[Tweeters] I quit

Nigel Ball nigelj.ball at gmail.com
Mon Sep 15 07:40:43 PDT 2014


Hi,
A few other perspectives:
1. Both communities would be poorer by your absence. Our loss.
2. Records evaluation is still in its infancy. Collateral damage occurs and
is painful/ shameful for the submitter. It would help if we moved,
officially and otherwise, to 'not sufficiently documented' rather than
'rejected'. In other words, "it probably was a Cassin's based on the
observer, but this is a species which can be hastily assumed, and based on
timing and/or location I'd feel more comfortable with more specific details
before adding the record to the books".
3. All birders I have ever birded with have made mistakes; in fact, some of
the best have made some (unacknowledged) howlers. Personally, I've been
grateful for a couple of 'rejections' on birds where I didn't document the
'obvious' because in the cold light of dawn I wondered whether I'd been
overenthusiastic.
4. How will you live without ebird???? And if you use its data, will you
really stop contributing?
5. (Sorry - I have to acknowledge the effort and skills of the recorders
with gratitude. In spite of instances like this. And would they have time
to communicate with everyone? And do we want a completely unvetted record
set?)
6. Please reconsider.

Nigel Ball
Seattle
nigelj.ball at gmail.com

PS I'm not a recorder.
On Sep 13, 2014 10:39 PM, "Pete Fahey" <peterfahey at comcast.net> wrote:


> Hi Folks:

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> Today, Officially I am resigning from both Tweeters and e-bird! In the

> past, I have reported birds, and on at least two occasions, they have been

> rejected by a group of individuals who have neither the courage or

> Intellectual honesty to pursue the truth. I reported a Cassin’s Auklet in

> the spring seen from the Fauntleroy Ferry Terminal, but it was never

> accepted by the “powers that be” in e-bird. I again reported it when

> those same “POWERS” asked for a Spring report for “American Birds.” It

> did not appear there either. I am not an expert as these folks purport to

> be, but I am not given to given to false reporting. I make mistakes;

> anyone who birds makes mistakes. But when I do report a bird, there is a

> very reasonable certainty that I am correct. I have been birding for forty

> years and have never lied to anyone, and am bewildered that no one ever

> even bother to call or e-mail to question me about my sighting. If e-bird

> is going to be worth anything to anybody, the reviewers at least ought to

> have the decency to question reporters to verify the legitimacy of the

> bird.

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> Pete Fahey

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> Snoqualmie, WA

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