Fw: Re: [Tweeters] Bad [human] behavior at Ridgefield NWR and some bea utif ul birds

retief at deweydrive.com retief at deweydrive.com
Mon Jan 27 16:32:05 PST 2014

Thanks for the link, Wilson and Kevin. However I have to agree with
Hal in wondering what the difference is vis-a-vis disturbing the

As I noted in my last reply to this thread, I plan to call for
clarification. I have now just gotten off the phone with the folks at
Ridgefield for clarification, so darned easy to call and ask.

There are 2 reasons. The first is safety, if it is illegal to do on
the roads outside the reserve, is it not OK within the reserve.
Technically this could extend to driving around with bean bags and
scopes on the window and seat belts unfastened.

The second is that the wildlife does not understand
lenses/scopes/binos, but they do understand human heads and torsos, so
yes, body parts out of the car will disturb them. This is also prime
migration time, sometime in May this is open to foot traffic.

This certainly clarifies it for me, hope it helps others.

One other thing that was passed on to me, regarding the numbers of
folks out this weekend, is that they are really trying to avoid
confrontations over people trying to provide enforcement, as this can
cause issues for their volunteers. I think we should keep this in
mind as well.

Bill Dewey
Marysville, Wa

Quoting Wilson Cady <gorgebirds at juno.com>:

> I was wrong about the moon/sun roof usage at the Ridgefield NWR.

> Kevin Lucas sent me this poster from Scott Carpenter that explains

> the rules very nicely. The rule is not for people's safety but

> rather to reduce disturbance to the wildlife that depend on this

> refuge for their survival. Wildlife should not have to get used to

> us, we should always remember that on our refuges, the needs of

> wildlife comes first. Wilson Cady

> Columbia River Gorge, WA


> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------

> From: Kevin Lucas <vikingcove at gmail.com>

> To: Wilson Cady <gorgebirds at juno.com>

> Cc: ucd880 at comcast.net, TWEETERS <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Bad [human] behavior at Ridgefield NWR and

> some beautif ul birds

> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:51:14 -0800



> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottcarpenterphotography/6942774502/


> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Wilson Cady <gorgebirds at juno.com> wrote:

> Photographing birds at the Ridgefield NWR from a vehicle with a

> sun/moon roof does not violate the rule on staying in your

> vehicle.��Wilson Cady

> Columbia River Gorge, WA


> ---------- Original Message ----------

> From: Hal Michael <ucd880 at comcast.net>

> To: A & S Hill <60stops2home at kalama.com>

> Cc: Tweeters <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Bad [human] behavior at Ridgefield NWR and

> some beautiful birds

> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:25:45 +0000 (UTC)


> Just for clarification.� How is opening up the sun/moon roof,

> standing, and taking pictures different from rolling down the window

> and sticking the camera/binos out the window?


> Hal Michael

> Olympia WA

> 360-459-4005 (H)

> 360-791-7702 (C)

> ucd880 at comcast.net

> From: "A & S Hill" <60stops2home at kalama.com>

> To: "Tweeters" <tweeters at u.washington.edu>

> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:46:38 PM

> Subject: [Tweeters] Bad [human] behavior at Ridgefield NWR and

> some��������beautiful

> birds


> Sunday (today), we took advantage of our last �free�

> day (before the house painters come) to try out our new spotting

> scope. Paradise Point State Park off Exit 16 I-5 S was our first

> stop, only because we�ve never been there. It was a short

> trip. I did get to see some Golden-Crowned Kinglets �up

> close� with the scope, though. Very nice.


> Next, we stopped in the City of Ridgefield and parked near the

> Public Works on Division Street. I was too busy marveling at the

> birds through the scope to take photos. We saw all the usual ducks,

> geese, herons, cranes and coots. There was such a cacophony of

> Red-winged Blackbirds going on that I felt the need to record a bit

> of their overlapping (and overwhelming) songs. It was just heavenly.


> As we walked along the path back toward the car, a lone European

> Starling high up on a wire decided to mark the occasion by adding a

> wet spot to the tripod I had slung over my shoulder. Luckily the

> splash only hit my fingers and not my face or the new scope. Ha!


> The final stop was the auto tour of the River S Unit at Ridgefield

> NWR. The beautiful weather brought out many visitors, three of whom

> could not seem to understand the concept of Staying in Their

> Vehicles. Pictures of the offenders � with license plates

> � can be seen here: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjRivuxo


> My husband was lucky enough to see an American Bittern up close,

> among other gorgeous birds. A Great Egret had blood all over its

> beak from a recent kill. Here�s a link to his flickr

> photostream: http://flic.kr/ps/zMtT9


> I got a few �lucky shots� myself. Hooded Mergansers

> and the Bald Eagle pair were highlights for us. Some are posted on

> my flickr photostream: http://flic.kr/p/jwUJUH� This link is

> for the Merganser photo.


> It was a perfect way to end our weekend!



> Amy Hill

> Kalama, Washington

> 628 feet up in Cowlitz County

> 60stops 2 home at kalama dot com

> Artlessfun at yahoo dot com



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Bill Dewey
Marysville, WA

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