[Tweeters] Current Issue of Audubon Magazine-Photoghahy awards and Disqualification Discusion

Hal Michael ucd880 at comcast.net
Sat Jan 25 18:55:47 PST 2014

Took a birding tour with friend who is a professional photographer .  We both photographed the same deer from the same place at the same instant.  His was a wonderful picture , mine not bad.  Equipment had something to do with it, the actual set up of shutter, aperture, ISO were very important, and then editing.  It all adds up.  As I have learned about set up i have  gotten significantly better shots.  Same with equipment upgrade.


But, the real art, I think, comes from how one edits; that is where the art comes in.

Hal Michael
Olympia WA
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From: "ELIZABETH THOMPSON" < calliopehb @comcast.net>
To: "ck park" < travelgirl . fics @ gmail .com>
Cc: "tweeters at u. washington . edu " <Tweeters at u. washington . edu >
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:16:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Current Issue of Audubon Magazine-Photoghahy awards        and Disqualification Discusion

Oh how I debate this with myself. I love photographing birds. I have had some really nice shots and some really bad ones.  Mostly focus. I do crop my pics sometimes but that is all i have ever done. I recall last summer taking photos with a similar camera and lens as some other birder/photographers and my pics looked not so nice as theirs. We were at a birding outing at the same time.
I can only assume a couple things. Better at stabilization, better camera equipment or better at photoshopping .
More than likely the first two options.

Either way, I still take pictures of birds and every once in a while, I get a nice shot.
Happily birding,
Beth Thompson
Arlington, WA

On Jan 25, 2014, at 9:04 AM, ck park < travelgirl . fics @ gmail .com > wrote:

I suppose it depends on your definition of "photograph" versus "digital image".

mine definition?  if i clone away dust bunnies, crop, or maybe apply a bit of sharpness, to me it's still a photograph.  the image is as i saw it.
if, however, i alter the shape(s) of something, alter colours (obvious saturation, HDR , etc) and/or clone away distracting poles, buildings, trees, etc, what you would see is no longer as i saw it, and therefore, while it may be beautiful, interesting, etc, it is a digital image, an interpretation that is no longer a photograph.

this definition is mine, and while shared by many, is not a universal definition.  as well, some folks today believe "photograph" == "digital image", that there may be no inherent difference between the two.

your mileage may vary.

00 caren
http :// www . ParkGallery .org
george davis creek, north fork

On 25 January 2014 03:04, < notcalm @comcast.net > wrote:


Hello Fellow Tweeters,

There is an interesting discussion regarding alteration of bird photographs and rules for the Annual Photo Contest in the current issue (January, 2014) of Audubon magazine. A great image was disqualified. I am interested in what Tweeter's community members think. I think it is an interesting question.

Many of our best single images of birds and humans are now modified and enhanced to varying degrees. This a now a routine practice for images of female models in fashion magazines. The controversies in many fields, including bird photography include: when should it be disclosed; at what level of change, including enhancement; and what image enhancements should be considered in photo contests. The Audubon Editor asks for feedback.

Dan Reiff
Mercer Island
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