[Tweeters] Fwd: Brewer's Sparrow at Rainy Pass

Robert O'Brien baro at pdx.edu
Thu Jun 21 10:48:03 PDT 2018


Several people informed me as below. They're right. I was (am?)
confused. I simply made a bad click on the nominate subspecies when I
wanted ALL the Brewers Sparrows including all subspecies which are indeed
correctly listed under the species (with no subspecies specified). That is,
all subspecies are listed twice. Once under that subspecies and again under
the species with subspecies not specified.
Thanks for the clarifications. Bob OBrien

PS Now, as for the hybrids, might they be listed 1.5 times? (Hee hee,
just kidding).

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mark Robinson <blobbybirdman at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Brewer's Sparrow at Rainy Pass
To: Robert O'Brien <baro at pdx.edu>


Hi Bob,

I’m fairly sure this IS how eBird has implemented it. To replicate what you
saw I had to select the timberline subspecies, the full species shows
everything as expected

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 21, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Robert O'Brien <baro at pdx.edu> wrote:

Well at least I sparked some responses (maybe?).

This is the second time I've fallen for this anomaly in eBird. When a
species has subspecies there are several listings in eBird. One for each
subspecies (hybrids as well)
and one for the 'species'. Now by my own reasoning, all the subspecies
should ALSO be listed among the species listing because that is exactly
what they are.
Thus when you select to map the 'species' you get all of them not just the
ones where the observer had failed to specify subspecies. Subspecies would
be included but are also listed separately. If this change was made I
wouldn't have screwed this up for the 2nd time. (Vaux's Swift was my first
screwup). I must be a slow learner. Hopefully eBird was make this change,
which seems wholly rational to me) so that I don't strike out with a 3rd
Screwup. Bob OBrien Portland

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Rick Taylor <taylorrl at outlook.com> wrote:


> When I pull up the map for Brewers Sparrow in eBird, there are thousands

> of reports.

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> Explore -> Species Maps -> type Brewer’s Sparrow in the species box in the

> upper left, ensure Date: is set to year around, all years.

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> Or

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> https://ebird.org/map/brespa?neg=true&env.minX=&env.minY=&en

> v.maxX=&env.maxY=&zh=false&gp=false&ev=Z&mr=1-12&bmo=1&emo=

> 12&yr=all&byr=1900&eyr=2018

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> Rick

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> *Rick Taylor*

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> Everett, WA

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> *From:* Tweeters <tweeters-bounces at mailman11.u.washington.edu> *On Behalf

> Of *Robert O'Brien

> *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 12:40 AM

> *To:* Dave Parent <dpdvm at whidbey.com>

> *Cc:* tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Tweeters] Brewer's Sparrow at Rainy Pass

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> I was interested in the answer to Dave's question and when none appeared

> (so far) I checked eBird

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> for Brewers Sparrow. Only 5 or so records (?) for WA state for all time;

> a few likely migrants on the west side

>

> and a few likely breeders on the east side. None for Timberline Sparrow

> nor any Brewer's at high elevation.

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> Bob OBrien Portland

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> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:46 AM, Dave Parent <dpdvm at whidbey.com> wrote:

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> Tweeters,

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> On the afternoon of Saturday, June 16, after a birding trip to the Methow

> we stopped at the Rainy Pass parking lot at the southbound Pacific Crest

> Trail access. Behind the restroom there is a tangle of slide alder. While

> pishing there, a very confiding Brewer's Sparrow popped up about ten feet

> away and gave a short version of its song before disappearing back into the

> alder thicket.

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> Are Timberline Sparrows, S.b.taverni, known to nest in the North Cascades

> or was this a possible migrant?

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> Dave Parent, Freeland WA, dpdvm at whidbey.com

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