael R CIV USARMY CENWS (USA)) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] [Non-DoD Source] Re: King County rarities (not) In-Reply-To: <2C35D5FE-0D92-4548-916C-F3104F81CD53@charter.net> References: <2C35D5FE-0D92-4548-916C-F3104F81CD53@charter.net> Message-ID: Scott is right. I stand corrected. The problem is how wetland functions raters interpret the WDFW priority habitats. Mike Scuderi Kent, WA Cotinga777@yahoo.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Downes Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:23 AM To: Scuderi, Michael R CIV USARMY CENWS (USA) Cc: TWEETERS tweeters Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) I did want to comment on the WDFW PHS element below as that is a part of my job as a WDFW habitat biologist I?m versed in. All types of freshwater wetlands are a PHS habitat. Here is the definition straight from the PHS list: Freshwater Wetlands: Lands transitional between terrestrial and aquatic systems where the water table is usually at or near the surface or the land is covered by shallow water. Wetlands must have one or more of the following attributes: the land supports, at least periodically, predominantly hydrophytic plants; substrate is predominantly undrained hydric soils; and/or the substrate is nonsoil and is saturated with water or covered by shallow water at some time during the growing season of each year. So, reviewers could be interpreting the definition to mean forested has higher habitat priorities but nothing in the PHS definition targets forested wetlands over other types. Scott Downes Downess@charter.net Yakima Wa On May 17, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Scuderi, Michael R CIV USARMY CENWS (USA) wrote: ?Kelly is right. The debate on the value of shorebird habitat goes back at least to the Auburn Downs Racetrack wetland mitigation in the mid-1990s. At that point Dr. Tom Hruby from Department of Ecology was developing the percussor to the current Washington State Wetland rating system. There were four major functions being assessed, Water Quality, Hydrologic functions, Fish habitat, and wildlife habitat. At that time, for wildlife habitat, there was a dichotomy between wetland models which ranked forested wetlands which favored riparian species (Bob Zeigler did a lot of work on this), and open water wetlands which supported waterfowl and shorebirds. At the time most people were not noticing the decline in freshwater wetlands, and were more worried about reestablishment of the forested wetlands that once predominated the Puget Sound lowlands (for a fun look at what was here check out Dawson and Bowles, 1909). To my chagrin, the forested wetland people won out, these wetlands get higher credit in mitigation formulas used then and now. That is in my opinion why we are seeing the drive towards more forested wetlands. A second factor is the buffer zone. One of the criteria used in the current Washington state wetland model is interspersion. A typical marsh with open water, mudflat, and then a rush/reed fringe gets a lower score than if you have a forested buffer around it (more interspersion). Finally, if you create a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) Priority Habitat, you get a higher score. Forested wetlands are a priority habitat. Freshwater emergent habitat is not a priority habitat. Of course WDFW could be petitioned to make freshwater shorebird habitat a priority habitat. So basically, the books are stacked against wetlands that contain shorebird habitat. In addition, there are more maintenance costs in keeping up open water and mudflats, either through maintaining high water levels, eliminating reed canary grass, and removing encroaching willows and other water loving woody vegetation. This is a project that local Audubons and WOS might consider taking on to protect disappearing shorebird habitat. The M Street marsh in Auburn could be a good example to consider for shorebird/waterfowl habitat, though surveyors were out there recently (which is usually not a good thing). Mike Scuderi Cotinga777@yahoo.com Kent, WA -----Original Message----- From: mcallisters4@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:17 PM To: 'TWEETERS tweeters' Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) During the debate about wetland "restoration" and mitigation credits for the work at the Montlake Fill I weighed in agreeing with Dennis and the idea that the "highest and best" habitat value for this location was early successional wetland habitat that would be more likely to attract and provide basic support for species that have a difficult time finding suitable habitat elsewhere, like shorebirds. The primary wetland regulators in Washington, the Department of Ecology and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, establish how much credit given for creating different kinds of wetland conditions. A typical late successional type with a strong willow or shrub component gets the most credits, I believe. It would cost less to forego the planting of willows, Spiraea, and other woody plants, and, perhaps, the compensation could be a commitment to periodically set back succession to maintain open muddy shorelines and shallows. Kelly McAllister Formerly WSDOT, Olympia -----Original Message----- From: Tweeters On Behalf Of Dennis Paulson Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 6:03 PM To: pan Cc: TWEETERS tweeters Subject: Re: [Tweeters] King County rarities (not) Alan, you made a good point here in your last sentence. I don?t know why people plant willows around wetlands like this, thereby fairly quickly destroying their value as shorebird habitat. It?s been done at Montlake Fill, it?s been done at Magnuson Park, and I know it?s been done at other constructed wetlands. Willows and cottonwoods come in soon enough on their own, and my recommendation has always been to actively manage for shorebirds?clear out the woody vegetation that invariably becomes established at such places and not only ruins it for shorebirds and some other wetland species but even eliminates the views that birders cherished before the trees blocked them. We have lots of trees in this area but not lots of open meadows and wetlands. What is not liked about the latter scarce habitats? I don?t know why the various agencies have this bias, and it would be good to bring out in the open and discuss in the environmental community. There seems to be no trace of an environmental master plan for the region. Dennis Paulson Seattle _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From g_g_allin at hotmail.com Mon May 17 13:15:06 2021 From: g_g_allin at hotmail.com (John Puschock) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Red-necked Phalarope at Veazie Marsh, King Co Message-ID: There is currently (1:15 PM PDT) a Red-necked Phalarope at the main pond at Veazie Marsh, north of Enumclaw. It's an eBird hotspot, so you can look that up for exact location. There's also a Wilson's Phalarope in the southwest corner of the wetland. Scope recommended but visible with just binoculars. John Puschock -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markgirling at yahoo.com Mon May 17 13:27:10 2021 From: markgirling at yahoo.com (mark girling) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King County rarities References: <209810982.1622941.1621283230174.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <209810982.1622941.1621283230174@mail.yahoo.com> What benefits salmon doesnt necessary benefitbirds. The huge amounts of money being thrown in the name of salmon recovery has led to in my mind a couple of disasters. Nisqually and Whylie Slough being 2 that come to mind.So to our experts. The funding is all salmon concentrated. Can someone just try and make sure all wildlife is deemed as important when planning for future habitat restoration.? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From constancesidles at gmail.com Mon May 17 14:27:12 2021 From: constancesidles at gmail.com (Constance Sidles) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Bob Sundstrom, Gone Birding In-Reply-To: <87d96b82-b835-230c-1081-c6f3aaa3c579@gmail.com> References: <87d96b82-b835-230c-1081-c6f3aaa3c579@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am so very sorry to hear about Bob. It is a heavy blow and a great loss to all the birding community. Through his classes, Bob brought countless people to love birds and nature as much as he did. Those of us who were privileged to be in his classes hope to carry on his work to foster a love of nature wherever we go. It is only through such love that we will be able to preserve the natural world, a world that we are a part of, though sometimes we forget that. I still smile when I remember Bob playing bird songs in class. I think I must have been one of his worst students, though he never said so! There was one time when he was playing songs from two different species that sounded quite similar. Bob noted the differences in the songs and asked, "Can you hear that?" Everyone in the class nodded. I did too, though I couldn't tell the songs apart at all. Bob must have seen my baffled look because he said, "Let me play those songs for you again." I think he would have been happy to play them 50 times in a row for me, except the other students would have objected, no doubt. Even after the class was over, I kept trying to get better at birding by ear because Bob made me feel like I could. I can tell the songs apart now, Bob. Thank you. - Connie > On May 17, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Ellen Blackstone wrote: > > Hello, Tweeters, > > Sad news here about Bob Sundstrom from his wife, Sally Alhadeff. > > Take care, Everyone, > Ellen Blackstone > Seattle > ================= > > > Bob Sundstrom passed away on May 16, 2021, after a recurrence of leukemia. He died comfortably and in good spirits at his home in the country along Scatter Creek in south Thurston County, in the company of his wife, Sally Alhadeff and their three cats. He was 69. > > Birds were a great love for Bob, as well as his career. He earned a living as a full-time professional birder: leading tours to many parts of the world for Victor Emanuel Nature Tours, conducting van trips from Mercer Island, teaching, and writing for radio. For thirty years Bob taught Birding by Ear for Seattle Audubon Society, helping many to know and appreciate the voices of birds. > > His writer?s voice will continue to be heard through nearly 900 BirdNote radio stories he authored as Lead Writer. He continued writing into his final days, including a final story on May 14. He thanks founder Chris Peterson and Executive Director Sallie Bodie for the opportunity to be part of the BirdNote team. He was overwhelmed by the gratitude expressed for his career work in his last months. > (https://www.birdnote.org/messages-bob-sundstrom ) > > Bob liked to say that birds were his day job, but not his obsession. When not birding or writing, Bob loved books, music, bicycling, and single malt Scotch. He and Sally took great pleasure in gardening and tending the natural habitats on their rural acres. He became a great admirer of classic literature and poetry. He earned his Ph.D. in cultural anthropology at the University of Washington. > > Bob is survived by his wife, Sally Alhadeff, brother Bill Sundstrom, and nephews Ethan and Erin Sundstrom. His loving parents, Mary and Bill, are deceased. He thanks many friends and colleagues, the Olympia Unitarian Universalist congregation, and Sally?s family for their loving support. > > Sally and Bob had 28 wonderful years together. They loved watching the swallows glide and the ravens soar above their camas-covered meadow along Scatter Creek. > > If you?d like to leave a remembrance in Bob?s name, please consider a donation to BirdNote (birdnote.org). > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hayncarl at gmail.com Mon May 17 14:33:32 2021 From: hayncarl at gmail.com (Carl Haynie) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Red-necked Phalarope at Veazie Marsh, King Co In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bird continues in pond here: (47.2363140, -121.9638573) as of 2:30 PM PDT. Thanks, John! Carl Haynie On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 1:16 PM John Puschock wrote: > There is currently (1:15 PM PDT) a Red-necked Phalarope at the main pond > at Veazie Marsh, north of Enumclaw. It's an eBird hotspot, so you can look > that up for exact location. There's also a Wilson's Phalarope in the > southwest corner of the wetland. Scope recommended but visible with just > binoculars. > > John Puschock > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thefedderns at gmail.com Mon May 17 16:44:52 2021 From: thefedderns at gmail.com (Hans-Joachim Feddern) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Bob Sundstrom, Gone Birding In-Reply-To: References: <87d96b82-b835-230c-1081-c6f3aaa3c579@gmail.com> Message-ID: My condolences to his family! The last time I saw Bob was at High Island, Texas in 2019 I believe. He was leading a group and I first saw him at the pond at Boy Scout Woods and later at Rollover Pass! His passing is a great loss to the birding community! RIP Bob! Hans On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 2:28 PM Constance Sidles wrote: > I am so very sorry to hear about Bob. It is a heavy blow and a great loss > to all the birding community. Through his classes, Bob brought countless > people to love birds and nature as much as he did. Those of us who were > privileged to be in his classes hope to carry on his work to foster a love > of nature wherever we go. It is only through such love that we will be able > to preserve the natural world, a world that we are a part of, though > sometimes we forget that. > > I still smile when I remember Bob playing bird songs in class. I think I > must have been one of his worst students, though he never said so! There > was one time when he was playing songs from two different species that > sounded quite similar. Bob noted the differences in the songs and asked, > "Can you hear that?" Everyone in the class nodded. I did too, though I > couldn't tell the songs apart at all. Bob must have seen my baffled look > because he said, "Let me play those songs for you again." I think he would > have been happy to play them 50 times in a row for me, except the other > students would have objected, no doubt. > > Even after the class was over, I kept trying to get better at birding by > ear because Bob made me feel like I could. > > I can tell the songs apart now, Bob. Thank you. - Connie > > On May 17, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Ellen Blackstone > wrote: > > Hello, Tweeters, > > Sad news here about Bob Sundstrom from his wife, Sally Alhadeff. > > Take care, Everyone, > Ellen Blackstone > Seattle > ================= > > > Bob Sundstrom passed away on May 16, 2021, after a recurrence of leukemia. > He died comfortably and in good spirits at his home in the country along > Scatter Creek in south Thurston County, in the company of his wife, Sally > Alhadeff and their three cats. He was 69. > > Birds were a great love for Bob, as well as his career. He earned a living > as a full-time professional birder: leading tours to many parts of the > world for Victor Emanuel Nature Tours, conducting van trips from Mercer > Island, teaching, and writing for radio. For thirty years Bob taught Birding > by Ear for Seattle Audubon Society, helping many to know and appreciate > the voices of birds. > > His writer?s voice will continue to be heard through nearly 900 BirdNote radio > stories he authored as Lead Writer. He continued writing into his final > days, including a final story on May 14. He thanks founder Chris Peterson > and Executive Director Sallie Bodie for the opportunity to be part of the > BirdNote team. He was overwhelmed by the gratitude expressed for his career > work in his last months. > (https://www.birdnote.org/messages-bob-sundstrom) > > Bob liked to say that birds were his day job, but not his obsession. When > not birding or writing, Bob loved books, music, bicycling, and single malt > Scotch. He and Sally took great pleasure in gardening and tending the > natural habitats on their rural acres. He became a great admirer of > classic literature and poetry. He earned his Ph.D. in cultural anthropology > at the University of Washington. > > Bob is survived by his wife, Sally Alhadeff, brother Bill Sundstrom, and > nephews Ethan and Erin Sundstrom. His loving parents, Mary and Bill, are > deceased. He thanks many friends and colleagues, the Olympia Unitarian > Universalist congregation, and Sally?s family for their loving support. > > Sally and Bob had 28 wonderful years together. They loved watching the > swallows glide and the ravens soar above their camas-covered meadow along > Scatter Creek. > > If you?d like to leave a remembrance in Bob?s name, please consider a > donation to BirdNote (birdnote.org). > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- *Hans Feddern* Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA thefedderns@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From falcophile at comcast.net Mon May 17 16:46:54 2021 From: falcophile at comcast.net (ED DEAL) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Bob Sundstrom, Gone Birding Message-ID: <92174583.494135.1621295214326@connect.xfinity.com> Tweets, I first met Bob circa 1974-1976 when we were both grad students in Anthropology at the UW. Our paths diverged, then 20 years later I was called to birding. I took a 3 day shorebird trip offered by Bob and Dennis Paulson. I was impressed by his ID knowledge, his patient teaching and his skill at handling the logistics of leading (and feeding) a field trip. Well done, Bob, and thank you! Ed Deal Seattle, WA falcophile AT comcast DOT net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.bannick at gmail.com Mon May 17 17:46:16 2021 From: paul.bannick at gmail.com (Paul Bannick) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:15 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Bob Sundstrom, Gone Birding In-Reply-To: <87d96b82-b835-230c-1081-c6f3aaa3c579@gmail.com> References: <87d96b82-b835-230c-1081-c6f3aaa3c579@gmail.com> Message-ID: What a huge loss! Bob was a kind, assuming but brilliant man. Bob also showed me my first wild Pygmy-Owl. Several years later he impressed me when I showed him a photo of a Washington Pygmy-Owl and he was able to tell me from what region of Washington it hailed based upon the color. There is so much more to remember and share but I am sure others will chime in. I for one am glad I met him. On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:04 AM Ellen Blackstone wrote: > Hello, Tweeters, > > Sad news here about Bob Sundstrom from his wife, Sally Alhadeff. > > Take care, Everyone, > Ellen Blackstone > Seattle > ================= > > > Bob Sundstrom passed away on May 16, 2021, after a recurrence of leukemia. > He died comfortably and in good spirits at his home in the country along > Scatter Creek in south Thurston County, in the company of his wife, Sally > Alhadeff and their three cats. He was 69. > > > Birds were a great love for Bob, as well as his career. He earned a living > as a full-time professional birder: leading tours to many parts of the > world for Victor Emanuel Nature Tours, conducting van trips from Mercer > Island, teaching, and writing for radio. For thirty years Bob taught Birding > by Ear for Seattle Audubon Society, helping many to know and appreciate > the voices of birds. > > > His writer?s voice will continue to be heard through nearly 900 BirdNote radio > stories he authored as Lead Writer. He continued writing into his final > days, including a final story on May 14. He thanks founder Chris Peterson > and Executive Director Sallie Bodie for the opportunity to be part of the > BirdNote team. He was overwhelmed by the gratitude expressed for his career > work in his last months. > (https://www.birdnote.org/messages-bob-sundstrom) > > > Bob liked to say that birds were his day job, but not his obsession. When > not birding or writing, Bob loved books, music, bicycling, and single malt > Scotch. He and Sally took great pleasure in gardening and tending the > natural habitats on their rural acres. He became a great admirer of > classic literature and poetry. He earned his Ph.D. in cultural anthropology > at the University of Washington. > > > Bob is survived by his wife, Sally Alhadeff, brother Bill Sundstrom, and > nephews Ethan and Erin Sundstrom. His loving parents, Mary and Bill, are > deceased. He thanks many friends and colleagues, the Olympia Unitarian > Universalist congregation, and Sally?s family for their loving support. > > > Sally and Bob had 28 wonderful years together. They loved watching the > swallows glide and the ravens soar above their camas-covered meadow along > Scatter Creek. > > > If you?d like to leave a remembrance in Bob?s name, please consider a > donation to BirdNote (birdnote.org). > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- Now Available: Owl: A Year in the Lives of North American Owls at: http://paulbannick.com/shop/owl-a-year-in-the-lives-of-north-american-owls/ Paul Bannick Photography www.paulbannick.com 206-940-7835 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bbrug15 at gmail.com Mon May 17 19:00:03 2021 From: bbrug15 at gmail.com (Barry Brugman) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Cooper's Hawk nests at Magnuson Park Message-ID: Would anyone care to share the locations of this year's Cooper's Hawk nests at Magnuson Park? I am aware of the location of the Tennis Court nest last year and the Promontory Point nest two years ago. Are those same nests in use this year? I won't be harassing the birds. I'll visit once and leave when I have seen a Cooper's Hawk. If the nests have moved, explicit directions would be appreciated. Barry Brugman Kirkland, WA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From falcophile at comcast.net Mon May 17 19:19:06 2021 From: falcophile at comcast.net (ED DEAL) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Cooper's Hawk nests at Magnuson Park Message-ID: <47934358.494912.1621304346996@connect.xfinity.com> Barry, If your aim is to observe nesting Cooper's Hawks, may I recommend Miller Park on Capitol Hill (19th & Thomas). Best seen from inside the tennis court. The birds are indifferent to human activity. You can get great close-up views and photos. Some of the Magnuson nests are low and close to trails and would be less tolerant of humans. Best, Ed Deal falcophile@ comcast Dot net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gorgebirds at juno.com Mon May 17 20:39:18 2021 From: gorgebirds at juno.com (Wilson Cady) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Skamania County Black-throated Sparrow Message-ID: <20210517.203918.25426.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> On May 16th, Dan Nelson found and photographed a Black-throated Sparrow on the Cape Horn Trail in Skamania County. Dan writes a natural history blog where he posted the sighting and was unaware of the rarity of this bird in western Washington until I let him know that it was only the second county record. 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Please forgive the typo On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:46 PM Paul Bannick wrote: > What a huge loss! Bob was a kind, assuming but brilliant man. Bob also > showed me my first wild Pygmy-Owl. Several years later he impressed me > when I showed him a photo of a Washington Pygmy-Owl and he was able to tell > me from what region of Washington it hailed based upon the color. > > There is so much more to remember and share but I am sure others will > chime in. I for one am glad I met him. > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:04 AM Ellen Blackstone < > ellenblackstone@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello, Tweeters, >> >> Sad news here about Bob Sundstrom from his wife, Sally Alhadeff. >> >> Take care, Everyone, >> Ellen Blackstone >> Seattle >> ================= >> >> >> Bob Sundstrom passed away on May 16, 2021, after a recurrence of >> leukemia. He died comfortably and in good spirits at his home in the >> country along Scatter Creek in south Thurston County, in the company of his >> wife, Sally Alhadeff and their three cats. He was 69. >> >> >> Birds were a great love for Bob, as well as his career. He earned a >> living as a full-time professional birder: leading tours to many parts of >> the world for Victor Emanuel Nature Tours, conducting van trips from Mercer >> Island, teaching, and writing for radio. For thirty years Bob taught Birding >> by Ear for Seattle Audubon Society, helping many to know and appreciate >> the voices of birds. >> >> >> His writer?s voice will continue to be heard through nearly 900 BirdNote radio >> stories he authored as Lead Writer. He continued writing into his final >> days, including a final story on May 14. He thanks founder Chris Peterson >> and Executive Director Sallie Bodie for the opportunity to be part of the >> BirdNote team. He was overwhelmed by the gratitude expressed for his career >> work in his last months. >> (https://www.birdnote.org/messages-bob-sundstrom) >> >> >> Bob liked to say that birds were his day job, but not his obsession. When >> not birding or writing, Bob loved books, music, bicycling, and single malt >> Scotch. He and Sally took great pleasure in gardening and tending the >> natural habitats on their rural acres. He became a great admirer of >> classic literature and poetry. He earned his Ph.D. in cultural anthropology >> at the University of Washington. >> >> >> Bob is survived by his wife, Sally Alhadeff, brother Bill Sundstrom, and >> nephews Ethan and Erin Sundstrom. His loving parents, Mary and Bill, are >> deceased. He thanks many friends and colleagues, the Olympia Unitarian >> Universalist congregation, and Sally?s family for their loving support. >> >> >> Sally and Bob had 28 wonderful years together. They loved watching the >> swallows glide and the ravens soar above their camas-covered meadow along >> Scatter Creek. >> >> >> If you?d like to leave a remembrance in Bob?s name, please consider a >> donation to BirdNote (birdnote.org). >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > > > -- > Now Available: > Owl: A Year in the Lives of North American Owls at: > http://paulbannick.com/shop/owl-a-year-in-the-lives-of-north-american-owls/ > > > Paul Bannick Photography > www.paulbannick.com > 206-940-7835 > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jbryant_68 at yahoo.com Tue May 18 15:35:51 2021 From: jbryant_68 at yahoo.com (Jeffrey Bryant) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] M Street marsh, Auburn References: <08F513E2-1BFB-40EC-9174-14E72B67063A.