[Tweeters] Re: Kitsap Lake Tufted Duck YES

Jason Hernandez jason.hernandez74 at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 11 20:56:06 PDT 2014

Doug Hudson: I did go to the point you described, but the duck was positioned so as not to be visible from there.

Amy: the "partial" tuft confuses me, given that the ring-necked duck has an unusually angled head which could be construed as a vestigial tuft if someone was hoping for one.  (Think of how an over-enthusiastic novice birder in the South can create an ivory-billed woodpecker out of a pileated.)  I was struggling to remember what, exactly, the head shape had looked like.  A fully-developed tuft would give me more confidence.

Ian: the bill clue makes sense.  The skeptical birder thought at one point that he saw a white ring at the base of the bill, which would have made it definitively a ring-necked duck, but he admitted that at such a distance, he could not be sure he saw it.  (Think of how an over-cautious experienced birder in the South can transform a genuine ivory-billed woodpecker into "just a pileated.")  Likewise, my own uncertainty as to the white flanks.

Thank you all

Jason Hernandez
jason.hernandez74 at yahoo.com

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:36 AM, amy schillinger <schillingera at hotmail.com> wrote:

Several of us on the WOS chase trip watched the duck for about 30 minutes yesterday, March 10th. When first observed, it was diving and feeding for quite a long time and if the duck was positioned just right before a dive we could see a piece of the 'tuft' fluff out just before it went under. Partial 'tuft' could also be seen several times as it preened above the water as well. Very black back and great side by side comparisons with the Scaup.
Amy Schillinger-Powell
Renton, WA
schillingera at hotmail.com

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:20:46 -0700
From: jason.hernandez74 at yahoo.com
To: tweeters at u.washington.edu
Subject: [Tweeters] Re: Kitsap Lake Tufted Duck YES

I saw it Sunday, too, thanks to some other birders with scopes.  However, one of those other birders was a bit skeptical; he was trying to make sure it really was a tufted, and not a ring-necked duck (he criticized what he called "zebra hunting," i.e. figuratively wondering whether the horse you hear clopping along outside might actually be a zebra).  It is true I did not see a tuft; but the flanks did appear pure white to me, not two-toned gray and white like a field-guide ring-necked.  Still, before I record the sighting definitively, I would like verification by other observers of definitive field marks one way or the other.

Jason Hernandez
Bremerton (why does it matter, since I already said where the sighting was?)

Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 14:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker at zipcon.net>
Subject: [Tweeters] Kitsap Lake Tufted Duck YES
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  I had the male Tufted Duck at Kitsap Lake around 11:30am today. It was on
the east side of lake as viewed from Kitsap Lake Park.


Ian Paulsen
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