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <08F513E2-1BFB-40EC-9174-14E72B67063A@yahoo.com> In addition to the continuing Pectoral Sandpiper, there is currently (3:30) a Semipalmated Sandpiper on the far side of the southernmost pond. It seems to follow the resident pair of Spotties. Also three late Gr Yellowlegs, three LB Dowitchers, adorable pair of downy Killdeer chicks, and FOUR Lazuli Buntings Jeff Bryant (Formerly) Seattle Jbryant_68 AT Yahoo Sent from my iPhone From 1northraven at gmail.com Tue May 18 17:15:06 2021 From: 1northraven at gmail.com (J Christian Kessler) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] M Street marsh, Auburn In-Reply-To: <08F513E2-1BFB-40EC-9174-14E72B67063A@yahoo.com> References: <08F513E2-1BFB-40EC-9174-14E72B67063A.ref@yahoo.com> <08F513E2-1BFB-40EC-9174-14E72B67063A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: can someone help me locate the M Street Marsh in Auburn? it is not listed in the Birders' Guide to Washington, and is (of course) unknown to Google Maps. Chris Kessler Seattle On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:36 PM Jeffrey Bryant wrote: > In addition to the continuing Pectoral Sandpiper, there is currently > (3:30) a Semipalmated Sandpiper on the far side of the southernmost pond. > It seems to follow the resident pair of Spotties. Also three late Gr > Yellowlegs, three LB Dowitchers, adorable pair of downy Killdeer chicks, > and FOUR Lazuli Buntings > > Jeff Bryant > (Formerly) Seattle > Jbryant_68 AT Yahoo > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- "moderation in everything, including moderation" Rustin Thompson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hayncarl at gmail.com Tue May 18 17:21:52 2021 From: hayncarl at gmail.com (Carl Haynie) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] M Street marsh, Auburn In-Reply-To: References: <08F513E2-1BFB-40EC-9174-14E72B67063A.ref@yahoo.com> <08F513E2-1BFB-40EC-9174-14E72B67063A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: It?s just NNE of the Hwy 167 and 15th St NW interchange in Auburn or just West of the Emerald Downs building. It is best reached via M st which parallels Hwy 167 on its east side. Coordinates to aim for: (47.3280780, -122.2441861) Carl Haynie Sammamish, WA On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 5:16 PM J Christian Kessler <1northraven@gmail.com> wrote: > can someone help me locate the M Street Marsh in Auburn? it is not listed > in the Birders' Guide to Washington, and is (of course) unknown to Google > Maps. > > Chris Kessler > Seattle > > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:36 PM Jeffrey Bryant > wrote: > >> In addition to the continuing Pectoral Sandpiper, there is currently >> (3:30) a Semipalmated Sandpiper on the far side of the southernmost pond. >> It seems to follow the resident pair of Spotties. Also three late Gr >> Yellowlegs, three LB Dowitchers, adorable pair of downy Killdeer chicks, >> and FOUR Lazuli Buntings >> >> Jeff Bryant >> (Formerly) Seattle >> Jbryant_68 AT Yahoo >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > >> > > -- > "moderation in everything, including moderation" > Rustin Thompson > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From scottleavens at gmail.com Tue May 18 19:13:30 2021 From: scottleavens at gmail.com (Scott Leavens) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] California Scrub Jay - Issaquah In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congrats Eric! There are a handful of them that seem to have settled in the neighborhood behind the Ballard Goodwill, "Phinney Ditch" as some like to call it. I've seen them regularly there over the past year. I've also seen them a number of times while visiting family in Enumclaw. - Scott Leavens On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 6:57 PM Eric Snyder wrote: > I was testing out some new photo gear today and threw down a bunch of > peanuts to get my usual cadre of Steller's Jays into the front yard; and a > Scrub Jay showed up out of nowhere. This is the first time I've seen one > of these here in the 12 years we've been in this house. I know they've > been working their way North for several years, but I didn't know they'd > reached our area...Will post ebird link w/ photos once I figure out this > fakakta memory card. > > This was down in the Olde Town area, below Sunset Way, in Issaquah. > > -Eric S. > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guideon72 at hotmail.com Tue May 18 20:10:26 2021 From: guideon72 at hotmail.com (Eric Snyder) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] California Scrub Jay - Issaquah Message-ID: Here's the promised Ebird checklist for the sighting, including confirmation pics: https://ebird.org/checklist/S88503472 Enjoy! -Eric S. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From charlyford at aol.com Wed May 19 05:55:49 2021 From: charlyford at aol.com (Charles Ford) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] M Street marsh, Auburn In-Reply-To: References: <08F513E2-1BFB-40EC-9174-14E72B67063A.ref@yahoo.com> <08F513E2-1BFB-40EC-9174-14E72B67063A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2111686031.243643.1621428949840@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Carl,? ? ? I am also new to the area and often find eBird location markers and Tweeters descriptions don't always lead me to the place where the birds are, and once there, it's often not obvious where it is permitted or not permitted to walk, to approach the birds. M Street Marsh is a large north-south pond off a two-lane highway. For viewing, there is a dirt/grass road to the south of it, which turns and runs up the east side of the pond. So, you are best to bring a scope, since the shorebirds are often too far from the dirt road to be identified with binoculars. To the south of the large pond is a smaller pond, largely blocked from view by reeds. It is best seen from the highway to the east, though you can get glimpses of it from the east-west section of the dirt road.? ? ?Hope that's helpful,? ? ?Charlie Ford? -----Original Message----- From: J Christian Kessler <1northraven@gmail.com> To: Jeffrey Bryant Cc: tweeters Sent: Tue, May 18, 2021 5:15 pm Subject: Re: [Tweeters] M Street marsh, Auburn can someone help me locate the M Street Marsh in Auburn?? it is not listed in the Birders' Guide to Washington, and is (of course) unknown to Google Maps. Chris Kessler Seattle On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:36 PM Jeffrey Bryant wrote: In addition to the continuing Pectoral Sandpiper, there is currently (3:30) a Semipalmated Sandpiper on the far side of the southernmost pond. It seems to follow the resident pair of Spotties. Also three late Gr Yellowlegs, three LB Dowitchers, adorable pair of downy Killdeer chicks, and FOUR Lazuli Buntings Jeff Bryant (Formerly) Seattle Jbryant_68 AT Yahoo Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -- "moderation in everything, including moderation" Rustin Thompson _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leschwitters at me.com Wed May 19 09:19:53 2021 From: leschwitters at me.com (Larry Schwitters) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Vaux's Happening in Monroe In-Reply-To: <60a49b05.1c69fb81.7a0f2.57e0@mx.google.com> References: <60a49b05.1c69fb81.7a0f2.57e0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: You might be able to catch 3000ish swifts exiting their roost this morning on our in the chimney camera at https://vaux-swift-inside1.click2stream.com/. Larry Schwitters Issaquah From mercator1948 at comcast.net Wed May 19 09:49:51 2021 From: mercator1948 at comcast.net (Scott Morrison) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Common cranes in Ireland Message-ID: <1728538666.499185.1621442992167@connect.xfinity.com> https://www.irishpost.com/news/giant-cranes-returning-to-ireland-for-first-time-in-300-years -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shepthorp at gmail.com Wed May 19 11:26:41 2021 From: shepthorp at gmail.com (Shep Thorp) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] American Avocet at Nisqually 11:20am 5/19 Message-ID: <15D890E9-9A9A-4F93-9904-3F0C3A563820@gmail.com> Hi Tweets, American Avocet showing on Nisqually Estuary Boardwalk Trail north of McAllister Creek Viewing Platform. Near gulls and Whimbrel. Happy Birding, Shep Shep Thorp, VMD Family Guy, Emergency Veterinarian, Birder Browns Point, Tacoma 253-370-3742 From benedict.t at comcast.net Wed May 19 12:09:50 2021 From: benedict.t at comcast.net (THOMAS BENEDICT) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Townsend's Solitaire in Burien Message-ID: <509937684.30033.1621451391005@connect.xfinity.com> A somewhat uncommon bird for the Puget Sound Lowlands showed up in our yard today. The Townsend's Solitaire sat for a very long period (5-6 minutes) on a railing, then jumped up to nab a few pyracantha berries, then back to the railing. 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Happy birding, Shep Shep Thorp, VMD Family Guy, Emergency Veterinarian, Birder Browns Point, Tacoma 253-370-3742 From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Wed May 19 13:47:22 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] CNN: Philadelphia has dimmed its skyline after a 'mass collision' killed thousands of migrating birds Message-ID: <9BCBD536-9DAF-4A68-9D17-DA8A8A091A8B@gmail.com> Philadelphia has dimmed its skyline after a 'mass collision' killed thousands of migrating birds Nearly twenty buildings in Philadelphia are dimming their lights this spring after thousands of birds perished in the city's largest mass collision in recent history. Read in CNN: https://apple.news/ANcoKdTocTK6PzlW4TPF5dA Shared from Apple News Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tml at uw.edu Wed May 19 14:01:07 2021 From: tml at uw.edu (Thomas M Leschine) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Western Tanagers galore Message-ID: <11AE083D-5C1E-4DC9-8123-5DA9013DB8EF@uw.edu> For the past two days it has seemed that Western Tanagers are ever present around where I live on West Queen Anne, in Seattle. I live in a 4th floor condominium unit that faces west. I have a small balcony between a very large copper beech and a grove of maturing maples, the two separated by about 50 yards with a parking lot in between. From this vantage point I am able to see well the mid- and top levels of these tall shade trees. I first noticed tanager calls and song on Sunday, May 16, though was absent for several days before that. The birds, mostly female, are actively flying back and forth between the copper beech and the maples, and mostly disappearing quickly into or through the foliage, making counting difficult. I have on several occasions observed 5 or more different birds in just a few minutes though, at around mid-day on each day. The birds seem to become active around 8 am or so. I?m sure there have been at least a dozen birds each day, possibly several dozen over the past two days. These are probably mostly migrants working their way north, though a few may breed in the neighborhood. I have lived here for more than 10 years and typically sight one or two tanagers around this time of year, but never anything like this. Tom Leschine Seattle From rwlawson at q.com Wed May 19 14:53:04 2021 From: rwlawson at q.com (Rachel Lawson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Ballard Scrub Jay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 14, I was surprised to see a scrub-jay on someone's lawn on Viewmont Way W in Magnolia. I have not seen scrub-jays in Magnolia before. Rachel Lawson Seattle rwlawson@q.com ________________________________ From: Tweeters on behalf of Mike Wagenbach Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 12:21 PM To: Tweeters Tweeters Subject: [Tweeters] Ballard Scrub Jay We've been seeing them (one?) in Ballard Sunset Hill semi-regularly for a couple of years, near 34th Ave and NW 60th St. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guideon72 at hotmail.com Wed May 19 17:29:37 2021 From: guideon72 at hotmail.com (Eric Snyder) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] GHOs at Nisqually? Message-ID: Anyone know whether there was ever a hatch with the owls down there this season? Thanks, -Eric S. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rflores_2 at msn.com Wed May 19 18:06:31 2021 From: rflores_2 at msn.com (Bob) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Gray Partridge Franklin Co, WA Message-ID: I notice they are listed as a number 4 species so thought I should share location. Two crossed Hwy 261 and a quarter mile north of the Hwy 261 x Hwy 12 intersection. The birds traveling east across the road into a large field. Bob Flores Ridgefield, WA From rflores_2 at msn.com Wed May 19 18:08:10 2021 From: rflores_2 at msn.com (Bob) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Gray Partridge Franklin Co, WA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They were seen at 3:00pm Bob Flores Ridgefield, WA > On May 19, 2021, at 18:07, Bob wrote: > > ?I notice they are listed as a number 4 species so thought I should share location. Two crossed Hwy 261 and a quarter mile north of the Hwy 261 x Hwy 12 intersection. The birds traveling east across the road into a large field. > > Bob Flores > Ridgefield, WA > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From garybletsch at yahoo.com Wed May 19 18:57:30 2021 From: garybletsch at yahoo.com (Gary Bletsch) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Purple Finch mimicking Steller's Jay? References: <1119683784.1433064.1621475850412.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1119683784.1433064.1621475850412@mail.yahoo.com> Dear Tweeters, Today, the nineteenth of May, a pair of Purple Finches performed some nuptial rituals in a pear tree. This was in my yard in Skagit County. The male was singing some beautiful songs, outdoing the usual Purple Finch repertoire by quite a margin.? Meanwhile, I kept hearing what I thought was a Steller's Jay. The jays have not been noticeable in my neighborhood of late, probably because they get quiet during breeding season. However, every time I was ready to make a mental note to write "STJA" in my field notebook later, I realized that I could hear the "rapid-fire calling" [as the Sibley app calls it] only at the same time that the Purple Finch was singing.? Over the course of half an hour, I must have heard the jay-like vocalization ten or more times, but each time, it was right in the middle of a complicated song given by a Purple Finch. I always think of this rapid-fire call as the "Three Stooges" vocalization. To me, it sounds somewhat like Shemp Howard saying "nyuk nyuk nyuk."? In any case, I think that I may have witnessed a Purple Finch engaging in vocal mimicry. Is that something they do? Yours truly, Gary Bletsch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stevechampton at gmail.com Thu May 20 09:52:24 2021 From: stevechampton at gmail.com (Steve Hampton) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] good migration day in poor weather, Port Townsend Message-ID: In support of Jim Danzenbaker's theory #1 on this spring's poor migration, this morning was cold, cloudy, and blustery in Port Townsend. I almost bagged birding, but was quickly glad I didn't. A short walk along the riparian edge at Kah Tai Lagoon quickly produced 4 Western Wood-Pewees 6 Warbling Vireos 10 Yellow Warblers 11 Wilson's Warblers 9 Western Tanagers among others. Most of these birds were in the first 200 yard stretch south of Kearney, often many to a tree. Full list at https://ebird.org/checklist/S88593849 good birding, -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leschwitters at me.com Thu May 20 10:02:13 2021 From: leschwitters at me.com (Larry Schwitters) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Vaux's Happening in Monroe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98F5229A-1FF6-4A6E-AC46-03C4E70E67D2@me.com> Six thousand Vaux?s Swifts are still in their Monroe Wagner roost. Larry Schwitters Issaquah From joemccracken3 at gmail.com Thu May 20 11:28:33 2021 From: joemccracken3 at gmail.com (Joey McCracken) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting Message-ID: Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe we can start at Brierwood Park just south of Alderwood. Happy birding! -Joey McCracken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coddler at gmail.com Thu May 20 11:43:07 2021 From: coddler at gmail.com (Bruce Barrett) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fair enough, but I would ask some different questions - that perhaps the scientists using the data might want to comment on. Do we have too many hotspots in some areas? Should there be a minimum distance between hotspots? Should (could?) the eBird app generate warning signals when we wander out of one hotspot area into another, without starting a new checklist? Maybe, as proposed, some hotspots could be boosted, but are there also some that need to be consolidated? One implication of the current myriad of hotspots is that, instead of more accurate location-specific data, in many cases we have just the opposite. How many times do we start an ebird checklist at one location, choosing the best local hotspot, but then walk/travel, bird, and continue the checklist well beyond that hotspot area into others, without starting a new checklist, thus polluting the data for the original location? In summary, do we need better science in the selection of hotspots? Bruce Barrett On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:29 AM Joey McCracken wrote: > Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find > an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and > then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that > location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill > in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not > well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe > we can start at Brierwood Park just > south of Alderwood. Happy birding! > -Joey McCracken > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mollycvetovac at gmail.com Thu May 20 12:11:54 2021 From: mollycvetovac at gmail.com (mollycvetovac@gmail.com) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9128B5C6-7F7A-4FA9-B76C-99F7C710F47A@gmail.com> I like this idea! My limited schedule may not allow for me to participate all the time but I would be willing to join in when I can. Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Joey McCracken wrote: > > ? > Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe we can start at Brierwood Park just south of Alderwood. Happy birding! > -Joey McCracken > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taylorrl at outlook.com Thu May 20 12:25:08 2021 From: taylorrl at outlook.com (Rick Taylor) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: <9128B5C6-7F7A-4FA9-B76C-99F7C710F47A@gmail.com> References: <9128B5C6-7F7A-4FA9-B76C-99F7C710F47A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Flooding a hot spot for a week will not add an appreciable number of species to the hotspot list. A single good birder can find the bulk of the expected species in an hour or two. To build a picture of the avian species diversity at a hot spot requires weekly trips over a one or more-year time period. This will catch the arrival and departure of migrants, breeders, and over wintering birds in addition to the resident species. Rather than a horde of eBirders descending upon a hotspot for a week, adopt a hot spot and visit it regularly through the year. Rick Rick Taylor Everett, WA From: Tweeters On Behalf Of mollycvetovac@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 12:12 PM To: Joey McCracken Cc: tweeters@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting I like this idea! My limited schedule may not allow for me to participate all the time but I would be willing to join in when I can. Sent from my iPhone On May 20, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Joey McCracken > wrote: ? Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe we can start at Brierwood Park just south of Alderwood. Happy birding! -Joey McCracken _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters ________________________________ [https://secureimages.mcafee.com/common/affiliateImages/mfe/logo.png] Scanned by McAfee and confirmed virus-free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leschwitters at me.com Thu May 20 12:40:09 2021 From: leschwitters at me.com (Larry Schwitters) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Vaux's Happening at noon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B96E35A-9033-4F88-9FDB-E27F88FF90E3@me.com> The Wagner Swifts put on a spectacular exit 11:57 to 12:13. You could have been up close and personal in a live streaming sort of way at https://www.vauxhappening.org/ Most of this time they were coming out at a rate of 10 plus swifts per second. Let?s call 15 minutes of exit the same as 900 seconds x 7 swifts going out every second equals 6300 of the wee birds that spent the night. We had it and 5900 last night and sticking with it. Larry Schwitters Issaquah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From benedict.t at comcast.net Thu May 20 12:54:59 2021 From: benedict.t at comcast.net (THOMAS BENEDICT) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: References: <9128B5C6-7F7A-4FA9-B76C-99F7C710F47A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1160215902.36076.1621540499478@connect.xfinity.com> >What if we were to find an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species >and then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that location >and we will change the location every week. We could really fill in some missing data and >maybe find some rarities in places Like Rick articulated so well is true. Blitzing a potential hotspot does not ?..fill in some missing data..? The data you end up with is low value. It does nothing for the science. We don?t need more birders constantly jumping from location to location. Not to mention the carbon footprint. Sorry to rain on your party. Tom Benedict Seahurst, WA > On 05/20/2021 12:25 PM Rick Taylor wrote: > > > > Flooding a hot spot for a week will not add an appreciable number of species to the hotspot list. A single good birder can find the bulk of the expected species in an hour or two. To build a picture of the avian species diversity at a hot spot requires weekly trips over a one or more-year time period. This will catch the arrival and departure of migrants, breeders, and over wintering birds in addition to the resident species. Rather than a horde of eBirders descending upon a hotspot for a week, adopt a hot spot and visit it regularly through the year. > > > > Rick > > > > Rick Taylor > > Everett, WA > > > > From: Tweeters On Behalf Of mollycvetovac@gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 12:12 PM > To: Joey McCracken > Cc: tweeters@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting > > > > I like this idea! My limited schedule may not allow for me to participate all the time but I would be willing to join in when I can. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > On May 20, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Joey McCracken wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe we can start at Brierwood Park https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Febird.org%2Fhotspot%2FL7009887&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb447ecdf2720445193c108d91bc3e6e2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637571350463002461%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jkiKrsas6nbHp8zL31FM84dTc1I1m6Q7hf7uahu39T0%3D&reserved=0 just south of Alderwood. 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Pileated Woodpecker ? thought we heard one. Later, we had one fly right over our heads near the cars g.. Western Wood-Pewee ? they?re back, and they?re back in numbers. Probably had 8 at a minimum. First of Year (FOY) h.. Northern Rough-winged Swallow ? at least one below the weir i.. Swainson?s Thrush ? some nice actual views again this week j.. Red Crossbill ? some heard overhead twice k.. Bullock?s Oriole ? probably at least 4, with a pair at the Pea Patch gathering nesting material l.. Orange-crowned Warbler ? a few heard singing m.. Yellow Warbler ? at least 10 heard, a few seen n.. Yellow-rumped Warbler ? only about three, all heard-only o.. Townsend?s Warbler ? at least 1 singing along west edge of Dog Meadow p.. Wilson?s Warbler ? at least 4 males q.. Western Tanager ? two females at Rowing Club, a male seen later near the tennis courts as I left the park r.. Lazuli Bunting ? a minimum of two males and a female, East Meadow A late scan of the lake was very productive. First I was able to confirm a BANK SWALLOW (FOY); earlier we?d thought we might have seen one from the Lake Platform. There was also a CLIFF SWALLOW, which makes for a SEVEN SWALLOW DAY! Over the Lake Platform I also found at least eleven BLACK SWIFT (FOY). And looking across the lake I found a non-breeding plumage COMMON LOON. Finally, as I was leaving the park, I spotted a GREEN HERON (FOY) being chased by a ROCK PIGEON near the intersection of SR-520 and West Lake Samm Parkway. Misses today included Red-tailed Hawk, Belted Kingfisher, and Downy Woodpecker. For the day, 74 species. For the year, adding 4, we?re at 137 species. = Michael Hobbs = www.marymoor.org/birding.htm = BirdMarymoor@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 1northraven at gmail.com Thu May 20 13:40:07 2021 From: 1northraven at gmail.com (J Christian Kessler) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: this is to misunderstand the role of hotspots and their use in science. scientists are looking at species over much wider areas than just one or a few hotspots. in this context hotspots are non-random sampling points. any scientific statement about a species population (occurrence; density) for an area would have to take into account the density of hotspots in that area, the frequency of reports on each hotspot, along with other habitat & and such variables. hotspots are themselves highly non-random and hence non-scientific. some hotspots cover definable areas (like the UBNA) that may include multiple discrete habitats, while others are simply geographic coordinates for a place birders have found productive. there is from a scientific perspective no rhyme or reason to the identification of hotspots as individual locations, but as a collective set of data points covering a separately identified (by a scientist researching a specific question) area, they provide a time-series and wide-area picture of great value. and a key element of that value is the occurrence of a species by season. eBird bar charts are organized for occurrence by week of the year. in the end, "flooding" a hotspot only makes inherently non-random data even less non-random, which is to say statistically biased in hard to determine ways. starting a new hotspot in an area with few of them could, on the other hand, be beneficial to the comprehensive data set. Chris Kessler, Seattle On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:29 AM Joey McCracken wrote: > Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find > an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and > then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that > location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill > in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not > well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe > we can start at Brierwood Park just > south of Alderwood. Happy birding! > -Joey McCracken > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- "moderation in everything, including moderation" Rustin Thompson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dougsantoni at gmail.com Thu May 20 14:13:09 2021 From: dougsantoni at gmail.com (Doug Santoni) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9390A7CB-2094-45F0-A5D9-8712F7ECEF33@gmail.com> As a non-scientist, I just wanted to speak out on behalf of the sentiment expressed by the original poster, and say that the intention of broadening our knowledge and trying new birding spots is a worthy endeavor. I think all of us in this forum share a love for birds and our natural world! Doug Santoni Ph 305-962-4226 DougSantoni@gmail.com > On May 20, 2021, at 1:41 PM, J Christian Kessler <1northraven@gmail.com> wrote: > > ? > this is to misunderstand the role of hotspots and their use in science. scientists are looking at species over much wider areas than just one or a few hotspots. in this context hotspots are non-random sampling points. any scientific statement about a species population (occurrence; density) for an area would have to take into account the density of hotspots in that area, the frequency of reports on each hotspot, along with other habitat & and such variables. > > hotspots are themselves highly non-random and hence non-scientific. some hotspots cover definable areas (like the UBNA) that may include multiple discrete habitats, while others are simply geographic coordinates for a place birders have found productive. there is from a scientific perspective no rhyme or reason to the identification of hotspots as individual locations, but as a collective set of data points covering a separately identified (by a scientist researching a specific question) area, they provide a time-series and wide-area picture of great value. > > and a key element of that value is the occurrence of a species by season. eBird bar charts are organized for occurrence by week of the year. in the end, "flooding" a hotspot only makes inherently non-random data even less non-random, which is to say statistically biased in hard to determine ways. starting a new hotspot in an area with few of them could, on the other hand, be beneficial to the comprehensive data set. > > Chris Kessler, > Seattle > >> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:29 AM Joey McCracken wrote: >> Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe we can start at Brierwood Park just south of Alderwood. Happy birding! >> -Joey McCracken >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > > -- > "moderation in everything, including moderation" > Rustin Thompson > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vikingcove at gmail.com Thu May 20 14:13:46 2021 From: vikingcove at gmail.com (Kevin Lucas) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree with Bruce's observations. I've long wished for a way to see on a map and be alerted when I go into another county. That would help at several locations here in (and not quite, *actually* in) Yakima County. It would also help when driving cross-country, noting birds seen along the interstate. It would be great to have a pop-up notification that one's eBird location is in or close to restricted, private, prohibited areas, for when warning signs are missing, vandalized, or ignored -- e.g. many long-birded locations on Yakama Nation land. I would also like a method to directly suggest that a hotspot name is inappropriate or incorrect, including the ability to spell out the reason. I know of several incorrectly and inappropriately named eBird "hotspots" in Yakima County. As one example, there is no "forebay" at Priest Rapids Dam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forebay_(reservoir) It would also be GREAT to be able to click on a link in the eBird app to a hotspot for information on what areas it comprises, and what restrictions, cautions, considerations, and suggestions are pertinent -- like noting that travel on Priest Rapids Dam is prohibited, as is travel in the Wanapum village there, as is travel on the private Martinez Livestock Company property that borders Priest Rapids Lake on the west/Yakima side, while noting that legal access to Priest Rapids Lake can be gained by boat, with launch sites on the Grant County (east) side near the dam (human-powered boats only), at Desert Aire, and at Priest Rapids State Wildlife Area (SWA) southwest of Mattawa. Warnings that there are many car break-ins at parking areas; Lost & found entries. Suggestions how & where to obtain permits, or from whom to request special authorization,.... A wiki style editable resource, available from within the eBird app, as Merlin is, could do wonders. Good Birding, https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/ Kevin Lucas Yakima County, WA *Qui tacet consentire videtur* On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:44 AM Bruce Barrett wrote: > Fair enough, but I would ask some different questions - that perhaps the > scientists using the data might want to comment on. > > Do we have too many hotspots in some areas? > Should there be a minimum distance between hotspots? > Should (could?) the eBird app generate warning signals when we wander out > of one hotspot area into another, without starting a new checklist? > Maybe, as proposed, some hotspots could be boosted, but are there also > some that need to be consolidated? > One implication of the current myriad of hotspots is that, instead of more > accurate location-specific data, in many cases we have just the opposite. > How many times do we start an ebird checklist at one location, choosing > the best local hotspot, but then walk/travel, bird, and continue the > checklist well beyond that hotspot area into others, without starting a new > checklist, thus polluting the data for the original location? > > In summary, do we need better science in the selection of hotspots? > > Bruce Barrett > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:29 AM Joey McCracken > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find >> an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and >> then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that >> location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill >> in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not >> well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe >> we can start at Brierwood Park just >> south of Alderwood. Happy birding! >> -Joey McCracken >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vikingcove at gmail.com Thu May 20 14:22:08 2021 From: vikingcove at gmail.com (Kevin Lucas) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: <9390A7CB-2094-45F0-A5D9-8712F7ECEF33@gmail.com> References: <9390A7CB-2094-45F0-A5D9-8712F7ECEF33@gmail.com> Message-ID: I second Doug's sentiments. Kevin Lucas Yakima County, WA *Qui tacet consentire videtur* On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 2:15 PM Doug Santoni wrote: > As a non-scientist, I just wanted to speak out on behalf of the sentiment > expressed by the original poster, and say that the intention of broadening > our knowledge and trying new birding spots is a worthy endeavor. I think > all of us in this forum share a love for birds and our natural world! > > Doug Santoni > Ph 305-962-4226 > DougSantoni@gmail.com > > On May 20, 2021, at 1:41 PM, J Christian Kessler <1northraven@gmail.com> > wrote: > > ? > this is to misunderstand the role of hotspots and their use in science. > scientists are looking at species over much wider areas than just one or a > few hotspots. in this context hotspots are non-random sampling points. > any scientific statement about a species population (occurrence; density) > for an area would have to take into account the density of hotspots in that > area, the frequency of reports on each hotspot, along with other habitat & > and such variables. > > hotspots are themselves highly non-random and hence non-scientific. some > hotspots cover definable areas (like the UBNA) that may include multiple > discrete habitats, while others are simply geographic coordinates for a > place birders have found productive. there is from a scientific > perspective no rhyme or reason to the identification of hotspots as > individual locations, but as a collective set of data points covering a > separately identified (by a scientist researching a specific question) > area, they provide a time-series and wide-area picture of great value. > > and a key element of that value is the occurrence of a species by season. > eBird bar charts are organized for occurrence by week of the year. in the > end, "flooding" a hotspot only makes inherently non-random data even less > non-random, which is to say statistically biased in hard to determine > ways. starting a new hotspot in an area with few of them could, on the > other hand, be beneficial to the comprehensive data set. > > Chris Kessler, > Seattle > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:29 AM Joey McCracken > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find >> an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and >> then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that >> location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill >> in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not >> well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe >> we can start at Brierwood Park just >> south of Alderwood. 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URL: From benedict.t at comcast.net Thu May 20 16:33:39 2021 From: benedict.t at comcast.net (THOMAS BENEDICT) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: <9390A7CB-2094-45F0-A5D9-8712F7ECEF33@gmail.com> References: <9390A7CB-2094-45F0-A5D9-8712F7ECEF33@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1065413450.37665.1621553620312@connect.xfinity.com> My concern, and I'm trying to be respectful here, is that having lots of people chasing birds in "hotspots" to "fill in the data" may not be a good way to "broaden our knowledge". It may broaden a given individual's knowledge, but it doesn't do much for the rest of us. Indeed, the checklists grow and the eBird database grows, but at what cost? I don't think we need to be scientists (I'm not) to understand that. I appreciate the '"excitement of the hunt" and the social aspects of birding implied by the original poster. Perhaps it's that this "boosting" strikes me as appealing more to the competitive sporting aspect of some kinds of birdwatching but promoting it as "sharing the love of our natural world". Yes, I'm a stick-in-the-mud, spoilsport curmudgeon. Maybe I'm stuck in the past, content to just look out my window and let the birds come to me. I guess I should be grateful that we have resources which make field identification possible (thank you Roger Tory Peterson) without requiring "bird in hand" otherwise we'd have armed gangs of birders at these "hotspots"! Tom Benedict Seahurst, WA > On 05/20/2021 2:13 PM Doug Santoni wrote: > > > As a non-scientist, I just wanted to speak out on behalf of the sentiment expressed by the original poster, and say that the intention of broadening our knowledge and trying new birding spots is a worthy endeavor. I think all of us in this forum share a love for birds and our natural world! > > Doug Santoni > Ph 305-962-4226 > DougSantoni@gmail.com > > > > > On May 20, 2021, at 1:41 PM, J Christian Kessler <1northraven@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > this is to misunderstand the role of hotspots and their use in science. scientists are looking at species over much wider areas than just one or a few hotspots. in this context hotspots are non-random sampling points. any scientific statement about a species population (occurrence; density) for an area would have to take into account the density of hotspots in that area, the frequency of reports on each hotspot, along with other habitat & and such variables. > > > > hotspots are themselves highly non-random and hence non-scientific. some hotspots cover definable areas (like the UBNA) that may include multiple discrete habitats, while others are simply geographic coordinates for a place birders have found productive. there is from a scientific perspective no rhyme or reason to the identification of hotspots as individual locations, but as a collective set of data points covering a separately identified (by a scientist researching a specific question) area, they provide a time-series and wide-area picture of great value. > > > > and a key element of that value is the occurrence of a species by season. eBird bar charts are organized for occurrence by week of the year. in the end, "flooding" a hotspot only makes inherently non-random data even less non-random, which is to say statistically biased in hard to determine ways. starting a new hotspot in an area with few of them could, on the other hand, be beneficial to the comprehensive data set. > > > > Chris Kessler, > > Seattle > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:29 AM Joey McCracken < joemccracken3@gmail.com mailto:joemccracken3@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe we can start at Brierwood Park https://ebird.org/hotspot/L7009887 just south of Alderwood. 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URL: From 1northraven at gmail.com Thu May 20 20:53:23 2021 From: 1northraven at gmail.com (J Christian Kessler) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird Hotspot Boosting In-Reply-To: <9390A7CB-2094-45F0-A5D9-8712F7ECEF33@gmail.com> References: <9390A7CB-2094-45F0-A5D9-8712F7ECEF33@gmail.com> Message-ID: there was a suggestion about putting more effort into observing at established hotspot, and a different proposal, advocated by Doug Santoni below, about trying new spots. if the intention is to collect new information for science, Doug's proposal is a good one, especially if many of the new observation points (maybe new hotspots, maybe not, time will tell) are in areas with relatively fewer eBird postings, like substantial areas east of the Cascades, and particularly east of the Columbia. We tend to bird where we know the birds are, as opposed to going out to a different place to see what's there (or not). Chris Kessler Seattle On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 2:13 PM Doug Santoni wrote: > As a non-scientist, I just wanted to speak out on behalf of the sentiment > expressed by the original poster, and say that the intention of broadening > our knowledge and trying new birding spots is a worthy endeavor. I think > all of us in this forum share a love for birds and our natural world! > > Doug Santoni > Ph 305-962-4226 > DougSantoni@gmail.com > > On May 20, 2021, at 1:41 PM, J Christian Kessler <1northraven@gmail.com> > wrote: > > ? > this is to misunderstand the role of hotspots and their use in science. > scientists are looking at species over much wider areas than just one or a > few hotspots. in this context hotspots are non-random sampling points. > any scientific statement about a species population (occurrence; density) > for an area would have to take into account the density of hotspots in that > area, the frequency of reports on each hotspot, along with other habitat & > and such variables. > > hotspots are themselves highly non-random and hence non-scientific. some > hotspots cover definable areas (like the UBNA) that may include multiple > discrete habitats, while others are simply geographic coordinates for a > place birders have found productive. there is from a scientific > perspective no rhyme or reason to the identification of hotspots as > individual locations, but as a collective set of data points covering a > separately identified (by a scientist researching a specific question) > area, they provide a time-series and wide-area picture of great value. > > and a key element of that value is the occurrence of a species by season. > eBird bar charts are organized for occurrence by week of the year. in the > end, "flooding" a hotspot only makes inherently non-random data even less > non-random, which is to say statistically biased in hard to determine > ways. starting a new hotspot in an area with few of them could, on the > other hand, be beneficial to the comprehensive data set. > > Chris Kessler, > Seattle > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:29 AM Joey McCracken > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, I've got an idea for those on eBird. What if we were to find >> an eBird Hotspot in the area with not too many checklists or species and >> then for the next week we try and get as many species as possible for that >> location and we will change the location every week. We could really fill >> in some missing data and maybe find some rarities in places that are not >> well birded. It's just an idea for now but if you all want to do it maybe >> we can start at Brierwood Park just >> south of Alderwood. 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URL: From avnacrs4birds at outlook.com Thu May 20 21:14:18 2021 From: avnacrs4birds at outlook.com (Denis DeSilvis) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Joint Base Lewis McChord (JBLM) Eagles Pride Golf Course (GC) monthly bird walk - 5-20-2021 Message-ID: Tweeters, Definitely chilly when we started (43degF), but with the sun busting through as we traversed around the JBLM Eagles Pride GC, it warmed up to a very pleasant 58degF by the time the 12 of us finished. Highlights were several, with the major one being able to see faces (all had been fully vaccinated) after over a year masked-up due to Covid-19. What a treat! Here's the good stuff: 1. About 20 BARN SWALLOWS dive-bombing an American Crow at the driving range. 2. A crow dive-bombing what appeared to be a second-year RED-TAILED HAWK. 3. Two white-fuzzy young at the RED-TAILED HAWK'S nest near Hodge Lake. 4. HERMIT WARBLER (heard) singing in the cut-through from the 4th hole (Green course) to the Dupont housing area. 5. HOUSE WREN nesting in the light fixture at the maintenance area - the 5th year for this occurrence. 6. RED-BREASTED NUTHATCH going into nest hole. 7. RED-BREASTED SAPSUCKERS on a shift-change at nest hole on road near Dupont housing. The JBLM Eagles Pride GC birders meet the third Thursday of each month at 8:00AM. Starting point is Bldg # 1514, Driving Range Tee, Eagles Pride Golf Course, I-5 Exit 116, Mounts Road Exit. Upcoming walks include the following: * June 17 * July 15 * August 19 Anyone is welcome to join us! >From the eBird PNW report: 55 species Canada Goose 4 On 18th fairway - assuming male/female adults with 2 juv young Wood Duck 4 At 9th hole pond Mallard 4 Pied-billed Grebe 1 Hodge Lake Mourning Dove 3 Anna's Hummingbird 5 Rufous Hummingbird 2 Great Blue Heron 1 At 12th hole pond. Bald Eagle 1 Red-tailed Hawk 5 One imm. at cut-through near 3rd hole (Green course); two adults and two downy young at nest near Hodge Lake (second consecutive year at nest developed several years ago). Red-breasted Sapsucker 3 Includes two doing a "shift change" at a nest hole. Downy Woodpecker 1 Pileated Woodpecker 2 Northern Flicker 6 Western Wood-Pewee 7 Pacific-slope Flycatcher 11 Steller's Jay 4 California Scrub-Jay 1 American Crow 6 Common Raven 1 Black-capped Chickadee 10 Chestnut-backed Chickadee 4 Tree Swallow 9 Violet-green Swallow 13 Barn Swallow 30 Bushtit 3 Golden-crowned Kinglet 2 Red-breasted Nuthatch 10 Includes one going into likely nest hole. House Wren 3 One entering light fixture at maintenance area (5th year for a nesting HOWR at this site; one at nest site on 10th hole utility pole. Pacific Wren 2 Bewick's Wren 1 European Starling 6 Swainson's Thrush 4 American Robin 43 Cedar Waxwing 3 Evening Grosbeak 2 Purple Finch 8 Red Crossbill 30 Pine Siskin 32 American Goldfinch 8 Chipping Sparrow 1 Dark-eyed Junco 25 White-crowned Sparrow 17 Song Sparrow 23 Spotted Towhee 12 Red-winged Blackbird 7 Brown-headed Cowbird 8 Orange-crowned Warbler 14 Common Yellowthroat 1 Yellow Warbler 4 Including two of which buzzed through our group of birders several times. Black-throated Gray Warbler 1 Hermit Warbler 1 Heard at cut-through from 4th hole (Green course) to Dupont housing area. Several years in a row at this area. Wilson's Warbler 5 Western Tanager 9 Black-headed Grosbeak 11 View this checklist online at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Febird.org%2Fchecklist%2FS88638212&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cca7a36d98dbc4bc74e5008d91c0c813a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637571662296388488%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=idaH500MVDMtv9weANodSUYf5UGFhYrk%2BMoAfGL3vSM%3D&reserved=0 May all your birds be identified, Denis DeSilvis avnacrs 4 birds at outlook dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wagen at uw.edu Fri May 21 08:33:26 2021 From: wagen at uw.edu (Mike Wagenbach) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Light-weight mid-sized bins? Message-ID: My primary binoculars are a pair of Bushnell 8 x 32 roofs that I've had for maybe 20 years. They're fine: not superb, but well baffled, phase-corrected prisms, fairly sharp. Only problem is that they are heavy for their size and can literally be a pain in the neck (and in the carry-on, when traveling). Any suggestions for a set that have the above qualities but are lighter than average? Price under $300 preferred, but not an absolute requirement. Phase correction and good baffling not negotiable! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dennispaulson at comcast.net Fri May 21 14:19:58 2021 From: dennispaulson at comcast.net (Dennis Paulson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Bob Sundstrom, Gone Birding In-Reply-To: <87d96b82-b835-230c-1081-c6f3aaa3c579@gmail.com> References: <87d96b82-b835-230c-1081-c6f3aaa3c579@gmail.com> Message-ID: I?m just back from a trip with no Wi-fi, so sad now to learn this sad news, and I'm sending all my sympathies to Sally and the rest of Bob?s family. Bob was in my first Master Birders class in 1988, and he went on to shine in the birding world, leading tours and teaching classes to educate and enlighten so many people over the years. He and I taught several weekend classes in eastern Washington years ago, and we had a lot of fun doing that. I was in contact a lot with Bob through the early years of BirdNote as we both were enlisted as writers, and he went on to become the most prolific writer in that important program. Even though Bob had a PhD in Anthropology, he developed as scientific an outlook on birds as any professional ornithologist, and he was a credit to our ornithological and birding community here in tweeters land. I know so many people will remember him fondly, as I do. Dennis Paulson Seattle > On May 17, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Ellen Blackstone wrote: > > Hello, Tweeters, > > Sad news here about Bob Sundstrom from his wife, Sally Alhadeff. > > Take care, Everyone, > Ellen Blackstone > Seattle > ================= > > > Bob Sundstrom passed away on May 16, 2021, after a recurrence of leukemia. He died comfortably and in good spirits at his home in the country along Scatter Creek in south Thurston County, in the company of his wife, Sally Alhadeff and their three cats. He was 69. > > Birds were a great love for Bob, as well as his career. He earned a living as a full-time professional birder: leading tours to many parts of the world for Victor Emanuel Nature Tours, conducting van trips from Mercer Island, teaching, and writing for radio. For thirty years Bob taught Birding by Ear for Seattle Audubon Society, helping many to know and appreciate the voices of birds. > > His writer?s voice will continue to be heard through nearly 900 BirdNote radio stories he authored as Lead Writer. He continued writing into his final days, including a final story on May 14. He thanks founder Chris Peterson and Executive Director Sallie Bodie for the opportunity to be part of the BirdNote team. He was overwhelmed by the gratitude expressed for his career work in his last months. > (https://www.birdnote.org/messages-bob-sundstrom ) > > Bob liked to say that birds were his day job, but not his obsession. When not birding or writing, Bob loved books, music, bicycling, and single malt Scotch. He and Sally took great pleasure in gardening and tending the natural habitats on their rural acres. He became a great admirer of classic literature and poetry. He earned his Ph.D. in cultural anthropology at the University of Washington. > > Bob is survived by his wife, Sally Alhadeff, brother Bill Sundstrom, and nephews Ethan and Erin Sundstrom. His loving parents, Mary and Bill, are deceased. He thanks many friends and colleagues, the Olympia Unitarian Universalist congregation, and Sally?s family for their loving support. > > Sally and Bob had 28 wonderful years together. They loved watching the swallows glide and the ravens soar above their camas-covered meadow along Scatter Creek. > > If you?d like to leave a remembrance in Bob?s name, please consider a donation to BirdNote (birdnote.org). > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A Swainson's Thrush recaptured from last year https://dantallmansbirdblog.blogspot.com/2021/05/swainsons-thrush.html -- Dan or Erika Tallman Olympia, Washington http://dantallmansbirdblog.blogspot.com ".... the best shod travel with wet feet...Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes ....??H. D. Thoreau -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ellenblackstone at gmail.com Sat May 22 12:04:26 2021 From: ellenblackstone at gmail.com (Ellen Blackstone) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] BirdNote, last week and the week of May 23, 2021 Message-ID: <85118710-19b8-4021-0f48-03d05b5dcbf9@gmail.com> Hello, Tweeters, Check out the new BirdNote podcast series, Bring Birds Back, with Tenijah Hamilton. Follow Tenijah as she falls in love with birds and learns that they're in trouble. Listen to the first episode, "How Do We Know That Birds Are in Trouble?" https://www.birdnote.org/listen/podcasts/bring-birds-back ---------------------------- Heard last week on BirdNote: * Shorebirds in Kansas? An Oval Migration Pattern https://bit.ly/3ve28HZ * From Egg-laying to Hatching and Beyond https://bit.ly/2SdmhiG * Flickers and Buffleheads http://bit.ly/2k8gsP7 * The Marsh Wren's Many Nests https://bit.ly/3yyOTnl * The Songs of Two Desert Wrens https://bit.ly/2RvVNsT * Endangered Species Day https://bit.ly/3bOAREb * Unique Chaparral http://bit.ly/14epICs ========================= Next week on BirdNote: Ospreys Never Stop Building, Listen for Tapping, Nesting Niches, Tufted Titmouse, a poem about the Red-eyed Vireo -- and more! https://bit.ly/3hKUq44 -------------------------------------- Did you have a favorite story this week? Another comment? 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We walked up to the crest of the hill, then down towards HWY 101 under the lines, where David got a WE Meadowlark, which I missed as I was checking out the junk stored down there. (Is it useful or refuse?maybe some of it was from aquaculture?) We then walked some in the woods and on our way out, just under the powerlines near the ?intersection? we heard a chat call. After playback, more calls, and the bird flew up from the shrubs and landed in a tree along the trail. It was no more than 30 ft. from the road. We missed our other targets, ?simple? ones like HA Flycatcher and EV Grosbeak, but we got the Big One! Home in time to see the Husky Softball game, which is looking grim. Penny Koyama, Bothell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It was sponsored by LA Birders and is focused on southern Calif mountains, but most of the species occur up here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOcfXRNPWEA&t=1803s On a related note, I'm still seeking feedback on a strange call I recorded on a summer morning east of Snoqualmie Pass nearly three years ago. It's at https://www.xeno-canto.org/490943. Even Lance didn't know what it was. thanks, -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryannethorbeck at comcast.net Sat May 22 22:22:38 2021 From: maryannethorbeck at comcast.net (Mary Anne Thorbeck) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Banded Goose In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c701d74f93$a6539000$f2fab000$@comcast.net> Cool ! Maybe you can report it here and see where it was banded: Subject: U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service - Migratory Bird Program | Conserving America's Birds https://www.fws.gov/birds/surveys-and-data/bird-banding/reporting-banded-bir ds.php Big Google Meet meeting in the morning... condo meeting and I'm taking minutes so going to bed now. Will check in later. --Mary Anne -----Original Message----- From: Tweeters [mailto:tweeters-bounces@mailman11.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Carolyn Eagan Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 8:10 PM To: tweeters@u.washington.edu Subject: [Tweeters] Banded Goose This evening I observed a banded Canada Goose on our beach at Squamish Harbor at the north end of Hood Canal. The band seemed about an inch wide, red and J7 in white. There was more on the back but the bird would turn so I could read it. Carolyn Eagan Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From devonc78 at gmail.com Sat May 22 22:23:30 2021 From: devonc78 at gmail.com (Devon Comstock) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] strange owl calls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pretty sure your mystery bird is a pika Devon Comstock Cashmere, WA On Sat, May 22, 2021, 21:55 Steve Hampton wrote: > I highly recommend this recent webinar by Lance Benner about strange owl > calls, sounds that may sound like owls (e.g. chipmunks, solitaires, quail, > etc), and other owl vocal habits. > > It was sponsored by LA Birders and is focused on southern Calif mountains, > but most of the species occur up here. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOcfXRNPWEA&t=1803s > > On a related note, I'm still seeking feedback on a strange call I recorded > on a summer morning east of Snoqualmie Pass nearly three years ago. It's at > https://www.xeno-canto.org/490943. Even Lance didn't know what it was. > > thanks, > > -- > Steve Hampton > Port Townsend, WA > *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Sat May 22 22:24:08 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] strange owl calls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <242DFDAE-616E-4332-8F44-54D6D27C3A5F@gmail.com> Steve, Were you near any talus slopes and at a higher elevation when you recorded the sounds? Sounds a lot like a Pica. Dan Reiff MI Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2021, at 9:55 PM, Steve Hampton wrote: > > ? > I highly recommend this recent webinar by Lance Benner about strange owl calls, sounds that may sound like owls (e.g. chipmunks, solitaires, quail, etc), and other owl vocal habits. > > It was sponsored by LA Birders and is focused on southern Calif mountains, but most of the species occur up here. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOcfXRNPWEA&t=1803s > > On a related note, I'm still seeking feedback on a strange call I recorded on a summer morning east of Snoqualmie Pass nearly three years ago. It's at https://www.xeno-canto.org/490943. Even Lance didn't know what it was. > > thanks, > > -- > Steve Hampton > Port Townsend, WA > Qatay, S'Klallam territory > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevechampton at gmail.com Sat May 22 22:29:45 2021 From: stevechampton at gmail.com (Steve Hampton) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] strange owl calls In-Reply-To: <242DFDAE-616E-4332-8F44-54D6D27C3A5F@gmail.com> References: <242DFDAE-616E-4332-8F44-54D6D27C3A5F@gmail.com> Message-ID: I was at 2500' in fairly dense forest. The call seemed to be coming from up in the trees. You can zoom in on the xeno-canto map for the area. On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 10:24 PM Dan Reiff wrote: > Steve, > Were you near any talus slopes and at a higher elevation when you recorded > the sounds? > Sounds a lot like a Pica. > Dan Reiff > MI > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 22, 2021, at 9:55 PM, Steve Hampton > wrote: > > ? > I highly recommend this recent webinar by Lance Benner about strange owl > calls, sounds that may sound like owls (e.g. chipmunks, solitaires, quail, > etc), and other owl vocal habits. > > It was sponsored by LA Birders and is focused on southern Calif mountains, > but most of the species occur up here. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOcfXRNPWEA&t=1803s > > On a related note, I'm still seeking feedback on a strange call I recorded > on a summer morning east of Snoqualmie Pass nearly three years ago. It's at > https://www.xeno-canto.org/490943. Even Lance didn't know what it was. > > thanks, > > -- > Steve Hampton > Port Townsend, WA > *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From travelgirl.fics at gmail.com Sat May 22 23:19:34 2021 From: travelgirl.fics at gmail.com (ck park) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Pheasant In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: he has apparently been strutting around the park for a few weeks now. a local photographer's group has been capturing images for about that long... 00 caren ParkGallery.org george davis creek, north fork On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:17 PM Marcy D'Addio wrote: > I observed a pheasant in Marymoor Park in Redmond between 6:30-6:45pm near > the East Parking Lot. He was slowly making his way west. > Marcy D'Addio > Redmond, WA > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From downess at charter.net Sun May 23 05:51:49 2021 From: downess at charter.net (Scott Downes) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] strange owl calls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The sound is a perfect match for pika. I?ve had them in forested areas east of Snoqualmie Pass as long as there was a bit of rocks in the understory. Scott Downes Downess@charter.net Yakima Wa > On May 22, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Steve Hampton wrote: > > ? > I was at 2500' in fairly dense forest. The call seemed to be coming from up in the trees. You can zoom in on the xeno-canto map for the area. > > > >> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 10:24 PM Dan Reiff wrote: >> Steve, >> Were you near any talus slopes and at a higher elevation when you recorded the sounds? >> Sounds a lot like a Pica. >> Dan Reiff >> MI >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On May 22, 2021, at 9:55 PM, Steve Hampton wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> I highly recommend this recent webinar by Lance Benner about strange owl calls, sounds that may sound like owls (e.g. chipmunks, solitaires, quail, etc), and other owl vocal habits. >>> >>> It was sponsored by LA Birders and is focused on southern Calif mountains, but most of the species occur up here. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOcfXRNPWEA&t=1803s >>> >>> On a related note, I'm still seeking feedback on a strange call I recorded on a summer morning east of Snoqualmie Pass nearly three years ago. It's at https://www.xeno-canto.org/490943. Even Lance didn't know what it was. >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> Steve Hampton >>> Port Townsend, WA >>> Qatay, S'Klallam territory >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > > -- > Steve Hampton > Port Townsend, WA > Qatay, S'Klallam territory > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zoramon at mac.com Sun May 23 07:43:46 2021 From: zoramon at mac.com (Zora Monster) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] strange owl calls In-Reply-To: <242DFDAE-616E-4332-8F44-54D6D27C3A5F@gmail.com> References: <242DFDAE-616E-4332-8F44-54D6D27C3A5F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6B5DDC95-BFAD-482E-AF94-1759B0476198@mac.com> Dan, That sounds like a pika to me. Zora Dermer Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Dan Reiff wrote: > > ?Steve, > Were you near any talus slopes and at a higher elevation when you recorded the sounds? > Sounds a lot like a Pica. > Dan Reiff > MI > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On May 22, 2021, at 9:55 PM, Steve Hampton wrote: >>> >> ? >> I highly recommend this recent webinar by Lance Benner about strange owl calls, sounds that may sound like owls (e.g. chipmunks, solitaires, quail, etc), and other owl vocal habits. >> >> It was sponsored by LA Birders and is focused on southern Calif mountains, but most of the species occur up here. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOcfXRNPWEA&t=1803s >> >> On a related note, I'm still seeking feedback on a strange call I recorded on a summer morning east of Snoqualmie Pass nearly three years ago. It's at https://www.xeno-canto.org/490943. Even Lance didn't know what it was. >> >> thanks, >> >> -- >> Steve Hampton >> Port Townsend, WA >> Qatay, S'Klallam territory >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevechampton at gmail.com Sun May 23 10:39:53 2021 From: stevechampton at gmail.com (Steve Hampton) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] strange owl calls In-Reply-To: <6B5DDC95-BFAD-482E-AF94-1759B0476198@mac.com> References: <242DFDAE-616E-4332-8F44-54D6D27C3A5F@gmail.com> <6B5DDC95-BFAD-482E-AF94-1759B0476198@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks all-- fascinating how it sounded like it was coming from up in a Doug fir, but weird sounds can be deceptive. I encourage all to check out the Lance Benner webinar I previously mentioned for other strange owl-like calls in the woods. On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 7:43 AM Zora Monster wrote: > Dan, > > That sounds like a pika to me. > > Zora Dermer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 22, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Dan Reiff wrote: > > ?Steve, > Were you near any talus slopes and at a higher elevation when you recorded > the sounds? > Sounds a lot like a Pica. > Dan Reiff > MI > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 22, 2021, at 9:55 PM, Steve Hampton > wrote: > > ? > I highly recommend this recent webinar by Lance Benner about strange owl > calls, sounds that may sound like owls (e.g. chipmunks, solitaires, quail, > etc), and other owl vocal habits. > > It was sponsored by LA Birders and is focused on southern Calif mountains, > but most of the species occur up here. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOcfXRNPWEA&t=1803s > > On a related note, I'm still seeking feedback on a strange call I recorded > on a summer morning east of Snoqualmie Pass nearly three years ago. It's at > https://www.xeno-canto.org/490943. Even Lance didn't know what it was. > > thanks, > > -- > Steve Hampton > Port Townsend, WA > *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ldhubbell at comcast.net Sun May 23 12:03:15 2021 From: ldhubbell at comcast.net (Hubbell) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Union Bay Watch - BAEA Waiting Message-ID: <94BC0716-027B-4169-8B0F-CCD9BAFBFD0C@comcast.net> Tweeters, Young Eagles in the nest are one of the most hopeful and inspiring moments in life. 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Bill Shelmerdine Sent from my iPhone From jdanzenbaker at gmail.com Sun May 23 13:34:49 2021 From: jdanzenbaker at gmail.com (Jim Danzenbaker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Clark County phalaropes Message-ID: Hi Tweeters, The large pond 100 yards to the east of the dike trail at the end of Lower River Road northwest of Vancouver Lake in Clark County held a few shorebirds this morning: Wilson's Phalarope 6!: I've never seen this many in Clark County before. One pair and one female with an entourage of 3 males. Horrendous photos Red-necked Phalarope: FOY for me. Male and female. Horrendous photos Greater Yellowlegs: 1 Lesser Yellowlegs: 2 Western Sandpiper: 1 Killdeer: 12 https://ebird.org/checklist/S88842972 Keep your eyes and ears skyward. Jim -- Jim Danzenbaker Battle Ground, WA 360-702-9395 jdanzenbaker@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From falconresearch at gmail.com Sun May 23 13:37:42 2021 From: falconresearch at gmail.com (Bud Anderson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Strange call Message-ID: Thanks for directing me to the LA owl sounds seminar. Learned a lot. I listened to your mystery sound from the Cascades. Have you considered a Pika? Sounds very similar to that. Bud Anderson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jriegsecker at pobox.com Sun May 23 20:48:10 2021 From: jriegsecker at pobox.com (John Riegsecker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Partially leucistic Horned Grebe Message-ID: <5a54001b-5ab2-a73e-60a6-10646e54b7ab@pobox.com> All, Thursday, May 20, I photographed a partially leucistic Horned Grebe at Bear River MBR in Utah. After returning home I did some internet research and thought I would share what I found. Photos of the grebe are here: https://skygardener.zenfolio.com/p835320935 I tried to present several angles, and in some photos there is a hint of the horns. Birds of the World says that Leucistic Eared Grebe are not uncommon and have been found breeding. That does not seem to be the case for Horned Grebe as not many show up in a Google image search. For comparison to the one I photographed: https://hamiltonnature.org/birding/birds/photos/three/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/nsxbirder/27345913978/in/pool-47087339@N00 and these two which look more like Eared Grebe to me: https://www.phillybirdnerd.net/2016/10/last-day-in-vegas.html Finally, everything you want to know about aberrant Grebe plumage: https://ps.mnhn.lu/ferrantia/publications/Ferrantia72.pdf John Riegsecker Gig Harbor jriegsecker at pobox.com -- John Riegsecker From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Sun May 23 21:55:09 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Partially leucistic Horned Grebe In-Reply-To: <5a54001b-5ab2-a73e-60a6-10646e54b7ab@pobox.com> References: <5a54001b-5ab2-a73e-60a6-10646e54b7ab@pobox.com> Message-ID: <24BF5D9C-5488-4086-9A6A-C88BC34D4280@gmail.com> Neat bird and photos, John. Thank you for sharing them. Dan Reiff MI Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2021, at 8:49 PM, John Riegsecker wrote: > > ?All, > > Thursday, May 20, I photographed a partially leucistic Horned Grebe at Bear River MBR in Utah. After returning home I did some internet research and thought I would share what I found. Photos of the grebe are here: > > https://skygardener.zenfolio.com/p835320935 > > I tried to present several angles, and in some photos there is a hint of the horns. > > Birds of the World says that Leucistic Eared Grebe are not uncommon and have been found breeding. That does not seem to be the case for Horned Grebe as not many show up in a Google image search. For comparison to the one I photographed: > > https://hamiltonnature.org/birding/birds/photos/three/ > https://www.flickr.com/photos/nsxbirder/27345913978/in/pool-47087339@N00 > > and these two which look more like Eared Grebe to me: > > https://www.phillybirdnerd.net/2016/10/last-day-in-vegas.html > > Finally, everything you want to know about aberrant Grebe plumage: > > https://ps.mnhn.lu/ferrantia/publications/Ferrantia72.pdf > > John Riegsecker Gig Harbor > jriegsecker at pobox.com > -- > John Riegsecker > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From savoiemr at gmail.com Sun May 23 22:23:51 2021 From: savoiemr at gmail.com (Michelle Savoie) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] White Wagtail San Juan Island Message-ID: In case any of you are twitching enough to risk a ferry ride (which have been VERY unreliable this week): White Wagtail on San Juan Island at San Juan County Park. First seen on the 18th by Charis, and popped up on ebird Sat night. Resighted by the local bird nerd flock this morning (Sunday 5/23). Very cooperative. I?m not familiar enough to ID the subspecies. Suggestions welcomed. I am linking Phil Green's ebird, as he posted the most photos and I just had an iphone. https://ebird.org/checklist/S88829226 Cheers! Michelle Savoie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Sun May 23 22:44:32 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] =?utf-8?q?Pika_and_Pica=E2=80=94-Re=3A__strange_owl_ca?= =?utf-8?q?lls?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59D03B0C-A5F3-4E59-AA0E-83641BB56618@gmail.com> Hello Steve and Tweeters, When I suggested to Steve that his sound recording was of a Pika, I misspelled the name of this animal as Pica. My degrees are in Environmental sciences, Public health, nutrition and Clinical psychology. Pica Is a Diagnostic entity in the Feeding and Eating disorders chapter of the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders). The first of four diagnostic criteria for Pica is: ?A. Persistent eating of nonnutritive, nonfood substances over a period of at least one month.? I have filmed Pika, but do not know if they consume nonnutritive, nonfood substances. However, we all know the birds do consume nonfood substances-Grit, (Small, loose particles of gravel or sand)-(As opposed to True Grit, which is associated with John Wayne). So why are birds not diagnosed with Pica? ?Criteria B: The eating of nonnutritive, nonfood substances is inappropriate to the development level of the individual Criteria C: The eating behavior is not part of a cultural supported or socially normative practice.? So, Birds cannot meet the DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for Pica because The book is designed to provide diagnostic criteria for humans only and not other animals and the consumption of grit is appropriate and normative for birds. And to clarify, Pika are not and can?t have, Pica. Just for fun, Dan Reiff MI Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Steve Hampton wrote: > > ? > Thanks all-- fascinating how it sounded like it was coming from up in a Doug fir, but weird sounds can be deceptive. I encourage all to check out the Lance Benner webinar I previously mentioned for other strange owl-like calls in the woods. > > > >> On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 7:43 AM Zora Monster wrote: >> Dan, >> >> That sounds like a pika to me. >> >> Zora Dermer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On May 22, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Dan Reiff wrote: >>>> >>> ?Steve, >>> Were you near any talus slopes and at a higher elevation when you recorded the sounds? >>> Sounds a lot like a Pica. >>> Dan Reiff >>> MI >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On May 22, 2021, at 9:55 PM, Steve Hampton wrote: >>>>> >>>> ? >>>> I highly recommend this recent webinar by Lance Benner about strange owl calls, sounds that may sound like owls (e.g. chipmunks, solitaires, quail, etc), and other owl vocal habits. >>>> >>>> It was sponsored by LA Birders and is focused on southern Calif mountains, but most of the species occur up here. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOcfXRNPWEA&t=1803s >>>> >>>> On a related note, I'm still seeking feedback on a strange call I recorded on a summer morning east of Snoqualmie Pass nearly three years ago. It's at https://www.xeno-canto.org/490943. Even Lance didn't know what it was. >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steve Hampton >>>> Port Townsend, WA >>>> Qatay, S'Klallam territory >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tweeters mailing list >>>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > > -- > Steve Hampton > Port Townsend, WA > Qatay, S'Klallam territory > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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First seen on > the 18th by Charis, and popped up on ebird Sat night. Resighted by the > local bird nerd flock this morning (Sunday 5/23). Very cooperative. I?m not > familiar enough to ID the subspecies. Suggestions welcomed. I am linking > Phil Green's ebird, as he posted the most photos and I just had an iphone. > > https://ebird.org/checklist/S88829226 > > Cheers! > Michelle Savoie > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From meetings at wos.org Mon May 24 09:53:38 2021 From: meetings at wos.org (meetings@wos.org) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] =?utf-8?q?WOS_Monthly_Meeting=2C_Mon=2E=2C_June_7=2C_W?= =?utf-8?q?OS_Members=E2=80=99_Photo_Night?= Message-ID: <20210524165338.6119.qmail@s401.sureserver.com> On Monday June 7, 2021, the Washington Ornithological Society (WOS) invites you to our final Monthly Meeting of this season.??The program will be our ever-popular "WOS Members? Photo Night.???We appreciate the response we got from our "Call-to-Members" which has resulted in a full evening's worth of photos and insights from new and old favorite birding locations.??We thank these presenters, in advance, for sharing their observational and camera skills and invite all to enjoy the show. What:??WOS Members? Photo Night When:??Monday, June 7, 7:30 pm Where:??Via GoToMeeting (Sign-in begins at 7:15 pm) When joining the meeting, we ask that you mute your device and make certain that your camera is turned off. WOS Monthly Meetings remain open to all as we continue to welcome the wider birding community to join us online via GoToMeeting.?? For login information, go to http://wos.org/about-wos/monthly-meetings/.??While there, if you are not yet a member, I hope you will consider becoming one. Please join us! Vicki King, WOS Program Coordinator From florafaunabooks at hotmail.com Mon May 24 09:57:39 2021 From: florafaunabooks at hotmail.com (David Hutchinson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Bob Sundstrom Message-ID: Just back in town to hear the sad but expected news about our delightful colleague Bob. Can't say I knew him super well, but there was a period of years when we were both directors on the Seattle Audubon Board and saw each often. He was obviously intelligent, charming and apparently buttoned-down but he had a great sense of humor behind that. Obviously he knew many feathers of many birds, but I still remember his pleasure in seeing the Kagu on one of his many trips to a remote corners of the world. We also shared our relief when staying on Hazel Wolf's good side. Bob will always be missed, not just for his skills but his nature. David at F & F. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Return flight was also packed. Absolutely everyone in the Big Apple, with virtually no exceptions, was wearing a mask. The Metropolitan Museum of Art was very recently opened, restored and terrific. Might need a reservation tho. Lots of good restaurants open. Adirondacks charming. Not a lifer to be had, but a good time was had by all. Have a happy summer. David Hutchinson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mollycvetovac at gmail.com Mon May 24 12:26:09 2021 From: mollycvetovac at gmail.com (Molly Cvetovac) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? Message-ID: Hi all, I am considering a trip to Hawaii. I've never been and I haven't taken a true vacation in several years. I am wondering if anyone has gone birding there and if so they have recommendations of good birding spots? Thanks, Molly -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hal Michael Board of Directors, Ecologists Without Borders http://ecowb.org/ Olympia WA 360-459-4005 360-791-7702 (C) ucd880@comcast.net > On 05/24/2021 12:26 PM Molly Cvetovac wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I am considering a trip to Hawaii. I've never been and I haven't taken a true vacation in several years. I am wondering if anyone has gone birding there and if so they have recommendations of good birding spots? > > Thanks, > > Molly > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hank.heiberg at yahoo.com Mon May 24 13:12:42 2021 From: hank.heiberg at yahoo.com (Hank Heiberg) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] American Avocets Issaquah References: Message-ID: There are 3 American Avocets off the end of Issaquah Creek in Lake Sammamish State Park. They don?t seem to mind a nearby fisherman. Hank Heiberg Issaquah, WA Sent from my iPhone From birders.2341 at comcast.net Mon May 24 13:24:31 2021 From: birders.2341 at comcast.net (Tom Merritt) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d750da$ce8a4620$6b9ed260$@comcast.net> Each island has different characteristics. We have visited Maui several times and were able to go for 10 days in March to Maui. Our favorite spots there are Hosmer Grove and Kanaha and Kealia Ponds, which we were able to visit, and all have easy access. Otherwise, this time due to health difficulties and Covid restrictions we restricted our activities to the Kaanapali Area and daily walks in that area. But we still had a wonderful time and some good birds. Good Travels! Tom From: Tweeters On Behalf Of Molly Cvetovac Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:26 To: Tweeters Tweeters Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our vote is the Big Island and one or two tours with Hawaii Forest and Trails, which picks up at various hotel/condo areas. And the Aimakapa Pond for shorebirds. Oahu is also good, especially Kapiolani Park at the Diamond end of Waikiki with many of the introduced birds and the irresistible White Tern; and tropicbirds and boobies off the windward side near Sea Life Park/Blow Hole/Hanaumu Bay. Kauai has its great lighthouse for tropicbirds, Layson Albatross (until July), and if you go to the gate at night you can hear the shearwaters coming in with the eerie calls that frightened sailors back in the day. Plus the often wet Kokee Park up at the top via Waimea Cyn. There?s a little book you can get, Hawaii?s Birds put out by their Audubon?try the SAS Nature Shop for that. The books has details on most of the expected birds with site suggestions on each island. Penny Koyama, Bothell From: Molly Cvetovac Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:26 PM To: Tweeters Tweeters Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? Hi all, I am considering a trip to Hawaii. I've never been and I haven't taken a true vacation in several years. I am wondering if anyone has gone birding there and if so they have recommendations of good birding spots? Thanks, Molly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dougsantoni at gmail.com Mon May 24 14:34:31 2021 From: dougsantoni at gmail.com (Doug Santoni) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97058610-9B45-488A-B90F-613274D06D42@gmail.com> Molly ? I support all the suggestions you?ve received, but if you end up in Maui, do consider the tour offered just once monthly into the Nature Conservancy?s Waikamoi Reserve. It?s adjacent to Hosmer Grover, and offers a trail including a narrow boardwalk through some gorgeous native plants. A very magical place (and several endemic landlords to be seen!). https://www.nature.org/en-us/get-involved/how-to-help/places-we-protect/waikamoi/?tab_q=tab_container-tab_element_1499760288 And even if you?re traveling with non-birding friends and family, the birdlife around the Kilauea Lighthouse on Kauai (near Princeville) is wonderful. Doug Santoni Seattle 98112 > On May 24, 2021, at 1:59 PM, wrote: > > Our vote is the Big Island and one or two tours with Hawaii Forest and Trails, which picks up at various hotel/condo areas. And the Aimakapa Pond for shorebirds. Oahu is also good, especially Kapiolani Park at the Diamond end of Waikiki with many of the introduced birds and the irresistible White Tern; and tropicbirds and boobies off the windward side near Sea Life Park/Blow Hole/Hanaumu Bay. Kauai has its great lighthouse for tropicbirds, Layson Albatross (until July), and if you go to the gate at night you can hear the shearwaters coming in with the eerie calls that frightened sailors back in the day. Plus the often wet Kokee Park up at the top via Waimea Cyn. There?s a little book you can get, Hawaii?s Birds put out by their Audubon?try the SAS Nature Shop for that. The books has details on most of the expected birds with site suggestions on each island. > Penny Koyama, Bothell > > From: Molly Cvetovac <> > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:26 PM > To: Tweeters Tweeters <> > Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? > > Hi all, > > I am considering a trip to Hawaii. I've never been and I haven't taken a true vacation in several years. I am wondering if anyone has gone birding there and if so they have recommendations of good birding spots? > > Thanks, > > Molly > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ucd880 at comcast.net Mon May 24 16:04:53 2021 From: ucd880 at comcast.net (HAL MICHAEL) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? In-Reply-To: <97058610-9B45-488A-B90F-613274D06D42@gmail.com> References: <97058610-9B45-488A-B90F-613274D06D42@gmail.com> Message-ID: <499851788.64530.1621897493742@connect.xfinity.com> I would add, if you are considering Kauai, that there are some serious constraints (currently) on the road to Hanalei. They had some bad slides. The situation changes rapidly. Hal Michael Board of Directors, Ecologists Without Borders http://ecowb.org/ Olympia WA 360-459-4005 360-791-7702 (C) ucd880@comcast.net > On 05/24/2021 2:34 PM Doug Santoni wrote: > > > Molly ? I support all the suggestions you?ve received, but if you end up in Maui, do consider the tour offered just once monthly into the Nature Conservancy?s Waikamoi Reserve. It?s adjacent to Hosmer Grover, and offers a trail including a narrow boardwalk through some gorgeous native plants. A very magical place (and several endemic landlords to be seen!). > > https://www.nature.org/en-us/get-involved/how-to-help/places-we-protect/waikamoi/?tab_q=tab_container-tab_element_1499760288 > > And even if you?re traveling with non-birding friends and family, the birdlife around the Kilauea Lighthouse on Kauai (near Princeville) is wonderful. > > Doug Santoni > Seattle 98112 > > > > > On May 24, 2021, at 1:59 PM, < plkoyama@comcast.net mailto:plkoyama@comcast.net > < plkoyama@comcast.net mailto:plkoyama@comcast.net > wrote: > > Our vote is the Big Island and one or two tours with Hawaii Forest and Trails, which picks up at various hotel/condo areas. And the Aimakapa Pond for shorebirds. Oahu is also good, especially Kapiolani Park at the Diamond end of Waikiki with many of the introduced birds and the irresistible White Tern; and tropicbirds and boobies off the windward side near Sea Life Park/Blow Hole/Hanaumu Bay. Kauai has its great lighthouse for tropicbirds, Layson Albatross (until July), and if you go to the gate at night you can hear the shearwaters coming in with the eerie calls that frightened sailors back in the day. Plus the often wet Kokee Park up at the top via Waimea Cyn. There?s a little book you can get, Hawaii?s Birds put out by their Audubon?try the SAS Nature Shop for that. The books has details on most of the expected birds with site suggestions on each island. > > Penny Koyama, Bothell > > > > From: Molly Cvetovac > > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:26 PM > > To: Tweeters Tweeters > > Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am considering a trip to Hawaii. I've never been and I haven't taken a true vacation in several years. 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Good luck! :) > > -Michelle > > On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 10:23 PM Michelle Savoie > wrote: > In case any of you are twitching enough to risk a ferry ride (which have been VERY unreliable this week): > > White Wagtail on San Juan Island at San Juan County Park. First seen on the 18th by Charis, and popped up on ebird Sat night. Resighted by the local bird nerd flock this morning (Sunday 5/23). Very cooperative. I?m not familiar enough to ID the subspecies. Suggestions welcomed. I am linking Phil Green's ebird, as he posted the most photos and I just had an iphone. > > https://ebird.org/checklist/S88829226 > > Cheers! > Michelle Savoie > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've never been and I haven't taken a true vacation in several years. I am wondering if anyone has gone birding there and if so they have recommendations of good birding spots? Thanks, Molly _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avnacrs4birds at outlook.com Mon May 24 20:08:54 2021 From: avnacrs4birds at outlook.com (Denis DeSilvis) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Jack Jeffrey, who?s photos are featured in the Hawai?i Audubon Society?s bird book, leads great trips to Hakalau Forest National Wildlife Refuge on Da Big Island. I managed to get on a trip while over there last year in early February, just before COVID hit us. Great trip and got all the Hawai?i endemics - just excellent! May all your birds be identified, Denis DeSilvis Avian Acres ? avnacrs 4 birds at outlook dot com Roy, WA ________________________________ From: Tweeters on behalf of plkoyama@comcast.net Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 14:01 To: Molly Cvetovac; Tweeters Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? Our vote is the Big Island and one or two tours with Hawaii Forest and Trails, which picks up at various hotel/condo areas. And the Aimakapa Pond for shorebirds. Oahu is also good, especially Kapiolani Park at the Diamond end of Waikiki with many of the introduced birds and the irresistible White Tern; and tropicbirds and boobies off the windward side near Sea Life Park/Blow Hole/Hanaumu Bay. Kauai has its great lighthouse for tropicbirds, Layson Albatross (until July), and if you go to the gate at night you can hear the shearwaters coming in with the eerie calls that frightened sailors back in the day. Plus the often wet Kokee Park up at the top via Waimea Cyn. There?s a little book you can get, Hawaii?s Birds put out by their Audubon?try the SAS Nature Shop for that. The books has details on most of the expected birds with site suggestions on each island. Penny Koyama, Bothell From: Molly Cvetovac Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:26 PM To: Tweeters Tweeters Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? Hi all, I am considering a trip to Hawaii. I've never been and I haven't taken a true vacation in several years. I am wondering if anyone has gone birding there and if so they have recommendations of good birding spots? Thanks, Molly ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikiconway at gmail.com Mon May 24 20:15:30 2021 From: mikiconway at gmail.com (Carla Conway) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? In-Reply-To: <202105250214.14P2E8LH019083@mxout25.s.uw.edu> References: <673737142.3442896.1621901727342@mail.yahoo.com> <202105250214.14P2E8LH019083@mxout25.s.uw.edu> Message-ID: Hi Molly, The Hawai'i Audubon Society's website has a lot of helpful information on birding in Hawai'i. You can also purchase the just-released 7th edition of Hawai'i's Birds and watch presentations from four photographers who contributed to the book. The folks at Hawai'i Audubon also offer field trips (the schedule can be found in the 'Elepaio newsletter) and may have recommendations for birding tours. Hawai'i Audubon Society I really enjoyed the Hawai'i Island Festival of Birds last year. It was held virtually and video presentations on a wide variety of subjects can still be viewed on their website. Hawai'i Island Festival of Birds Enjoy your trip! Carla On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 7:27 PM sherryandangus wrote: > Buy the book before you go. I couldn't find one on the big island when I > was there in March. > Sherry Anderson > Port Angeles, WA > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: nightwings406@aol.com > Date: 5/24/21 5:19 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: mollycvetovac@gmail.com, tweeters@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? > > The Hawaiian Audubon Society had a small book "Hawaii's Birds" you might > find interesting. Don't know if it's still available though. > Donna Ferrill > Snohomish > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly Cvetovac > To: Tweeters Tweeters > Sent: Mon, May 24, 2021 12:26 pm > Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? > > Hi all, > > I am considering a trip to Hawaii. I've never been and I haven't taken a > true vacation in several years. I am wondering if anyone has gone birding > there and if so they have recommendations of good birding spots? > > Thanks, > > Molly > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rflores_2 at msn.com Mon May 24 20:16:18 2021 From: rflores_2 at msn.com (Bob) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: I agree Jack is the best if you want to pick up the high elevation endemics on the big island. He led me on a trip into the Refuge many years ago and it?s been one of my favorite experiences. Jack was the Refuge Biologist in his previous life and is just a nice guy. Bob Flores Ridgefield, WA On May 24, 2021, at 20:10, Denis DeSilvis wrote: ? Jack Jeffrey, who?s photos are featured in the Hawai?i Audubon Society?s bird book, leads great trips to Hakalau Forest National Wildlife Refuge on Da Big Island. I managed to get on a trip while over there last year in early February, just before COVID hit us. Great trip and got all the Hawai?i endemics - just excellent! May all your birds be identified, Denis DeSilvis Avian Acres ? avnacrs 4 birds at outlook dot com Roy, WA ________________________________ From: Tweeters on behalf of plkoyama@comcast.net Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 14:01 To: Molly Cvetovac; Tweeters Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? Our vote is the Big Island and one or two tours with Hawaii Forest and Trails, which picks up at various hotel/condo areas. And the Aimakapa Pond for shorebirds. Oahu is also good, especially Kapiolani Park at the Diamond end of Waikiki with many of the introduced birds and the irresistible White Tern; and tropicbirds and boobies off the windward side near Sea Life Park/Blow Hole/Hanaumu Bay. Kauai has its great lighthouse for tropicbirds, Layson Albatross (until July), and if you go to the gate at night you can hear the shearwaters coming in with the eerie calls that frightened sailors back in the day. Plus the often wet Kokee Park up at the top via Waimea Cyn. There?s a little book you can get, Hawaii?s Birds put out by their Audubon?try the SAS Nature Shop for that. The books has details on most of the expected birds with site suggestions on each island. Penny Koyama, Bothell From: Molly Cvetovac Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:26 PM To: Tweeters Tweeters Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? Hi all, I am considering a trip to Hawaii. I've never been and I haven't taken a true vacation in several years. I am wondering if anyone has gone birding there and if so they have recommendations of good birding spots? Thanks, Molly ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tsbrennan at hotmail.com Mon May 24 20:46:47 2021 From: tsbrennan at hotmail.com (Tim Brennan) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] American Avocets - Lake Sammamish YES Message-ID: Hey Tweets, I popped by the beach area at Lake Sammamish State Park at about 7:20, and got to see the three American Avocets in flight across the water as I approached. They had me worried for a minute because they just kept going right off towards Cougar Mountain. . . but then they turned around - phew! But then they continued East and disappeared on me. I waited for about ten minutes with no sign of them. I would say "Oh well, they're gone," but I did see another report on eBird that went about the same. The birds "flew off towards North Bend", which sounds just about right. This was from an hour or two before me, and they appear to have returned. So they may very well be worth a chase still. Also got to watch a beaver having a meal at the mouth of the creek as I waited, which was a treat as well. Cheers, Tim Brennan Renton tsbrennan at hotmail dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jon.Houghton at hartcrowser.com Mon May 24 21:31:19 2021 From: Jon.Houghton at hartcrowser.com (Houghton, Jon) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Black-throated Sparrow(s) in Walla Walla Co. Message-ID: Hi Tweeterdom - today, Kathleen and I headed east for one of our spring outings to Walla Walla. It's windy here!! But, we had great ease in finding FOY Bullock's Orioles, but NO Common Nighthawks at the Vernita Rest Stop, en route. At Horn Rapids Co.Park, where CONI have been a sure thing for me in the past, they must have blown elsewhere - not in their usual day roost trees. We did a breezy walkabout and enjoyed a plethora of YB Chats - readily heard above the wind, along with some other nice and vocal birds. A quick drive through of the Two Rivers Unit showed the usual many Am. White Pelican and gulls, handling the wind much better than us birders. At the Millet Ponds, we found abundant White-faced Ibis, Black-necked Stilts, Great Egrets, and a few Am. Avocets but no Night Herons could be found braving the gale. The real prize of the day, was found about 1/2 mile up 9-Mile Canyon Rd. "Anonymous" reported a Black-throated Sparrow here yesterday, the same day that Mike and MaryLynn Denny found one farther north in the county! Fortunately, MerryLynn knew Anonymous and the distance up 9-mile Rd. of the report. Because of the wind (and time of day), we figured we'd give the 9-mile bird a shot. We stopped about 1/2 mile up the road and I played the BTSP song into the wind. We heard some sketchy bird song down in the draw. We tracked these first birds down as Lark Sparrows, but when they flew off, some song was still heard over the wind. Finally catching a look at the bird, my first glimpse was of a jet black throat and beautifully striped crown. It seemed to be singing in response to my playback but...a truck came along and my phone died, so no pix. A great state first for us though. As a bonus, two adult Ferruginous Hawks soaring above the nest platform. 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Good birding, Matt Dufort On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:03 AM David Hutchinson < florafaunabooks@hotmail.com> wrote: > Just returned to Capehart in Discovery Park and there is > one heckuva noise coming from the nearby area of a Raven's > nest. One suspects several most vocal young. David H. > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marvbreece at q.com Tue May 25 07:20:05 2021 From: marvbreece at q.com (Marv Breece) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] contact request Message-ID: <2107818106.20090827.1621952405172.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com> Would Roger Orness or Barbara Petersen please contact me? Thanks. 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Great trip and got all the Hawai?i endemics - just excellent! > > May all your birds be identified, > Denis DeSilvis > Avian Acres ? > avnacrs 4 birds at outlook dot com > Roy, WA > > --------------------------------------------- > From: Tweeters on behalf of plkoyama@comcast.net > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 14:01 > To: Molly Cvetovac; Tweeters > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? > > Our vote is the Big Island and one or two tours with Hawaii Forest and Trails, which picks up at various hotel/condo areas. And the Aimakapa Pond for shorebirds. Oahu is also good, especially Kapiolani Park at the Diamond end of Waikiki with many of the introduced birds and the irresistible White Tern; and tropicbirds and boobies off the windward side near Sea Life Park/Blow Hole/Hanaumu Bay. Kauai has its great lighthouse for tropicbirds, Layson Albatross (until July), and if you go to the gate at night you can hear the shearwaters coming in with the eerie calls that frightened sailors back in the day. Plus the often wet Kokee Park up at the top via Waimea Cyn. There?s a little book you can get, Hawaii?s Birds put out by their Audubon?try the SAS Nature Shop for that. The books has details on most of the expected birds with site suggestions on each island. > Penny Koyama, Bothell > > From: Molly Cvetovac > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:26 PM > To: Tweeters Tweeters > Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? > > Hi all, > > I am considering a trip to Hawaii. I've never been and I haven't taken a true vacation in several years. I am wondering if anyone has gone birding there and if so they have recommendations of good birding spots? > > Thanks, > > Molly > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From benedict.t at comcast.net Tue May 25 09:16:53 2021 From: benedict.t at comcast.net (THOMAS BENEDICT) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Discovery Ravens/Matt Dufort In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <707891718.57250.1621959413366@connect.xfinity.com> We have had at least one Raven in our Burien, WA neighborhood for the past 4-5 years. I suspect there is more than one, but I have never seen two or more together. The Raven is frequently associated with American Crows who chase it. Both the Raven and Crows work together to harass the Bald Eagles. Tom Benedict Seahurst, WA > On 05/25/2021 8:15 AM David Hutchinson wrote: > > > Matt, Ravens have definitely been around for some time, > though exact date unknown. As some confirmation, in > 2020, a dead Raven young was found near the nest. In > 2019, I saw a juvenile Raven being chased by a small > group of Am Crows over Capehart. I believe there may > have been earlier year reports of adults in the general > area. Interestingly enough, there have also been sightings > of adult Ravens flying in the general direction of West > Seattle. 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Be sure to contact them first as they only do so many tours a year due to permits to Hakalau. > > > > > On 05/24/2021 8:08 PM Denis DeSilvis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jack Jeffrey, who?s photos are featured in the Hawai?i Audubon Society?s bird book, leads great trips to Hakalau Forest National Wildlife Refuge on Da Big Island. I managed to get on a trip while over there last year in early February, just before COVID hit us. Great trip and got all the Hawai?i endemics - just excellent! > > > > May all your birds be identified, > > Denis DeSilvis > > Avian Acres ? > > avnacrs 4 birds at outlook dot com > > Roy, WA > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > From: Tweeters on behalf of plkoyama@comcast.net > > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 14:01 > > To: Molly Cvetovac; Tweeters > > Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? > > > > Our vote is the Big Island and one or two tours with Hawaii Forest and Trails, which picks up at various hotel/condo areas. And the Aimakapa Pond for shorebirds. Oahu is also good, especially Kapiolani Park at the Diamond end of Waikiki with many of the introduced birds and the irresistible White Tern; and tropicbirds and boobies off the windward side near Sea Life Park/Blow Hole/Hanaumu Bay. Kauai has its great lighthouse for tropicbirds, Layson Albatross (until July), and if you go to the gate at night you can hear the shearwaters coming in with the eerie calls that frightened sailors back in the day. Plus the often wet Kokee Park up at the top via Waimea Cyn. There?s a little book you can get, Hawaii?s Birds put out by their Audubon?try the SAS Nature Shop for that. The books has details on most of the expected birds with site suggestions on each island. > > Penny Koyama, Bothell > > > > From: Molly Cvetovac > > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:26 PM > > To: Tweeters Tweeters > > Subject: [Tweeters] Birding in Hawaii? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am considering a trip to Hawaii. 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Just checked. eBird shows no Washington state records.for Little Sting Bob OBrien Portland On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:43 AM Dave Slager > wrote: Tweeters, I haven't seen a message here yet, but there has been a Little Stint reported in Stanwood recently. Check eBird for details. Dave Slager Seattle, WA _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdanzenbaker at gmail.com Tue May 25 11:46:52 2021 From: jdanzenbaker at gmail.com (Jim Danzenbaker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Little Stint in Snohomish Co. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here's one of about ten reports of the Little Stint. Little Stint (Calidris minuta) (1) - Reported May 25, 2021 05:46 by Ryan Merrill - Leque Island--Eide Rd., Snohomish, Washington - Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=48.2320943,-122.3829746&ll=48.2320943,-122.3829746 - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S88966824 - Comments: "6:47 ad for 5+ min distantly. Strikingly bright even on a gray morning. Continuing from 5/23 when found by Mitchell Von Rotz." Jim Battle Ground, WA On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:42 AM Todd Sahl wrote: > The records won?t show up until the reports are confirmed by a county > eBird reviewer. > > In the meantime a quick way to see the reports would be to look at the > Snohomish county rare bird alert, which will show both confirmed and > unconfirmed reports. > > Todd S > Bellevue > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 25, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Robert O'Brien wrote: > > ? > Just checked. eBird shows no Washington state records.for Little Sting > Bob OBrien Portland > > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:43 AM Dave Slager > wrote: > >> Tweeters, >> >> I haven't seen a message here yet, but there has been a Little Stint >> reported in Stanwood recently. Check eBird for details. >> >> Dave Slager >> Seattle, WA >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- Jim Danzenbaker Battle Ground, WA 360-702-9395 jdanzenbaker@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From plkoyama at comcast.net Tue May 25 20:06:46 2021 From: plkoyama at comcast.net (plkoyama@comcast.net) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Little Stint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tweets, David and I just rt?d from Eide Rd and the Little Stint. When we arrived at 4:30 pm, a group of birders had the stint in their scopes, but quite far out. Joshua Glant seemed best able to get the growing crowd on the bird, id?d by its smaller size and shorter bill than the Western Sands. At the distance?the small shorebird flock was on some small islands close to one of the stakes in the middle of the wet/muddy area?color was not really evident, just dark markings on the neck. High tide was just after 6pm and predicted at 7 ft. As the tide came in covering the small islands with water, the peeps took off to the left. I was able to follow them with bins and saw that they landed not far from the end of the path. The group headed out there, and looks were still excellent at 6 when we left. What a beauty! I called it rosy, but the Sibley says orange. Whatever, it is quite nicely colored in comparison with the Westerns. Also present were a couple of Whimbrels in the mud before the tide came in and 20 in flight as we were leaving. And 2 female Wilsons?s Phalaropes at the end of the trail were foraging with the peeps. Plus a BW Teal pair, also at the trail terminus. No mud walking was required and scope views were great! Penny Koyama, Bothell From: Michael Hobbs Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 3:56 PM To: Tweeters Subject: [Tweeters] Little Stint The Little Stint was still present as of 3:15 at Eide Rd., Stanwood, Snohomish County, as it has been all day. You'll need to walk to the end of the dike, and then another 0.2 miles to just past the grove of dead willows. The stint was loosely hanging out with a scattered collection of Western Sandpipers, 20-30 yards from the remnant of the old road. You will get a little muddy, but if you're careful, the mud won't be more than an inch deep. The orange on the upper breast (and stronger orange tones on back and crown), the short, straight bill, and the cute orange-and white face help to distinguish it from the various Westerns. Good luck. - Michael Hobbs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thefedderns at gmail.com Wed May 26 00:19:49 2021 From: thefedderns at gmail.com (Hans-Joachim Feddern) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Discovery Ravens/Matt Dufort In-Reply-To: <707891718.57250.1621959413366@connect.xfinity.com> References: <707891718.57250.1621959413366@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: Very Interesting! We have had a pair of Ravens at Dash Point SP for several years now, but I have never found a nest. Hans On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 9:18 AM THOMAS BENEDICT wrote: > We have had at least one Raven in our Burien, WA neighborhood for the past > 4-5 years. I suspect there is more than one, but I have never seen two or > more together. The Raven is frequently associated with American Crows who > chase it. Both the Raven and Crows work together to harass the Bald Eagles. > > Tom Benedict > Seahurst, WA > > On 05/25/2021 8:15 AM David Hutchinson > wrote: > > > Matt, Ravens have definitely been around for some time, > though exact date unknown. As some confirmation, in > 2020, a dead Raven young was found near the nest. In > 2019, I saw a juvenile Raven being chased by a small > group of Am Crows over Capehart. I believe there may > have been earlier year reports of adults in the general > area. Interestingly enough, there have also been sightings > of adult Ravens flying in the general direction of West > Seattle. David Hutchinson > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- *Hans Feddern* Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA thefedderns@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coheberlein at gmail.com Wed May 26 18:32:36 2021 From: coheberlein at gmail.com (Carolyn Heberlein) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Robin Chasing Crow Message-ID: I've observed this in my garden at least 6 times in the past 2 weeks. A crow was at a bird feeder or a bird bath, when a robin flew in and chased the crow away. Wow! 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The signs people were seeing near there were not put up by the city, but someone with neighboring property. Marty said birders are always welcome!! P.S. I saw the ebird list for May 14th where a Bittern was reported. I've never seen one in Douglas Co., and wonder why it wasn't reported by ebird as a "rare bird alert". I"ll be going back for just that one bird. Meredith Spencer From tsbrennan at hotmail.com Wed May 26 21:41:59 2021 From: tsbrennan at hotmail.com (Tim Brennan) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Waterville STP - Douglas County Message-ID: Hello! I wanted to pass along a clarification regarding access to the Waterville STP over in Douglas County. I was under the impression that the signage around the place indicated that it was not available for public access. Meredith Spencer from Bridgeport passed this along to me, and I'd say it's about as authoritative as it can get: "I have lived in Bridgeport for many, many years and have birded the Waterville sewer plant. Last Tues., May 25th I stopped at their City Hall and asked if I could still bird there. I was told, yes! It is nice if you let someone at City Hall know you plan to be there, but they didn't say it was required. Later, while I was there birding, Marty came by. He is the one in charge and said birders are always welcome! He remembered meeting me several years ago. The signs people were seeing near there were not put up by the city, but someone with neighboring property. Marty said birders are always welcome!!" So there's a little bit of good news! I know in years past, I've found some good shorebirds in there, and there was even a report of an American Bittern a few weeks back, which is not an easy bird in Douglas! 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Plumage was very much the same as the others and had none of the extensive rufous tones of the stint. During our search, Ian MacGregor spotted 3-4 Yellow-headed Blackbird across the river which were rare for the area. He also regaled us of his world birding travels, whetting our appetite to return to that activity soon. I was slow to find out about this bird and admit I don't get Tweeters digests and probably don't use eBird alerts to their fullest. I appreciate Dave Slager and others posting to Tweeters and encourage eBird users to also put the word out with details on Tweeters when they've spotted a rare bird. There are many birders who don't use eBird and I'm sure they appreciate the Tweeters posts. Though humbling, I think these "swing and miss" reports are also of use as many of us travel long distances in hopes of relocating rare birds. Cara Borre Gig Harbor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From amk17 at earthlink.net Thu May 27 07:17:45 2021 From: amk17 at earthlink.net (AMK17) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Phinney ridge yellow warbler Message-ID: <371429795.867.1622125065982@wamui-esmeralda.atl.sa.earthlink.net> This morning the first spring yellow warbler was in my Phinney yard singing and foraging. Happy warbling! AKopitov Seattle AMK17 From dave.slager at gmail.com Thu May 27 07:46:14 2021 From: dave.slager at gmail.com (Dave Slager) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Little Stint in Snohomish Co. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tweeters, I'd also like to put in a plug for continuing to post big rarities to tweeters. The only way I know of to be alerted about the Little Stint on eBird would be to be subscribed to Snohomish or statewide eBird alerts. Many of us are not, because subscribing to these alerts means lots of emails about county level rarities or rarities in far-flung corners of Washington. A quick tweeters post does the trick by getting the word out, even if just cluing people in to look it up on eBird. Dave Slager Seattle, WA On Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:47 Jim Danzenbaker wrote: > Here's one of about ten reports of the Little Stint. > > Little Stint (Calidris minuta) (1) > - Reported May 25, 2021 05:46 by Ryan Merrill > - Leque Island--Eide Rd., Snohomish, Washington > - Map: > http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=48.2320943,-122.3829746&ll=48.2320943,-122.3829746 > - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S88966824 > - Comments: "6:47 ad for 5+ min distantly. Strikingly bright even on a > gray morning. Continuing from 5/23 when found by Mitchell Von Rotz." > > Jim > Battle Ground, WA > > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:42 AM Todd Sahl wrote: > >> The records won?t show up until the reports are confirmed by a county >> eBird reviewer. >> >> In the meantime a quick way to see the reports would be to look at the >> Snohomish county rare bird alert, which will show both confirmed and >> unconfirmed reports. >> >> Todd S >> Bellevue >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 25, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Robert O'Brien wrote: >> >> ? >> Just checked. eBird shows no Washington state records.for Little Sting >> Bob OBrien Portland >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:43 AM Dave Slager >> wrote: >> >>> Tweeters, >>> >>> I haven't seen a message here yet, but there has been a Little Stint >>> reported in Stanwood recently. Check eBird for details. >>> >>> Dave Slager >>> Seattle, WA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > > > -- > Jim Danzenbaker > Battle Ground, WA > 360-702-9395 > jdanzenbaker@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdanzenbaker at gmail.com Thu May 27 08:00:06 2021 From: jdanzenbaker at gmail.com (Jim Danzenbaker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Little Stint in Snohomish Co. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dave and Tweeters, I have a request. When mentioning on Tweeters that there's an eBird report for such and such a bird, it would be really helpful if the County could be mentioned in the message. I find it much easier to track down a report if I know which county the report is from. Of course, the easiest way is to paste a link to the exact eBird report on the tweeters post. Keep your eyes and ears skyward (or sometimes on the mud). Jim Battle Ground, WA On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 7:46 AM Dave Slager wrote: > Tweeters, > > I'd also like to put in a plug for continuing to post big rarities to > tweeters. > > The only way I know of to be alerted about the Little Stint on eBird would > be to be subscribed to Snohomish or statewide eBird alerts. Many of us are > not, because subscribing to these alerts means lots of emails about county > level rarities or rarities in far-flung corners of Washington. > > A quick tweeters post does the trick by getting the word out, even if just > cluing people in to look it up on eBird. > > Dave Slager > Seattle, WA > > On Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:47 Jim Danzenbaker > wrote: > >> Here's one of about ten reports of the Little Stint. >> >> Little Stint (Calidris minuta) (1) >> - Reported May 25, 2021 05:46 by Ryan Merrill >> - Leque Island--Eide Rd., Snohomish, Washington >> - Map: >> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=48.2320943,-122.3829746&ll=48.2320943,-122.3829746 >> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S88966824 >> - Comments: "6:47 ad for 5+ min distantly. Strikingly bright even on a >> gray morning. Continuing from 5/23 when found by Mitchell Von Rotz." >> >> Jim >> Battle Ground, WA >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:42 AM Todd Sahl wrote: >> >>> The records won?t show up until the reports are confirmed by a county >>> eBird reviewer. >>> >>> In the meantime a quick way to see the reports would be to look at the >>> Snohomish county rare bird alert, which will show both confirmed and >>> unconfirmed reports. >>> >>> Todd S >>> Bellevue >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 25, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Robert O'Brien wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> Just checked. eBird shows no Washington state records.for Little Sting >>> Bob OBrien Portland >>> >>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:43 AM Dave Slager >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Tweeters, >>>> >>>> I haven't seen a message here yet, but there has been a Little Stint >>>> reported in Stanwood recently. Check eBird for details. >>>> >>>> Dave Slager >>>> Seattle, WA >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tweeters mailing list >>>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Danzenbaker >> Battle Ground, WA >> 360-702-9395 >> jdanzenbaker@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > -- Jim Danzenbaker Battle Ground, WA 360-702-9395 jdanzenbaker@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We passed the Sooty Shearwater (669) and Common Murre (286) zone with enough birds to show those onboard these two reference species to compare others in their genus to as we encountered them later. Eventually we approached the fishing boats only to find relatively little bird activity. We got good looks at Black-footed Albatross (65), Northern Fulmar (10) and Fork-tailed Storm-Petrel (25). Pink-footed Shearwater (11) continues to be scarce at this time with many birds in heavy molt. Red-necked Phalaropes (117) came and went in small flocks throughout the day. We had brief, but close looks at Red Phalarope (12) in flight. I continue to struggle with these birds in flight, but know to look for a dark belly on Red and a white belly on Red-necked. This distinction should work well while they are in breeding plumage. Curiously during the trip we ?logged? three species of alcid standing out of the water. First we spotted 4-5 Rhinocerous Auklet (207) standing and displaying on a log. Later we were fortunate to see 2 Tufted Puffins in the water. They cooperated nicely, staying put for viewing and photos. Not long after that sighting, we found another Puffin on what appeared to be a log, but was a collection of kelp. This bird, surrounded by Rhinos, was also quite cooperative for extended observation. On the way in, we saw several Common Murre standing on a log resting with a few Common Tern. Cassin?s Auklet (37) was seen, mainly flying away from the boat as is typical, but I hope one day to add it to my ?alcid on log? list. Sabine?s Gull (67) showed in good numbers with nice looks in flight. Surprisingly we had a South Polar Skua which is only the eighth time we?ve seen this species in May. Parasitic and Long-tailed Jaeger were seen and identified by only a few of us as they were distant and passing by. Another unusual find for May was a fabulous look at a mammoth Ocean Sunfish. Usually these fish show up in June when the water is a bit warmer. We capped the journey with the crowd pleasing Humpback Whale (7). Many onboard were new to pelagic birding and several were visiting from out of state. Though bird numbers were low, they saw most, if not all the expected species, and I hope they will share their pictures of the ?log rolling alcids? as these are fun sightings. The Westport Seabirds team of Captain Phil and Firstmate Chris Anderson, were joined by spotters Bill Shelmerdine, Scott Mills and myself. Please check westportseabirds.com for our trip schedule. Here?s a video link from the May 8th trip which also included ?Rhinos on a log?. https://youtu.be/MymnSP870mI Hope to sea you out there! Cara Borre Gig Harbor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birder at pottersaylor.com Thu May 27 09:57:05 2021 From: birder at pottersaylor.com (Mary Saylor) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Horned Puffin on Smith Island-- and viewing RFI Message-ID: So I?ll just share a couple of the notable rarities I?m seeing today on eBird through the Birder?s Dashboard.(http://birdingwashington.info/dashboard/wa/) Alex Patia photographed a Horned Puffin near Smith Island on Whidbey (Island County). Apparently this is also a nesting location for Tufted Puffin, and Alex saw those too. I don?t know how they were viewed, but I imagine it must have been by boat. Years ago I joined in when a number of birders rented a boat to chase another Horned Puffin that was in the San Juans. We whiffed on that though it was a really nice day out on the water. Perhaps some Tweeters would want to do the same for Smith Island. https://ebird.org/checklist/S89031721 Mary From birder at pottersaylor.com Thu May 27 10:00:59 2021 From: birder at pottersaylor.com (Mary Saylor) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] White Wagtail continued yesterday on San Juan Message-ID: <0B8EB8A0-5D2E-4E8A-96F7-D0C19D157B9F@pottersaylor.com> I see that the White Wagtail was seen yesterday in San Juan County Park by our very own Maxine Reid. https://ebird.org/checklist/S89071442 I know listservs are very old-school but I sure appreciate the type of exchange we?re able to have here. We can?t chat with each other or even (usually) contact each other through eBird. And I appreciate reading folks? trip reports, successful or not. Mary Saylor Issaquah From janine at northbeachlandscapes.com Thu May 27 11:17:09 2021 From: janine at northbeachlandscapes.com (janine@northbeachlandscapes.com) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] White Wagtail continued yesterday on San Juan In-Reply-To: <0B8EB8A0-5D2E-4E8A-96F7-D0C19D157B9F@pottersaylor.com> References: <0B8EB8A0-5D2E-4E8A-96F7-D0C19D157B9F@pottersaylor.com> Message-ID: <013f01d75324$826e6540$874b2fc0$@northbeachlandscapes.com> Ditto! Janine Anderson Port Townsend, WA janine@northbeachlandscapes.com -----Original Message----- From: Tweeters On Behalf Of Mary Saylor Sent: May 27, 2021 10:01 AM To: tweeters (E-mail) Subject: [Tweeters] White Wagtail continued yesterday on San Juan I see that the White Wagtail was seen yesterday in San Juan County Park by our very own Maxine Reid. https://ebird.org/checklist/S89071442 I know listservs are very old-school but I sure appreciate the type of exchange we?re able to have here. We can?t chat with each other or even (usually) contact each other through eBird. And I appreciate reading folks? trip reports, successful or not. Mary Saylor Issaquah _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From g_g_allin at hotmail.com Thu May 27 11:18:03 2021 From: g_g_allin at hotmail.com (John Puschock) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] eBird alerts (was Little Stint in Snohomish Co.) Message-ID: I'm not writing to express an opinion about posting to Tweeters, subscribing to eBird alerts, etc. There's not one solution that will work for everybody. To quote the theme song to the television show Diff'rent Strokes, "Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum/What might be right for you, may not be right for some." I am writing to mention that in addition to eBird rare bird alerts, there's also needs alerts. If you have most of the expected species in the state or county you're interested in, the number of emails you get is pretty small. John Puschock Seattle, WA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birdmarymoor at gmail.com Thu May 27 12:12:54 2021 From: birdmarymoor at gmail.com (birdmarymoor@gmail.com) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Marymoor Park (Redmond, King Co.) 2021-05-27 Message-ID: Tweets ? We had a wet one today, with drizzle and rain for most of the morning. There was a bit of a let-up, and even some blue sky, after we finished the main loop. The dark overcast and rain meant there was little to look at for much of the walk. We could hear some birds, and indeed we had 7 species that were heard-only. Another couple of species were actually seen only by one or two of us, and there would have been at least 3 more heard-only species except for some looks at the Rowing Club. That said, it wasn?t a bad day. Highlights: a.. Wood Duck ? seven males, and a female with 7 ducklings, all at the Rowing Club pond b.. BLUE-WINGED TEAL ? a male and two females staying very hidden at the Rowing Club pond. First of Year (FOY), and this is by far the most likely week to see them each year c.. NORTHERN SHOVELER ? pair at the Rowing Club pond. Latest spring sighting ever d.. Eurasian Collared-Dove ? one flew east from the East Meadow (FOY) e.. LONG-BILLED DOWITCHER ? one flying at the lake before turning and flying down the slough while we were on the Lake Platform (FOY). Just our 6th time for dowitcher at the park, and our first spring sighting f.. Caspian Tern ? one on the lake g.. Barn Owl ? one flew by the Viewing Mound at 4:53 a.m. h.. WILLOW FLYCATCHER ? three heard, with one of those seen (FOY) i.. Bullock?s Oriole ? we saw one bright male chased off by an even brighter male, along slough trail in Dog Area j.. Lazuli Bunting ? probably 5 singing males! Misses today included Rock Pigeon, Green Heron, Downy Woodpecker, Steller?s Jay, and Western Tanager. For the day, 66 species. Adding four to the year list, we?re now at 141 for 2021. = Michael Hobbs = www.marymoor.org/birding.htm = BirdMarymoor@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevechampton at gmail.com Thu May 27 12:29:15 2021 From: stevechampton at gmail.com (Steve Hampton) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Horned Puffin on Smith Island-- and viewing RFI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F8CDFB9-2022-4701-BAA6-5F6280D5DF30@gmail.com> My understanding is that Alex is making his observations from Puget Sound Express boats out of Port Townsend, where he serves as a guide. These trips prioritize whales but some vessels seem to visit Smith Island several times each week. Recent observations from the Smith area also include Brown Booby and Sabine?s Gull. They?ve also seen Parasitic Jaeger deep in the Sound near Seattle. I had one fly past me at Pt Wilson, Port Townsend, the other day. There?s no telling what a ?sea watch? from a promontory might produce! Good birding, Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Mary Saylor wrote: > > ?So I?ll just share a couple of the notable rarities I?m seeing today on eBird through the Birder?s Dashboard.(http://birdingwashington.info/dashboard/wa/) Alex Patia photographed a Horned Puffin near Smith Island on Whidbey (Island County). Apparently this is also a nesting location for Tufted Puffin, and Alex saw those too. I don?t know how they were viewed, but I imagine it must have been by boat. Years ago I joined in when a number of birders rented a boat to chase another Horned Puffin that was in the San Juans. We whiffed on that though it was a really nice day out on the water. Perhaps some Tweeters would want to do the same for Smith Island. > > https://ebird.org/checklist/S89031721 > > Mary > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From hadleyj1725 at gmail.com Thu May 27 12:33:21 2021 From: hadleyj1725 at gmail.com (Jane Hadley) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Traveling to Seattle soon, looking for Black Swift tips Message-ID: <8749c8df-c3fd-db09-18f8-e83a817106f8@gmail.com> Jackie Bowman of Geneva, IL said she and her husband will be visiting the Seattle area in mid-June, staying in Redmond. A target bird for them will be Black Swifts. She asked for tips. I suggest checking the Birder's Dashboard for Washington and clicking on "Look for a species." Then look under Swift, Black. Up will pop red pins showing the locations where Black Swift has been seen in the last 14 days. If a species you're looking for is not shown in the drop-down list, then that means it has not been seen in the past 14 days. I just looked now (May 27) and there have been a fair number of sightings of Black Swift, including in the greater Seattle area. But the best spot currently looks to be the Dungeness Recreation Area on the Olympic Peninsula. The Birder's Dashboard for Washington is at: http://birdingwashington.info/dashboard/wa/? (desktop) or http://birdingwashington.info/dashboard/wa/md? (cell phone) Note: Birder's Dashboard shows eBird sightings for Washington, North America, and the World. Look at the Versions menu for links to the North America and world versions. Jane Hadley Seattle, WA From danmcdt at gmail.com Thu May 27 12:38:10 2021 From: danmcdt at gmail.com (Dan McDougall-Treacy) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Leque Island today Message-ID: Very low tide and fierce wind adds up to no shorebirds. My unStinting effort was rewarded only by wondering how those swallows were managing to catch insects. Dan McDougall-Treacy From garrettwhaynes at me.com Thu May 27 14:16:20 2021 From: garrettwhaynes at me.com (Garrett Haynes) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Tweeters versus eBird Message-ID: <5D4FE88F-1CB8-4BF9-93C3-375A3BA665A4@me.com> Hello Tweets, There are always a lot of comments about the use of tweeters versus eBird and asking people to post on both for those who don't use eBird and I would like to throw my own two cents into the ring. First off, full disclosure that I am 35 and have grown up fully in the digital age and used computers since I was a little kid. I use Tweeters, eBird, Facebook, and texts/calls from other birders to find out about rare bird alerts. If there was another good option for finding out about rare birds I would use that too. As a typical modern person I have multiple email accounts, social media, messaging apps, and get more emails, calls, texts, DM's, etc. a day than I would like, as it seems like most people do. I admit it may be a little harder for me to sympathize/empathize with those who are not as comfortable with technology and digital overload as I am, since I have been immersed in it from a younger age than some, but I am trying. Now, on to my thoughts on Tweeters and eBird Let's start with Tweeters. From my understanding people can sign up for a daily digest or they can get each post sent to them individually (I only get the daily digest, so correct me if I'm wrong). This means that a Tweeters subscriber is either getting 1 email a day or 5-20 emails a day from Tweeters depending on the day. There is a trade off. If you don't like a lot of emails and sign up for the daily digest your inbox is much smaller but you may not find out about a rare sighting until the end of the day. If you sign up to get every post separately, you will have a lot more emails but can see a post much sooner and possibly get to a bird that same day before it's gone. This is up to personal preference and choice and weighing the trade off for yourself. Now about eBird. People seem to post about eBird alerts like they are somehow different than Tweeters and that by getting an eBird account you will suddenly be bombarded with a million more emails or by signing up you will be forced to become one of those dreaded county listers, haha. However, signing up for eBird alerts is no different than signing up for Tweeters. If with your digital skill level you were capable of signing up for Tweeters you are capable of signing up for eBird. Once signed up there is no obligation to maintain your lists on eBird, become a county lister, or any other such thing. You can choose what alerts you want to receive, either statewide or by county. You can choose to receive a single daily digest or get an hourly email alert, just like Tweeters. If you want fewer emails then sign up for the single daily alert. If you want to be notified about everything as soon as possible, then get the hourly, whatever floats your boat. I actually think getting an eBird alert is better because it automatically includes a link in the email alert to a Map location of where they saw the bird (at least the general location if not exactly) and you can see the posters entire checklist of other birds they saw as well, where this isn't the case with a Tweeters post. IMHO there shouldn't be any need for disparaging about bird sightings that were or were not posted to Tweeters as well as eBird as I believe all of us on here are capable of signing up for both, as I have explained above. I do agree that it certainly doesn't hurt anything to post to both as there will still always be people who will never sign up for eBird, or maybe a subscriber is signed up for eBird but not subscribed to alerts for the location where the bird was at, or the person who saw the bird is signed up for eBird but doesn't input lists and only posts their sighting to Tweeters, so there is some variation in personal account usage, and so there are some advantages to posting to both. I admit I am much more likely to post on eBird only, although I don't fault people who only post to Tweeters only and not eBird. That's why I utilize alerts from both. If you are unsure of how to start an eBird account I am happy to walk you through it. You can set it up and then you don't even ever have to login to it again if you don't want, the alerts will just show up in your email like Tweeters on their own without any further obligation. Email me if you want help with this or have any other questions. Thanks for reading my long winded addition to this discussion! Garrett Haynes Auburn, WA Sent from my iPhone From dougsantoni at gmail.com Thu May 27 14:40:23 2021 From: dougsantoni at gmail.com (Doug Santoni) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Tweeters versus eBird In-Reply-To: <5D4FE88F-1CB8-4BF9-93C3-375A3BA665A4@me.com> References: <5D4FE88F-1CB8-4BF9-93C3-375A3BA665A4@me.com> Message-ID: I am not a ?digital native,? but I have learned to use Tweeters and the basic functionality of eBird. A couple of years ago, I was not a subscriber to Tweeters. I learned through a very painful experience when I missed the Ross?s Gull (that got eaten by an eagle) not far from my house near Foster Island, that eBird postings do not go live immediately. Stated differently, I might have seen the rare gull if I had been on Tweeters, but I missed it because the posting on eBird was slightly delayed. After that incident, I called the Cornell Lab of Ornithology (which I support actively!), and they offered a somewhat complex technical explanation, but the lag is a system feature. Tweeters, I believe, is closer to a real time posting. So in the vein of ?to everything a purpose,? I believe that Tweeters is better when it comes to timely information when it really counts! Plus, I like the color commentary and the report of misses as well as successful cases that are provided on Tweeters. I hope this is helpful. Doug Santoni Seattle Ph 305-962-4226 DougSantoni@gmail.com > On May 27, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Garrett Haynes wrote: > > ?Hello Tweets, > > There are always a lot of comments about the use of tweeters versus eBird and asking people to post on both for those who don't use eBird and I would like to throw my own two cents into the ring. > > First off, full disclosure that I am 35 and have grown up fully in the digital age and used computers since I was a little kid. I use Tweeters, eBird, Facebook, and texts/calls from other birders to find out about rare bird alerts. If there was another good option for finding out about rare birds I would use that too. As a typical modern person I have multiple email accounts, social media, messaging apps, and get more emails, calls, texts, DM's, etc. a day than I would like, as it seems like most people do. I admit it may be a little harder for me to sympathize/empathize with those who are not as comfortable with technology and digital overload as I am, since I have been immersed in it from a younger age than some, but I am trying. Now, on to my thoughts on Tweeters and eBird > > Let's start with Tweeters. From my understanding people can sign up for a daily digest or they can get each post sent to them individually (I only get the daily digest, so correct me if I'm wrong). This means that a Tweeters subscriber is either getting 1 email a day or 5-20 emails a day from Tweeters depending on the day. There is a trade off. If you don't like a lot of emails and sign up for the daily digest your inbox is much smaller but you may not find out about a rare sighting until the end of the day. If you sign up to get every post separately, you will have a lot more emails but can see a post much sooner and possibly get to a bird that same day before it's gone. This is up to personal preference and choice and weighing the trade off for yourself. > > Now about eBird. People seem to post about eBird alerts like they are somehow different than Tweeters and that by getting an eBird account you will suddenly be bombarded with a million more emails or by signing up you will be forced to become one of those dreaded county listers, haha. However, signing up for eBird alerts is no different than signing up for Tweeters. If with your digital skill level you were capable of signing up for Tweeters you are capable of signing up for eBird. Once signed up there is no obligation to maintain your lists on eBird, become a county lister, or any other such thing. You can choose what alerts you want to receive, either statewide or by county. You can choose to receive a single daily digest or get an hourly email alert, just like Tweeters. If you want fewer emails then sign up for the single daily alert. If you want to be notified about everything as soon as possible, then get the hourly, whatever floats your boat. I actually think getting a! > n eBird alert is better because it automatically includes a link in the email alert to a Map location of where they saw the bird (at least the general location if not exactly) and you can see the posters entire checklist of other birds they saw as well, where this isn't the case with a Tweeters post. > > IMHO there shouldn't be any need for disparaging about bird sightings that were or were not posted to Tweeters as well as eBird as I believe all of us on here are capable of signing up for both, as I have explained above. I do agree that it certainly doesn't hurt anything to post to both as there will still always be people who will never sign up for eBird, or maybe a subscriber is signed up for eBird but not subscribed to alerts for the location where the bird was at, or the person who saw the bird is signed up for eBird but doesn't input lists and only posts their sighting to Tweeters, so there is some variation in personal account usage, and so there are some advantages to posting to both. I admit I am much more likely to post on eBird only, although I don't fault people who only post to Tweeters only and not eBird. That's why I utilize alerts from both. > > If you are unsure of how to start an eBird account I am happy to walk you through it. You can set it up and then you don't even ever have to login to it again if you don't want, the alerts will just show up in your email like Tweeters on their own without any further obligation. > > Email me if you want help with this or have any other questions. Thanks for reading my long winded addition to this discussion! > > Garrett Haynes > Auburn, WA > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From gnudle at icloud.com Thu May 27 15:03:54 2021 From: gnudle at icloud.com (Marcia Ian) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Robins chasing crows Message-ID: Oh yes, the robins are protecting their nests. I saw this a few weeks back, in trees behind my condo, when two robins raised a ruckus, and I spotted a crow investigating nearby branches, but the robins finally chased it off. Subsequently, a robin built her nest atop the light fixture on my upper deck, right next to my sliding glass door. At first a crow or two hung around, seeming to strategize a nest invasion. I believe I?ve persuaded them to go elsewhere. She is sitting on four eggs. Marcia Ian Bellingham > I've observed this in my garden at least 6 times in the past 2 weeks. A > crow was at a bird feeder or a bird bath, when a robin flew in and chased > the crow away. Wow! I've never observed this behavior in the past. I > suspect that the crows are threatening to nesting robins, or what ???? > Comments appreciated. > > -- > Carolyn Finder Heberlein / Nana, Fremont Neighborhood, Seattle, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have to get out onto one of > those Protection Island day trips. > > And yes, a seawatch from the appropriate spot can be very worthwhile. I?ve > been amazed by all the birds that the early-morning Discovery Park birders > have turned up lately? everything from pelicans to jaegers. > > Mary Saylor > Issaquah > > > > On May 27, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Steve Hampton > wrote: > > > > My understanding is that Alex is making his observations from Puget > Sound Express boats out of Port Townsend, where he serves as a guide. These > trips prioritize whales but some vessels seem to visit Smith Island several > times each week. Recent observations from the Smith area also include Brown > Booby and Sabine?s Gull. > > > > They?ve also seen Parasitic Jaeger deep in the Sound near Seattle. I had > one fly past me at Pt Wilson, Port Townsend, the other day. There?s no > telling what a ?sea watch? from a promontory might produce! > > > > Good birding, > > > > > > > > -- Steve Hampton Port Townsend, WA *Qatay, S'Klallam territory* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From earthman1950 at whidbey.com Thu May 27 15:41:42 2021 From: earthman1950 at whidbey.com (George Heleker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Tweeters versus eBird In-Reply-To: References: <5D4FE88F-1CB8-4BF9-93C3-375A3BA665A4@me.com> Message-ID: <95f4829cbc028c3ec95501eae8fe98f7@whidbey.com> On 2021-05-27 15:40, George Heleker wrote: > I am a retired individual with few tech. skills but it was easy > getting going with eBird and Tweeters. And believe it or not, there > are actually some experienced birders out there who love birds and > birding that aren't interested in chasing rarities. Some of those > folks, like myself, like both eBird and Tweeters. I like Tweeters > because there are a lot of very knowledgeable folks and good writers > that write about birds which serves to increase my interest and > knowledge. I love eBird because I'm interested in what birds people > are finding out there, especially locally, and for the great record > keeping that eBird allows for my own sightings. eBird is also a great > tool for advancing the study of birds. > > "A million ways to bird". > > George Heleker > Whidbey Island, WA > > > > On 2021-05-27 14:40, Doug Santoni wrote: >> I am not a ?digital native,? but I have learned to use Tweeters and >> the basic functionality of eBird. A couple of years ago, I was not a >> subscriber to Tweeters. I learned through a very painful experience >> when I missed the Ross?s Gull (that got eaten by an eagle) not far >> from my house near Foster Island, that eBird postings do not go live >> immediately. Stated differently, I might have seen the rare gull if I >> had been on Tweeters, but I missed it because the posting on eBird was >> slightly delayed. After that incident, I called the Cornell Lab of >> Ornithology (which I support actively!), and they offered a somewhat >> complex technical explanation, but the lag is a system feature. >> Tweeters, I believe, is closer to a real time posting. So in the vein >> of ?to everything a purpose,? I believe that Tweeters is better when >> it comes to timely information when it really counts! Plus, I like >> the color commentary and the report of misses as well as successful >> cases that are provided on Tweeters. I hope this is helpful. >> >> Doug Santoni >> Seattle >> Ph 305-962-4226 >> DougSantoni@gmail.com >> >>> On May 27, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Garrett Haynes >>> wrote: >>> >>> ?Hello Tweets, >>> >>> There are always a lot of comments about the use of tweeters versus >>> eBird and asking people to post on both for those who don't use eBird >>> and I would like to throw my own two cents into the ring. >>> >>> First off, full disclosure that I am 35 and have grown up fully in >>> the digital age and used computers since I was a little kid. I use >>> Tweeters, eBird, Facebook, and texts/calls from other birders to find >>> out about rare bird alerts. If there was another good option for >>> finding out about rare birds I would use that too. As a typical >>> modern person I have multiple email accounts, social media, messaging >>> apps, and get more emails, calls, texts, DM's, etc. a day than I >>> would like, as it seems like most people do. I admit it may be a >>> little harder for me to sympathize/empathize with those who are not >>> as comfortable with technology and digital overload as I am, since I >>> have been immersed in it from a younger age than some, but I am >>> trying. Now, on to my thoughts on Tweeters and eBird >>> >>> Let's start with Tweeters. From my understanding people can sign up >>> for a daily digest or they can get each post sent to them >>> individually (I only get the daily digest, so correct me if I'm >>> wrong). This means that a Tweeters subscriber is either getting 1 >>> email a day or 5-20 emails a day from Tweeters depending on the day. >>> There is a trade off. If you don't like a lot of emails and sign up >>> for the daily digest your inbox is much smaller but you may not find >>> out about a rare sighting until the end of the day. If you sign up to >>> get every post separately, you will have a lot more emails but can >>> see a post much sooner and possibly get to a bird that same day >>> before it's gone. This is up to personal preference and choice and >>> weighing the trade off for yourself. >>> >>> Now about eBird. People seem to post about eBird alerts like they are >>> somehow different than Tweeters and that by getting an eBird account >>> you will suddenly be bombarded with a million more emails or by >>> signing up you will be forced to become one of those dreaded county >>> listers, haha. However, signing up for eBird alerts is no different >>> than signing up for Tweeters. If with your digital skill level you >>> were capable of signing up for Tweeters you are capable of signing up >>> for eBird. Once signed up there is no obligation to maintain your >>> lists on eBird, become a county lister, or any other such thing. You >>> can choose what alerts you want to receive, either statewide or by >>> county. You can choose to receive a single daily digest or get an >>> hourly email alert, just like Tweeters. If you want fewer emails then >>> sign up for the single daily alert. If you want to be notified about >>> everything as soon as possible, then get the hourly, whatever floats >>> your boat. I actually think getting a! >>> n eBird alert is better because it automatically includes a link in >>> the email alert to a Map location of where they saw the bird (at >>> least the general location if not exactly) and you can see the >>> posters entire checklist of other birds they saw as well, where this >>> isn't the case with a Tweeters post. >>> >>> IMHO there shouldn't be any need for disparaging about bird sightings >>> that were or were not posted to Tweeters as well as eBird as I >>> believe all of us on here are capable of signing up for both, as I >>> have explained above. I do agree that it certainly doesn't hurt >>> anything to post to both as there will still always be people who >>> will never sign up for eBird, or maybe a subscriber is signed up for >>> eBird but not subscribed to alerts for the location where the bird >>> was at, or the person who saw the bird is signed up for eBird but >>> doesn't input lists and only posts their sighting to Tweeters, so >>> there is some variation in personal account usage, and so there are >>> some advantages to posting to both. I admit I am much more likely to >>> post on eBird only, although I don't fault people who only post to >>> Tweeters only and not eBird. That's why I utilize alerts from both. >>> >>> If you are unsure of how to start an eBird account I am happy to walk >>> you through it. You can set it up and then you don't even ever have >>> to login to it again if you don't want, the alerts will just show up >>> in your email like Tweeters on their own without any further >>> obligation. >>> >>> Email me if you want help with this or have any other questions. >>> Thanks for reading my long winded addition to this discussion! >>> >>> Garrett Haynes >>> Auburn, WA >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From avnacrs4birds at outlook.com Thu May 27 16:46:44 2021 From: avnacrs4birds at outlook.com (Denis DeSilvis) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Tweeters versus eBird In-Reply-To: <95f4829cbc028c3ec95501eae8fe98f7@whidbey.com> References: <5D4FE88F-1CB8-4BF9-93C3-375A3BA665A4@me.com> , <95f4829cbc028c3ec95501eae8fe98f7@whidbey.com> Message-ID: I absolutely agree! Although I usually stay away from these types of discussions, I truly believe that old school and new school work for me. May all your birds be identified, Denis Avian Acres ? Roy, WA ________________________________ From: Tweeters on behalf of George Heleker Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 3:41:42 PM To: tweeters@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Tweeters versus eBird On 2021-05-27 15:40, George Heleker wrote: > I am a retired individual with few tech. skills but it was easy > getting going with eBird and Tweeters. And believe it or not, there > are actually some experienced birders out there who love birds and > birding that aren't interested in chasing rarities. Some of those > folks, like myself, like both eBird and Tweeters. I like Tweeters > because there are a lot of very knowledgeable folks and good writers > that write about birds which serves to increase my interest and > knowledge. I love eBird because I'm interested in what birds people > are finding out there, especially locally, and for the great record > keeping that eBird allows for my own sightings. eBird is also a great > tool for advancing the study of birds. > > "A million ways to bird". > > George Heleker > Whidbey Island, WA > > > > On 2021-05-27 14:40, Doug Santoni wrote: >> I am not a ?digital native,? but I have learned to use Tweeters and >> the basic functionality of eBird. A couple of years ago, I was not a >> subscriber to Tweeters. I learned through a very painful experience >> when I missed the Ross?s Gull (that got eaten by an eagle) not far >> from my house near Foster Island, that eBird postings do not go live >> immediately. Stated differently, I might have seen the rare gull if I >> had been on Tweeters, but I missed it because the posting on eBird was >> slightly delayed. After that incident, I called the Cornell Lab of >> Ornithology (which I support actively!), and they offered a somewhat >> complex technical explanation, but the lag is a system feature. >> Tweeters, I believe, is closer to a real time posting. So in the vein >> of ?to everything a purpose,? I believe that Tweeters is better when >> it comes to timely information when it really counts! Plus, I like >> the color commentary and the report of misses as well as successful >> cases that are provided on Tweeters. I hope this is helpful. >> >> Doug Santoni >> Seattle >> Ph 305-962-4226 >> DougSantoni@gmail.com >> >>> On May 27, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Garrett Haynes >>> wrote: >>> >>> ?Hello Tweets, >>> >>> There are always a lot of comments about the use of tweeters versus >>> eBird and asking people to post on both for those who don't use eBird >>> and I would like to throw my own two cents into the ring. >>> >>> First off, full disclosure that I am 35 and have grown up fully in >>> the digital age and used computers since I was a little kid. I use >>> Tweeters, eBird, Facebook, and texts/calls from other birders to find >>> out about rare bird alerts. If there was another good option for >>> finding out about rare birds I would use that too. As a typical >>> modern person I have multiple email accounts, social media, messaging >>> apps, and get more emails, calls, texts, DM's, etc. a day than I >>> would like, as it seems like most people do. I admit it may be a >>> little harder for me to sympathize/empathize with those who are not >>> as comfortable with technology and digital overload as I am, since I >>> have been immersed in it from a younger age than some, but I am >>> trying. Now, on to my thoughts on Tweeters and eBird >>> >>> Let's start with Tweeters. From my understanding people can sign up >>> for a daily digest or they can get each post sent to them >>> individually (I only get the daily digest, so correct me if I'm >>> wrong). This means that a Tweeters subscriber is either getting 1 >>> email a day or 5-20 emails a day from Tweeters depending on the day. >>> There is a trade off. If you don't like a lot of emails and sign up >>> for the daily digest your inbox is much smaller but you may not find >>> out about a rare sighting until the end of the day. If you sign up to >>> get every post separately, you will have a lot more emails but can >>> see a post much sooner and possibly get to a bird that same day >>> before it's gone. This is up to personal preference and choice and >>> weighing the trade off for yourself. >>> >>> Now about eBird. People seem to post about eBird alerts like they are >>> somehow different than Tweeters and that by getting an eBird account >>> you will suddenly be bombarded with a million more emails or by >>> signing up you will be forced to become one of those dreaded county >>> listers, haha. However, signing up for eBird alerts is no different >>> than signing up for Tweeters. If with your digital skill level you >>> were capable of signing up for Tweeters you are capable of signing up >>> for eBird. Once signed up there is no obligation to maintain your >>> lists on eBird, become a county lister, or any other such thing. You >>> can choose what alerts you want to receive, either statewide or by >>> county. You can choose to receive a single daily digest or get an >>> hourly email alert, just like Tweeters. If you want fewer emails then >>> sign up for the single daily alert. If you want to be notified about >>> everything as soon as possible, then get the hourly, whatever floats >>> your boat. I actually think getting a! >>> n eBird alert is better because it automatically includes a link in >>> the email alert to a Map location of where they saw the bird (at >>> least the general location if not exactly) and you can see the >>> posters entire checklist of other birds they saw as well, where this >>> isn't the case with a Tweeters post. >>> >>> IMHO there shouldn't be any need for disparaging about bird sightings >>> that were or were not posted to Tweeters as well as eBird as I >>> believe all of us on here are capable of signing up for both, as I >>> have explained above. I do agree that it certainly doesn't hurt >>> anything to post to both as there will still always be people who >>> will never sign up for eBird, or maybe a subscriber is signed up for >>> eBird but not subscribed to alerts for the location where the bird >>> was at, or the person who saw the bird is signed up for eBird but >>> doesn't input lists and only posts their sighting to Tweeters, so >>> there is some variation in personal account usage, and so there are >>> some advantages to posting to both. I admit I am much more likely to >>> post on eBird only, although I don't fault people who only post to >>> Tweeters only and not eBird. That's why I utilize alerts from both. >>> >>> If you are unsure of how to start an eBird account I am happy to walk >>> you through it. You can set it up and then you don't even ever have >>> to login to it again if you don't want, the alerts will just show up >>> in your email like Tweeters on their own without any further >>> obligation. >>> >>> Email me if you want help with this or have any other questions. >>> Thanks for reading my long winded addition to this discussion! >>> >>> Garrett Haynes >>> Auburn, WA >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From 1northraven at gmail.com Thu May 27 18:09:37 2021 From: 1northraven at gmail.com (J Christian Kessler) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Tweeters versus eBird In-Reply-To: References: <5D4FE88F-1CB8-4BF9-93C3-375A3BA665A4@me.com> Message-ID: I agree. Tweeters and eBird are designed to serve different purposes, and it's best to post on both for the unusual or infrequent bird. Tweeters gets the word out immediately to the wide audience, while the eBird report may have to be reviewed before it goes up, and in any case, one may have to search eBird unless one has the alerts set up to capture that bird. But with eBird the bird is now recorded for science. Chris Lessler, Seattle On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 2:41 PM Doug Santoni wrote: > I am not a ?digital native,? but I have learned to use Tweeters and the > basic functionality of eBird. A couple of years ago, I was not a subscriber > to Tweeters. I learned through a very painful experience when I missed the > Ross?s Gull (that got eaten by an eagle) not far from my house near Foster > Island, that eBird postings do not go live immediately. Stated > differently, I might have seen the rare gull if I had been on Tweeters, but > I missed it because the posting on eBird was slightly delayed. After that > incident, I called the Cornell Lab of Ornithology (which I support > actively!), and they offered a somewhat complex technical explanation, but > the lag is a system feature. Tweeters, I believe, is closer to a real time > posting. So in the vein of ?to everything a purpose,? I believe that > Tweeters is better when it comes to timely information when it really > counts! Plus, I like the color commentary and the report of misses as well > as successful cases that are provided on Tweeters. I hope this is helpful. > > Doug Santoni > Seattle > Ph 305-962-4226 > DougSantoni@gmail.com > > > On May 27, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Garrett Haynes > wrote: > > > > ?Hello Tweets, > > > > There are always a lot of comments about the use of tweeters versus > eBird and asking people to post on both for those who don't use eBird and I > would like to throw my own two cents into the ring. > > > > First off, full disclosure that I am 35 and have grown up fully in the > digital age and used computers since I was a little kid. I use Tweeters, > eBird, Facebook, and texts/calls from other birders to find out about rare > bird alerts. If there was another good option for finding out about rare > birds I would use that too. As a typical modern person I have multiple > email accounts, social media, messaging apps, and get more emails, calls, > texts, DM's, etc. a day than I would like, as it seems like most people do. > I admit it may be a little harder for me to sympathize/empathize with those > who are not as comfortable with technology and digital overload as I am, > since I have been immersed in it from a younger age than some, but I am > trying. Now, on to my thoughts on Tweeters and eBird > > > > Let's start with Tweeters. From my understanding people can sign up for > a daily digest or they can get each post sent to them individually (I only > get the daily digest, so correct me if I'm wrong). This means that a > Tweeters subscriber is either getting 1 email a day or 5-20 emails a day > from Tweeters depending on the day. There is a trade off. If you don't like > a lot of emails and sign up for the daily digest your inbox is much smaller > but you may not find out about a rare sighting until the end of the day. If > you sign up to get every post separately, you will have a lot more emails > but can see a post much sooner and possibly get to a bird that same day > before it's gone. This is up to personal preference and choice and weighing > the trade off for yourself. > > > > Now about eBird. People seem to post about eBird alerts like they are > somehow different than Tweeters and that by getting an eBird account you > will suddenly be bombarded with a million more emails or by signing up you > will be forced to become one of those dreaded county listers, haha. > However, signing up for eBird alerts is no different than signing up for > Tweeters. If with your digital skill level you were capable of signing up > for Tweeters you are capable of signing up for eBird. Once signed up there > is no obligation to maintain your lists on eBird, become a county lister, > or any other such thing. You can choose what alerts you want to receive, > either statewide or by county. You can choose to receive a single daily > digest or get an hourly email alert, just like Tweeters. If you want fewer > emails then sign up for the single daily alert. If you want to be notified > about everything as soon as possible, then get the hourly, whatever floats > your boat. I actually think getting a! > > n eBird alert is better because it automatically includes a link in the > email alert to a Map location of where they saw the bird (at least the > general location if not exactly) and you can see the posters entire > checklist of other birds they saw as well, where this isn't the case with a > Tweeters post. > > > > IMHO there shouldn't be any need for disparaging about bird sightings > that were or were not posted to Tweeters as well as eBird as I believe all > of us on here are capable of signing up for both, as I have explained > above. I do agree that it certainly doesn't hurt anything to post to both > as there will still always be people who will never sign up for eBird, or > maybe a subscriber is signed up for eBird but not subscribed to alerts for > the location where the bird was at, or the person who saw the bird is > signed up for eBird but doesn't input lists and only posts their sighting > to Tweeters, so there is some variation in personal account usage, and so > there are some advantages to posting to both. I admit I am much more > likely to post on eBird only, although I don't fault people who only post > to Tweeters only and not eBird. That's why I utilize alerts from both. > > > > If you are unsure of how to start an eBird account I am happy to walk > you through it. You can set it up and then you don't even ever have to > login to it again if you don't want, the alerts will just show up in your > email like Tweeters on their own without any further obligation. > > > > Email me if you want help with this or have any other questions. Thanks > for reading my long winded addition to this discussion! > > > > Garrett Haynes > > Auburn, WA > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > Tweeters mailing list > > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -- "moderation in everything, including moderation" Rustin Thompson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GPS coordinates of the birds: (47.3287059, -122.2425566) Approximate address: 2400 M St NW, Auburn WA Raphael Fennimore Normandy Park, WA From danerika at gmail.com Fri May 28 06:36:48 2021 From: danerika at gmail.com (dan&erika) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] =?utf-8?q?Late_Lincoln=E2=80=99s_Sparrow?= Message-ID: Hey Tweets--Just a note to report my banding a Lincoln's Sparrow in Olympia on 26 May 2021. Apparently this is a late spring date for lowlands east of the Cascades. I was glad I photographed the bird after eBird alerted me that it was rare this late: https://dantallmansbirdblog.blogspot.com/2021/05/lincolns-sparrow.html dan -- Dan or Erika Tallman Olympia, Washington danerika@gmail.com http://dantallmansbirdblog.blogspot.com ".... the best shod travel with wet feet...Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes ....??H. D. Thoreau -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4568DC64-23E9-4428-8062-06819A6A4877@mac.com> Try the Audubon Bird Loop at Maryloor Park. The platform along the boardwalk has four gourds with nesting purple martins. Zora Dermer Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2021, at 7:44 PM, Hans-Joachim Feddern wrote: > > ? > I have been unsuccessful so far to find any Purple Martins this spring. I have tried at 11th Street Bridge in NE Tacoma and at Ruston Way without luck. Has anybody seen any and at what location? > > Good Birding! > > Hans > > -- > Hans Feddern > Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA > thefedderns@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They were pulling dead twigs from a nearby tree to fill nest. Neighboring Purple Martins were stealing the nesting material from each other. Pretty hilarious. > On May 28, 2021, at 7:43 PM, Hans-Joachim Feddern wrote: > > ? > I have been unsuccessful so far to find any Purple Martins this spring. I have tried at 11th Street Bridge in NE Tacoma and at Ruston Way without luck. Has anybody seen any and at what location? > > Good Birding! > > Hans > > -- > Hans Feddern > Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA > thefedderns@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peggy_busby at yahoo.com Fri May 28 20:43:23 2021 From: peggy_busby at yahoo.com (Peggy Mundy) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Purple Martins? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <906060274.1439378.1622259803503@mail.yahoo.com> I saw 6 at Semiahmoo on May 15, at the nesting gourds on the Plover Ferry Dock. Peggy MundyBothell, WApeggy_busbyATyahoo.com On Friday, May 28, 2021, 07:43:40 p.m. PDT, Hans-Joachim Feddern wrote: I have been unsuccessful so far to find any Purple Martins this spring. I have tried at 11th Street Bridge in NE Tacoma and at Ruston Way without luck. Has anybody seen any and at what location? Good Birding! Hans -- Hans Feddern Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA thefedderns@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tweeters mailing list Tweeters@u.washington.edu http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com Fri May 28 20:53:44 2021 From: bcholtcodevlin at gmail.com (Beverly Choltco-Devlin) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Purple Martins? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They are nesting at the lake portion of the Audubon bird loop at Marymoor Park at the north end of Lake Sammamish. Beverly On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 7:43 PM Hans-Joachim Feddern wrote: > I have been unsuccessful so far to find any Purple Martins this spring. I > have tried at 11th Street Bridge in NE Tacoma and at Ruston Way without > luck. Has anybody seen any and at what location? > > Good Birding! > > Hans > > -- > *Hans Feddern* > Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA > thefedderns@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcallisters4 at comcast.net Fri May 28 21:19:01 2021 From: mcallisters4 at comcast.net (mcallisters4@comcast.net) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Purple Martins? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <022201d75441$c1807e30$44817a90$@comcast.net> Purple Martins were present at both Scatter Creek Wildlife Area and West Rocky Prairie wildlife area when I visited recently. I suspect they are nesting at both locations, in natural cavities. I know this information isn't the least bit useful to someone wanting to get up close to the birds. Still, I thought I'd share because I think it's significant that martins seem to be steadily increasing in more natural habitats away from large water bodies like Puget Sound. The species seems to be increasingly independent of nest structures put out by people. Kelly McAllister Olympia From rwlawson5593 at outlook.com Fri May 28 21:47:45 2021 From: rwlawson5593 at outlook.com (Rachel Lawson) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Thinking about the Little Stint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joseph and I went to see the Little Stint earlier this week. I was reminded of something someone said when Kristin Stewart and I went down to Oregon in 2005 to see a Lesser Sandplover. When we arrived at the site, we asked a departing birder whether the bird would be hard to pick out from the flock, and he said, "When you see it, it will stand out like a bouquet of roses!" Rachel Lawson Seattle rwlawson@q.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maxcamf4 at gmail.com Fri May 28 22:04:41 2021 From: maxcamf4 at gmail.com (Max Warner) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Purple Martins Message-ID: I suggest looking at nest box sites on pilings just east of Harbor lights Restaurant in Ruston Way in Tacoma, and also on pilings at the old ferry dock at Titlow Park. You may see some starlings invading the colonies, and also house sparrows. 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Two Red-necked Phalaropes and a late Long-Billed Dowitcher were at Little Twin Lake this morning. Seems like a good year for RNPH. Good birding! Peter Wimberger Tacoma, WA From phwimberger at pugetsound.edu Sat May 29 13:51:58 2021 From: phwimberger at pugetsound.edu (Peter H Wimberger) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Correction... Message-ID: After looking at distant photos of what I thought and posted were Red-necked Phalaropes at Little Twin Lake in the Methow, they appear to be Wilson's Phalaropes. I guess that is another reason I don't post much to Tweeters... Any phalarope in the Methow is a good phalarope ;-) Peter "normalizing mistakes" Wimberger Tacoma, WA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5e0711b5b28a74205f8f148588758bbd@birdsbydave.com> Also they are using the boxes on poles at the RV campground at Point Hudson, Port Townsend despite the crowd of RVs __________ On 2021-05-28 20:53, Beverly Choltco-Devlin wrote: > They are nesting at the lake portion of the Audubon bird loop at > Marymoor Park at the north end of Lake Sammamish. > > Beverly > > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 7:43 PM Hans-Joachim Feddern > wrote: > >> I have been unsuccessful so far to find any Purple Martins this >> spring. I have tried at 11th Street Bridge in NE Tacoma and at >> Ruston Way without luck. Has anybody seen any and at what location? >> >> Good Birding! >> >> Hans >> >> -- >> Hans Feddern >> Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA >> thefedderns@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From catherinejoymusic at gmail.com Sat May 29 16:36:08 2021 From: catherinejoymusic at gmail.com (Catherine Joy) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Red-necked and Wilson's Phalaropes at M St - now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not that familiar with the area. I've been looking on google maps and on ebird for any ponds along M Street and I can't find anything. Is there a more specific way I can find that location? Thanks! Catherine On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 2:10 PM Mark Ahlness wrote: > Just got a call from Marv Breece, asking me to post this: > > As of 2 PM Saturday, he's looking at both Wilson's and Red-necked > Phalaropes in the main pond at M St in Auburn. So far, Marv's the only > birder there! > > Thanks Marv! > > Mark Ahlness > mahlness@gmail.com > Seattle, WA > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt.dufort at gmail.com Sat May 29 16:57:07 2021 From: matt.dufort at gmail.com (Matt Dufort) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Red-necked and Wilson's Phalaropes at M St - now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Catherine et al., The M Street marsh is between Hwy 167 and the Emerald Downs racetrack. It's more of a seasonally flooded field than a pond, so on google maps it doesn't look like much. The eBird hotspot, with map, is here: https://ebird.org/hotspot/L257950. I hope that's helpful. It's a great little chunk of habitat in a region that used to have far more extensive wetlands. Good birding, Matt Dufort On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:37 PM Catherine Joy wrote: > I'm not that familiar with the area. I've been looking on google maps and > on ebird for any ponds along M Street and I can't find anything. Is there a > more specific way I can find that location? > > Thanks! > > Catherine > > On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 2:10 PM Mark Ahlness wrote: > >> Just got a call from Marv Breece, asking me to post this: >> >> As of 2 PM Saturday, he's looking at both Wilson's and Red-necked >> Phalaropes in the main pond at M St in Auburn. So far, Marv's the only >> birder there! >> >> Thanks Marv! >> >> Mark Ahlness >> mahlness@gmail.com >> Seattle, WA >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From catherinejoymusic at gmail.com Sat May 29 17:01:18 2021 From: catherinejoymusic at gmail.com (Catherine Joy) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Red-necked and Wilson's Phalaropes at M St - now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great, thanks! Hope I get the chance to head down. I've never seen any species of phalarope. Those would both be lifers for me! Catherine On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:57 PM Matt Dufort wrote: > Catherine et al., > > The M Street marsh is between Hwy 167 and the Emerald Downs racetrack. > It's more of a seasonally flooded field than a pond, so on google maps it > doesn't look like much. The eBird hotspot, with map, is here: > https://ebird.org/hotspot/L257950. > > I hope that's helpful. It's a great little chunk of habitat in a region > that used to have far more extensive wetlands. > > Good birding, > Matt Dufort > > On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:37 PM Catherine Joy > wrote: > >> I'm not that familiar with the area. I've been looking on google maps and >> on ebird for any ponds along M Street and I can't find anything. Is there a >> more specific way I can find that location? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Catherine >> >> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 2:10 PM Mark Ahlness wrote: >> >>> Just got a call from Marv Breece, asking me to post this: >>> >>> As of 2 PM Saturday, he's looking at both Wilson's and Red-necked >>> Phalaropes in the main pond at M St in Auburn. So far, Marv's the only >>> birder there! >>> >>> Thanks Marv! >>> >>> Mark Ahlness >>> mahlness@gmail.com >>> Seattle, WA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon.sieker at gmail.com Sat May 29 17:16:14 2021 From: jon.sieker at gmail.com (Jon Sieker) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Red-necked and Wilson's Phalaropes at M St - now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes thanks for the great info. Would love to hear if they continue through the holiday weekend. On Sat, May 29, 2021, 5:01 PM Catherine Joy wrote: > Great, thanks! > > Hope I get the chance to head down. I've never seen any species of > phalarope. Those would both be lifers for me! > > Catherine > > On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:57 PM Matt Dufort wrote: > >> Catherine et al., >> >> The M Street marsh is between Hwy 167 and the Emerald Downs racetrack. >> It's more of a seasonally flooded field than a pond, so on google maps it >> doesn't look like much. The eBird hotspot, with map, is here: >> https://ebird.org/hotspot/L257950. >> >> I hope that's helpful. It's a great little chunk of habitat in a region >> that used to have far more extensive wetlands. >> >> Good birding, >> Matt Dufort >> >> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:37 PM Catherine Joy < >> catherinejoymusic@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm not that familiar with the area. I've been looking on google maps >>> and on ebird for any ponds along M Street and I can't find anything. Is >>> there a more specific way I can find that location? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Catherine >>> >>> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 2:10 PM Mark Ahlness wrote: >>> >>>> Just got a call from Marv Breece, asking me to post this: >>>> >>>> As of 2 PM Saturday, he's looking at both Wilson's and Red-necked >>>> Phalaropes in the main pond at M St in Auburn. So far, Marv's the only >>>> birder there! >>>> >>>> Thanks Marv! >>>> >>>> Mark Ahlness >>>> mahlness@gmail.com >>>> Seattle, WA >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tweeters mailing list >>>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>> >> _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Those would both be lifers for me! >> >> Catherine >> >> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:57 PM Matt Dufort >> wrote: >> >>> Catherine et al., >>> >>> The M Street marsh is between Hwy 167 and the Emerald Downs racetrack. >>> It's more of a seasonally flooded field than a pond, so on google maps it >>> doesn't look like much. The eBird hotspot, with map, is here: >>> https://ebird.org/hotspot/L257950. >>> >>> I hope that's helpful. It's a great little chunk of habitat in a region >>> that used to have far more extensive wetlands. >>> >>> Good birding, >>> Matt Dufort >>> >>> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:37 PM Catherine Joy < >>> catherinejoymusic@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not that familiar with the area. I've been looking on google maps >>>> and on ebird for any ponds along M Street and I can't find anything. Is >>>> there a more specific way I can find that location? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Catherine >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 2:10 PM Mark Ahlness >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just got a call from Marv Breece, asking me to post this: >>>>> >>>>> As of 2 PM Saturday, he's looking at both Wilson's and Red-necked >>>>> Phalaropes in the main pond at M St in Auburn. So far, Marv's the only >>>>> birder there! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Marv! >>>>> >>>>> Mark Ahlness >>>>> mahlness@gmail.com >>>>> Seattle, WA >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Tweeters mailing list >>>>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>>>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tweeters mailing list >>>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birder at pottersaylor.com Sat May 29 19:24:07 2021 From: birder at pottersaylor.com (Mary Saylor) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] American Redstart on Neal Rd. Message-ID: <8826B0F2-CE1D-4B16-9042-F6035401E437@pottersaylor.com> Todd (sorry don?t know his last name yet!) found a singing male American Redstart along Neal Rd. in Fall City today and I and several other birders were able to see it. The nearest house was #2506, it was in the woods across from that in some tall trees (alders?). Mary Saylor Issaquah From indiefan at gmail.com Sat May 29 19:26:24 2021 From: indiefan at gmail.com (Marke Hallowell) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Red-necked and Wilson's Phalaropes at M St - now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Both groups were still around as of 7:24. Agreed that it was nice to have both present to compare and contrast. Thanks for the notice! -Marke On Sat, May 29, 2021, 6:32 PM Beverly Choltco-Devlin < bcholtcodevlin@gmail.com> wrote: > I was just there at 6:10pm and the Red-necked phalaropes are still at the > M street Marsh. Sticking with the Wilson?s but flying as a group all over > the Marsh. The light is perfect for distinguishing them through binoculars > or scope. Thank you for the alert! A lifer for me. > > Beverly Choltco-Devlin > > On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 5:17 PM Jon Sieker wrote: > >> Yes thanks for the great info. Would love to hear if they continue >> through the holiday weekend. >> >> >> On Sat, May 29, 2021, 5:01 PM Catherine Joy >> wrote: >> >>> Great, thanks! >>> >>> Hope I get the chance to head down. I've never seen any species of >>> phalarope. Those would both be lifers for me! >>> >>> Catherine >>> >>> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:57 PM Matt Dufort >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Catherine et al., >>>> >>>> The M Street marsh is between Hwy 167 and the Emerald Downs racetrack. >>>> It's more of a seasonally flooded field than a pond, so on google maps it >>>> doesn't look like much. The eBird hotspot, with map, is here: >>>> https://ebird.org/hotspot/L257950. >>>> >>>> I hope that's helpful. It's a great little chunk of habitat in a >>>> region that used to have far more extensive wetlands. >>>> >>>> Good birding, >>>> Matt Dufort >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:37 PM Catherine Joy < >>>> catherinejoymusic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not that familiar with the area. I've been looking on google maps >>>>> and on ebird for any ponds along M Street and I can't find anything. Is >>>>> there a more specific way I can find that location? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Catherine >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 2:10 PM Mark Ahlness >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just got a call from Marv Breece, asking me to post this: >>>>>> >>>>>> As of 2 PM Saturday, he's looking at both Wilson's and Red-necked >>>>>> Phalaropes in the main pond at M St in Auburn. So far, Marv's the only >>>>>> birder there! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Marv! >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark Ahlness >>>>>> mahlness@gmail.com >>>>>> Seattle, WA >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Tweeters mailing list >>>>>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>>>>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Tweeters mailing list >>>>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>>>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tweeters mailing list >>> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >>> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tweeters mailing list >> Tweeters@u.washington.edu >> http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters >> > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Sun May 30 00:52:47 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] =?utf-8?q?Potential_changes_to_North_America=E2=80=99s?= =?utf-8?q?_bird_checklist_in_2021_-_BirdWatching?= Message-ID: <5596F640-6D98-45C2-8FE1-20601226613C@gmail.com> Tweeters community, Another interesting article: https://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/news/science/potential-changes-north-americas-bird-checklist-2021/ Dan Reiff MI Sent from my iPhone From marvbreece at q.com Sun May 30 07:28:44 2021 From: marvbreece at q.com (Marv Breece) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King Co Phalaropes Message-ID: <1598049748.5564832.1622384924210.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com> Yesterday (5.29.21) there were 4 WILSON'S PHALAROPES & 3 RED-NECKED PHALAROPES at M Street, Auburn, King County. Other shorebirds were 1 SPOTTED SANDPIPER & 2 KILLDEER. At the dead end perched on a jersey barrier was a CALIFORNIA SCRUB-JAY. I saw and heard singing several LAZULI BUNTINGS. Nesting is probable. Recently sighted birds that I did NOT see at M Street yesterday were Bank Swallow, Blue-winged Teal or Greater Yellowlegs. Marv Breece Tukwila, WA marvbreece@q.com Pbase Images : https://www.pbase.com/marvbreece Flickr Videos : https://www.flickr.com/photos/138163614@N02/ Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHbkNzr4TaZ6ZBWfoJNvavw/featured -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pcoddin at gmail.com Sun May 30 07:37:36 2021 From: pcoddin at gmail.com (Pat) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Black necked stilts Nisqually Message-ID: There?s a pair of Black Necked Stilts in the flooded field at NWR this morning. Pat Coddington Fife -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lynnandstan at earthlink.net Sun May 30 12:00:22 2021 From: lynnandstan at earthlink.net (stan Kostka lynn Schmidt) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Purple Martins ? Message-ID: <024CF44D-3C97-43C8-A7B6-C7E3BD10EFB5@earthlink.net> Hi Tweets, Seems to me that this post and all the responses dovetail nicely into the recent discussion about Tweeters and eBird. In my experience, these two sites do not compete, but rather they complement each other, and both are invaluable. After a quick check it appears that every Purple Martin location reported in the responses posted to Tweeters were already listed on eBird, except for the 11th Street Bridge (also known in martin data as Hylebos waterway). I?ve been chasing martins around the Northwest for a long time. Years ago I had photo copies of pages of the Delorme Atlas on the wall of my office, and I would spend countless hours searching various literature, listserves, Audubon newsletters and field notes, WOS publications, etc. etc. , creating a map of martin occurrence throughout Western Washington. The process took hours and hours over months and months, but by the end of September each year I had a pretty good idea of where the martins were, and how they were doing. I was worn out, but satisfied. That was then. Now, all I do is log onto eBird, and Voila !, each year a map magically appears. And now for the magic of Tweeters: Since eBird does not provide contact info for observers, I am unable to follow up on reports that in my experience I judge to be questionable, or noteworthy, relative to date and or location. Here is an example: 13 April eBird report of martins entering a snag cavity at Buffalo Ponds in Snohomish County. That?s an early date to see martins entering a cavity, and it?s a freshwater site, so I?d very much like to follow up on that. Does anyone have contact info for Vaughn, Mark, and Jamie Holland ? And now that it?s been brought to my attention, The Hylebos Waterway has been historically a very reliable site for martins, with a nestbox colony there dating back to 1984. So, it?s noteworthy, at least to me, that there are no eBird reports from there. Are the pilings and nestboxes gone ? Thanks for any info anyone can provide. Thanks Tweets. Stan Kostka lynnandstan@earthlink.net Arlington On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 7:43 PM Hans-Joachim Feddern wrote: I have been unsuccessful so far to find any Purple Martins this spring. I have tried at 11th Street Bridge in NE Tacoma and at Ruston Way without luck. Has anybody seen any and at what location? Good Birding! Hans Feddern Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA thefedderns@gmail.com From marvbreece at q.com Sun May 30 12:02:40 2021 From: marvbreece at q.com (Marv Breece) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Fwd: King Co Phalaropes In-Reply-To: <1598049748.5564832.1622384924210.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com> References: <1598049748.5564832.1622384924210.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com> Message-ID: <1082937326.6158249.1622401360747.JavaMail.zimbra@q.com> Here are some videos of the phalaropes at M Street yesterday. For sighting details see below. [ https://flic.kr/ps/376fhN | https://flic.kr/ps/376fhN ] Marv Breece Tukwila, WA marvbreece@q.com From: "Marv Breece" To: "Tweeters" Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 7:28:44 AM Subject: King Co Phalaropes Yesterday (5.29.21) there were 4 WILSON'S PHALAROPES & 3 RED-NECKED PHALAROPES at M Street, Auburn, King County. Other shorebirds were 1 SPOTTED SANDPIPER & 2 KILLDEER. At the dead end perched on a jersey barrier was a CALIFORNIA SCRUB-JAY. I saw and heard singing several LAZULI BUNTINGS. Nesting is probable. Recently sighted birds that I did NOT see at M Street yesterday were Bank Swallow, Blue-winged Teal or Greater Yellowlegs. Marv Breece Tukwila, WA marvbreece@q.com Pbase Images : https://www.pbase.com/marvbreece Flickr Videos : https://www.flickr.com/photos/138163614@N02/ Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHbkNzr4TaZ6ZBWfoJNvavw/featured -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgrainger at birdsbydave.com Sun May 30 12:05:07 2021 From: dgrainger at birdsbydave.com (dgrainger@birdsbydave.com) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Spicy grub for unusual early visitors today Message-ID: <8d51ecca8514f2cd4de0b72ccddd8fc8@birdsbydave.com> Downey Woodpecker and a Flicker came at about 8:30 and 8:45 and dined on a chili laced cylinder of mixed seed called a Flaming Squirrel by the maker; bought them at Wild Birds Unlimited. Each generation of squirrel babies tries it ONCE. Got photos of both visitors. Then, one of the Nuthatch parents landed along with a baby, which did the "feed me flap" and was rewarded with multiple mouthfuls of the same stuff. We have placed a dried corn ear suspended in a spiral wire hanger on the other side of this "shepherd's Hook" to compensate those comedic squirrels. From hadleyj1725 at gmail.com Sun May 30 14:05:23 2021 From: hadleyj1725 at gmail.com (Jane Hadley) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] New maps added on WOS website (inclulding M Street Marsh) Message-ID: <33962c81-c999-2f17-1597-7d2e375344be@gmail.com> Hello Tweters - The maps page on the WOS website continues to grow. Several new maps have been added recently, including for the M Street Marsh. If you know of maps for other birding sites, please let me know. 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And he's molted into gorgeous adult plumage (im. male plumage last year). 30 May, 2021, Alan Grenon panmail AT mailfence.com -- Mailfence.com Private and secure email From bellasoc at isomedia.com Sun May 30 14:33:20 2021 From: bellasoc at isomedia.com (B P Bell) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] King Co Phalaropes - 30 May 21 Message-ID: <000001d7559b$69ab12f0$3d0138d0$@isomedia.com> Hi Tweets At 9 AM this morning we had Blue-winged Teal, Cinnamon Teal, Mallard, Gadwall, Great Blue Heron, Barn, Cliff, Tree Swallows. At the north end, by the barrier I had one Bank Swallow, Marsh Wren, Song Sparrow, Canada Goose with goslings. Brian H. Bell Woodinville WA mail to be llas oc atiso me dia dot com From: Tweeters [mailto:tweeters-bounces@mailman11.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Marv Breece Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 7:29 AM To: Tweeters Subject: [Tweeters] King Co Phalaropes Yesterday (5.29.21) there were 4 WILSON'S PHALAROPES & 3 RED-NECKED PHALAROPES at M Street, Auburn, King County. Other shorebirds were 1 SPOTTED SANDPIPER & 2 KILLDEER. At the dead end perched on a jersey barrier was a CALIFORNIA SCRUB-JAY. I saw and heard singing several LAZULI BUNTINGS. Nesting is probable. Recently sighted birds that I did NOT see at M Street yesterday were Bank Swallow, Blue-winged Teal or Greater Yellowlegs. Marv Breece Tukwila, WA marvbreece@q.com Pbase Images : https://www.pbase.com/marvbreece Flickr Videos : https://www.flickr.com/photos/138163614@N02/ Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHbkNzr4TaZ6ZBWfoJNvavw/featured -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Incredibly tame. > > Good birding, > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From marcus at rainierconnect.com Sun May 30 16:27:42 2021 From: marcus at rainierconnect.com (Marcus Roening) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] W Kingbird in Lakewood WA 5/29 Message-ID: <0E66757C-040E-420C-ADE6-DB8FB32E277D@rainierconnect.com> Hi Tweets, In response to Mary Metz of a W Kingbird in West Seattle: Heather and I had one at the Mountainview Cemetary in Lakewood on Saturday 5/29. It was flycatching from the tops of dead mullen stalks in an area that had been mostly cleared with a bulldozer a year ago. Not a place where they have been seen before. So, there was at least one bird moving north. Good birding, Marcus Roening Tacoma WA Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From thefedderns at gmail.com Sun May 30 23:56:55 2021 From: thefedderns at gmail.com (Hans-Joachim Feddern) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] M Street Scrub Jay and Phalaropes Message-ID: I also had a California Scrub Jay at M Street in Auburn last week. It was along the straight stretch of M Street right next to SR 167. When last seen it was flying west across the freeway towards the hillside. I also would like to thank Marv for alerting us of the phalaropes. I had great views of both species at about 4:30 PM on Saturday. Good birding! Hans -- *Hans Feddern* Twin Lakes/Federal Way, WA thefedderns@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcallisters4 at comcast.net Mon May 31 07:43:25 2021 From: mcallisters4 at comcast.net (mcallisters4@comcast.net) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Purple Martins ? In-Reply-To: <024CF44D-3C97-43C8-A7B6-C7E3BD10EFB5@earthlink.net> References: <024CF44D-3C97-43C8-A7B6-C7E3BD10EFB5@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <010301d7562b$520ee7d0$f62cb770$@comcast.net> I went out on a charter for bottom fish yesterday, out of Westport (the tourists are back and money must be flowing there now). At 6:00 am I could hear martins over the boat basin. I don't know if there are boxes there or perhaps they are nesting under the cones atop pilings. Kelly McAllister Olympia From mattxyz at earthlink.net Mon May 31 10:08:03 2021 From: mattxyz at earthlink.net (Matt Bartels) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] A few sightings in SE WA this weekend [Garfield Co mostly] Message-ID: <3AEDFD92-D2F6-43A5-A78A-19ECB505D6AE@earthlink.net> Hi all - I spent Fri-Sun over in the SE corner of the state, checking out various spots, mostly in Asotin & Garfield Counties - Garfield is always a fun county to bird in because digging up unexpected birds always takes a lot of luck and work. Friday 5/29 - After enjoying 38 White-faced Ibis at the Walla Walla Confluence, and then striking out on the 9-mile Canyon Black-throated Sparrow, but enjoying my year Ferruginous Hawk in Walla Walla Co., I headed almost directly to Garfield Co. At Central Ferry, an American Avocet [code 5, nearing code 4] was feeding along the shore edge. Sat 5/29 - I headed south from Clarkston, up to Field Springs then down to the Grand Ronde river valley. En route, I was happy to finally find Wilson?s Phalarope at Savage Pond [I think they are reported there annually and I always seem to miss them]. At Field Springs SP, I called in a Northern Pygmy Owl and a good mobbing flock around it. After the obligatory bit of getting lost, I worked my way west in t he Grand Ronde Valley to Grouse Flats in Garfield County. Just before getting into Garfield, I stopped at a meadow at the Oregon border and could hear several Sandhill Cranes bugling. I looked and looked, but never saw them - couldn?t be sure they were even in WA state, but intriguing to think there might be Sandhill Cranes down there. In Garfield County, about 1/2- 1 mile west on Kessler Mill Rd., I was happy to find a Great Gray Owl perched only 20 feet or so off the road. I?ve seen GGOW in the Grand Ronde area over on the Asotin portion, but this was my first encounter in the Garfield bit. Along FR 4039 [3 Forks trail area] , I spent a few hours just enjoying the loud collection of birds - nothing too extraordinary, but a good collection of Dusky & Hammond?s, Yellow-rumped, MacGillivray?s, OC & Townsend?s Warblers, Western Tanagers, and Downy & Hairy Woodpeckers and a pair of Williamson?s Sapsuckers. I?m still hoping one of these visits to refind the White-headed Woodpeckers reported from the area back in 2014. Sun 5/30 - After being happy to find Forster?s Terns at Swallows Park in Clarkston, I worked my way back west for the day. Back in Garfield County at Central Ferry, the Avocet was no longer present, but instead I enjoyed 2 Forster?s Terns , another Garfield code 5 bird. At Scootenay Reservoir in Franklin Co., I hiked up the bluff on the north to look over the nice mud flats at the north end - more Forster?s Terns were hanging out here as well, along with a Bonaparte?s Gull and 1-2 Franklin?s Gulls, several avocets & stilts. 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Add native plants to your garden instead - The San Diego Union-Tribune Message-ID: <500AD8EC-1462-44AE-B8C5-8E24A42A5E54@gmail.com> Or have both feeders and plants. Dan Reiff MI https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/lifestyle/home-and-garden/story/2021-05-29/put-away-your-bird-feeders-the-best-way-to-help-birds-is-by-building-habitat Sent from my iPhone From dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com Mon May 31 18:39:51 2021 From: dan.owl.reiff at gmail.com (Dan Reiff) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birds are going blind in the Washington region, and wildlife experts don't know why | Travel And Outdoors | fredericknewspost.com Message-ID: <2F338CCD-FD9C-45FF-845D-B936A6AE2C35@gmail.com> https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/lifestyle/travel_and_outdoors/birds-are-going-blind-in-the-washington-region-and-wildlife-experts-dont-know-why/article_3173c177-8f8b-5f1c-a478-cbe00bb4c8a8.html Sent from my iPhone From avnacrs4birds at outlook.com Mon May 31 18:58:27 2021 From: avnacrs4birds at outlook.com (Denis DeSilvis) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Lazuli Buntings in Roy Message-ID: Tweeters, After checking around the property today, it looks like three Lazuli Bunting pairs are again around the house here in Roy - just like last year. Two males are singing out back, and the third moves back and forth to the front yard from across the street (where there was a nest last year). The two males out back were duking it out last week, but it now appears one has set up down by the wetlands (like last year) and the third is singing closer to the house this year. Kinda fun to see them return - along with the half-dozen Evening Grosbeaks that have been around since late April. Pretty colorful! May all your birds be identified, Denis DeSilvis avnacrs four birds at outlook dot com Avian Acres ? Roy, WA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jill.freidberg at gmail.com Mon May 31 19:49:32 2021 From: jill.freidberg at gmail.com (Jill Freidberg) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Quit bird feeders. Add native plants to your garden instead - The San Diego Union-Tribune In-Reply-To: <500AD8EC-1462-44AE-B8C5-8E24A42A5E54@gmail.com> References: <500AD8EC-1462-44AE-B8C5-8E24A42A5E54@gmail.com> Message-ID: I addition to the plants listed here, I?ve seen the chickadees and scrub jays really enjoying the seeds from the dead lilac blooms. And the hummingbird moths (or something that looks a lot like it) go nuts over my valerian. The bushtits and chickadees help control the aphids on my roses. I also left standing a dead Elderberry that had gotten quite large. The downy has eviscerated it but keeps coming back. I haven?t seen any birds in my ceanothus, but the bees are in love with it. Thanks for the article! Jill > On May 31, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Dan Reiff wrote: > > Or have both feeders and plants. > Dan Reiff > MI > > https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/lifestyle/home-and-garden/story/2021-05-29/put-away-your-bird-feeders-the-best-way-to-help-birds-is-by-building-habitat > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters From makingardens at gmail.com Mon May 31 21:31:01 2021 From: makingardens at gmail.com (Nancy Tom) Date: Tue Dec 13 23:38:16 2022 Subject: [Tweeters] Birds are going blind in the Washington region, and wildlife experts don't know why | Travel And Outdoors | fredericknewspost.com In-Reply-To: <2F338CCD-FD9C-45FF-845D-B936A6AE2C35@gmail.com> References: <2F338CCD-FD9C-45FF-845D-B936A6AE2C35@gmail.com> Message-ID: This is fir the Washington DC region. Frederick is in Maryland. Nancy Tom Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Dan Reiff wrote: > > ? > https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/lifestyle/travel_and_outdoors/birds-are-going-blind-in-the-washington-region-and-wildlife-experts-dont-know-why/article_3173c177-8f8b-5f1c-a478-cbe00bb4c8a8.html > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Tweeters mailing list > Tweeters@u.washington.edu > http://mailman11.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/tweeters